Schoolgirl 'stabbed for love of AC/DC'

[T_i_B]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/08/30/ustab.xml

A teenager who was stabbed in the eye during her school lunch break said a "gang mentality" singled out pupils for their music and fashion tastes.

The 15-year-old, who cannot be named for legal reasons, narrowly escaped losing her sight in the attack last November. She had been the victim of a string of attacks, threats and had even received prank calls at home because she is what is known as "a metaler", Guildford Crown Court heard today.

Mimicking and threatening the girl while queuing to get into the canteen, the three defendants, all pupils at the same school, asked around for a pair of scissors with which they said they would cut off their victim's long hair, the court has heard.

The court was told they later approached her as she chatted with friends outside the school science block and one of the three girls launched the attack, stabbing her a number of times with the sharp scissor blades.

[Barrett808]

1. Mods and Rockers, anyone?

"I'm the punk in the gutter."

[Jed Dilligan]

2. Any idea what the stabbers listened to? It doesn't say.

[T_i_B]

5. The suspicion I get from reading the article

(and I must reiterate that it is only a suspicion and may well be proved wrong) is that this was done by "Chav's". Chavs do have a reputation, not only for anti-social behavior but also for disliking rock music, which they consider to be the bastion of "grebo's" (another UK teenage clique, needless to say the two groups mutually loathe each other).

Here is a well known UK website that exists to mock Chav's. I must admit that this whole thing does get taken too far and I must also point out that this is something that does get discussed in the UK forum, as one theory about chav-bashing is that it is motivated by class snobbery, a theory that I have never been totally convinced by myself as we had pretty much the same cliques in my school days, only with different names.

http://www.chavscum.co.uk/

PS, if you want to accuse me of base prejudice about my suspicion, I won't be offended. Indeed I would love nothing more then for my suspicion to be proved completely wrong and to look like a right old eejit for ever thinking such things in the first place. The courts are looking into this case and it is up to them to work out if the defendants are guilty or not and base prejudices about social cliques should not be influencing their decision.

[Barrett808]

7. I'm tellin' ya: Mods and Rockers redux.

Soon we'll be seeing music-based gang fights again.

[dionysus]

8. ah so the chavs are the US equivilant of wanna-be

gangsta rap fans...

[T_i_B]

9. Pretty much

With a love of house/trance/garage/drum & bass thrown in.

"Grebo's" are pretty much just people who listen to rock music and go skateboarding. Doesn't sound like much but teenagers do make such a big fuss over such little things. And it was little different when I was at school.

[Greeby]

12. No Kidding

Where do you think my DU nickname comes from?

I've had to put with these scumbags for years now. If they ever cross the line into violence, they best come in mob-handed or else I'll put the brainless bastards in casualty :grr:

[bennywhale]

13. I would pick you up opn that actually

Chavs (or Charvas, as they've been called up here for decades) are essentially classed, not by themselves, but by people abusing them and are identified by others, as being uncouth, rowdy, workijng class and wearing cheap imitation designer goods.

It is complete class snobbery and quite despicable to start naming working class kids as scum that should be exterminated that many on that lovely site you pointed us to do.

A lazy labelling of a whole group of people is, as you know dangerous. To call all young black men drug dealers is a dangerous and disgusting stereotype that is not acceptable among liberals and the Left, yet labelling young white working class kids as chavs (and the implied 'scum') is acceptable which i find disgusting.

What you should do is label someone who stabs a girl in the eye several times with scissors as violent scum, but to then say they are a chav, hence white working class scum is a smear, i'm sure you'll recognise, too far.

Violent nasty bastards come from all walks of life.

i thought we'd had this debate years ago

[T_i_B]

14. Well I'm not going to complain about being picked up on that

Even though the basis of my suspicion is Chav's taste's in music, which is one of the many factors that undermine the left wing spin on the matter. Like I said, it's only a suspicion, it's not something that I can prove and I will be only too happy to be proved utterly wrong on that. And yes, I am well aware that my suspicion has some very unhealthy pitfalls. You only have visit chavscum.co.uk to work that one out very quickly. Maybe if that site didn't talk about "Britain's peasant underclass that are taking over our towns and cities" within the first paragraph the left would not be making accusations of classism? Still I suppose it's probably asking too much to expect a site like that to grow up.

[marmar]

3. Good grief...

:wtf: Has the whole world gone mad? :crazy:

[FormerDem06]

4. This is what happens....

When children are raised systems that largely resemble prisons, with no parents around to watch them (note this is not a "mom should stay home" rant, just saying that 18 years of being herded can teach a person some pretty warped views on social interaction and fuel this "need" to fit in even more than normal).


Prisons -- large masses with little oversight forming into gangs for protection, in structured activities, allowed to roam the "yard" free for an hour or two per day.

Day-Care (corporate) -- large masses with little oversight, in structured activities who go outside and roam the playground for an hour or two per day.
School -- large masses with little to no oversight forming into cliques for protection, in structured activities. who go outside and roam the halls between classes for an hour or two every day.

If parents were doing their job, then this child would not be using scissors to stab another (unless she is mentally unstable).

[Der Blaue Engel]

6. So they should ban music from the UK, based on the other LBN

article.

[KamaAina]

10. Dirty deeds -- done dirt cheap!

Dirty deeds and they're done dirt cheap... :spank:

[sweetheart]

11. Hells bells

I smoke this lovely for my mate in Marietta Georgia, 'bom shiva'.
I spent many a long southern summer evening swatting mosquitos, stoned off my gazungas listening
to back in black over and over and over, playing chess with my good friend.

He grew some good grass in that georgia climate, and rock and roll and georgia really belong together,
too bad about the christian right wing assholes... but perhaps they're part the frustration that
gets rock and roll to be so bluesy, the sad fact of a culture of racist pricks that hate
back in black, because black is evil, dark skinned, intense rock, something they dont' understand,
a sense of their oblivion cast in to an icon of our modern civilization, or death imploded in to
a door knob in their life.

Or maybe they just din't like aussies.... well. but nevertheless, when people say "Georgia" to me,
i hear the bells in back in black, the guitar sounds rise from every tree, and the forest
says ROCK ME. Too bad about the repukes, really... well, sorta historic, goes back too many hundreds
years those repukes... too... bad.. nothing can be done... back in black.

The only violence i can recall during that period of AC/DC/Atlanta was a bishop check, and some
friends sharing some good weed on the porch in a way that is wholly beautiful and ameircan, in my
heart of hearts, getting stoned and playing chess in georgia is the entire south, the love i feel
for the american soul, and chess we played for weeks, surrounded by zio-christians and the war
machine that was making stealth-aircraft at that martin marietta plant in that thar marietta, but
no matter, it did not affect those bells oor those guitars that have been playing this whole time.

:headbang: Ac/Dc :headbang:

and there you see it, the trouble that 2 urban nobodies can get up to in the suburbs if
they are left unenslaved with music, chess, love and good weed.