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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 03:33 AM Original message |
Backroom Battles (Mother Jones - Paul Hackett) |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 06:57 AM Response to Original message |
1. A dynamite reporter could find if the gop was behind the "war photos"smear |
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ohio2nd (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 09:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Agreed |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 12:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I was very surprised to see the story at all |
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ohio2nd (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 01:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Yes |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 01:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Hogwash. |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 03:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Now your response was so predictable. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 06:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Leaping to conclusions again? |
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rexcat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 08:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Oh please OzarkDem! |
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rexcat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 08:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Better watch it liberalnurse... |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 10:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. I believe my posting behavior is definitely |
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rexcat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 10:49 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Nicely put... |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
7. this story makes me sick. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
8. When did you start hearing this, VolcanoJen? |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 11:46 AM Response to Reply #8 |
45. Why doesn't Volcano Jen say when she heard these things?Why?Why? |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 04:57 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Umm . . . she's currently out of town, but she'll be back. nt |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 05:18 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Right.Riiiiight. |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 05:21 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. I forgot, WHERE in Ohio do you live? nt |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 06:15 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Where do you live? |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Just outside Dayton, south of town, near the Dayton Mall. Coffee? |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 10:37 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Kuksea....May I join you two for coffee? |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-19-06 09:06 AM Response to Reply #64 |
71. Certainly, but we may have to drive to Missouri to meet Ozark. nt |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 08:09 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. I forgot, WHERE in Ohio do you live? nt |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 11:06 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. In the 13th District, of course |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-19-06 11:02 AM Response to Reply #65 |
73. Which state? nt |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 01:24 AM Response to Reply #65 |
88. What city? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 01:45 AM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Mine's in my profile. I'm in Westlake...and I haven't be stalked yet... |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 01:54 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. I've had my photo (wearing a Kerry hat) on the front page |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 02:02 AM Response to Reply #92 |
94. That must be it...we're just not stalker-worthy. |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 02:20 AM Response to Reply #90 |
96. Funny. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 02:28 AM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Not the Gungeon...the dungeon (the 9/11 Forum). |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 02:42 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Ohhhhhhhhhh |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 02:47 AM Response to Reply #98 |
99. They still call it that...and they call the 9/11 Forum here "The Dungeon". |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 09:32 AM Response to Reply #54 |
107. Only paid moles have |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-19-06 08:48 AM Response to Reply #53 |
69. I see. the old "start a thread and fled" ruse |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
9. This is the first I have heard of it.... |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 06:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Agree, I haven't heard anything on the ground in Ohio |
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ohio2nd (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 03:18 AM Response to Reply #13 |
26. Actually |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 08:11 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. It reached the leadership in Washington |
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ohio2nd (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 09:05 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Other way around |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 11:51 AM Response to Reply #30 |
47. Now ohio2nd says he heard it too.From a big Ohio Dem,too.This is truly |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 07:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
62. Tell me again: where in OHIO do you live, Algorem? nt |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 11:59 AM Response to Reply #30 |
49. This is what I meant, ohio2nd |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-19-06 10:26 PM Response to Reply #26 |
83. For the record... |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 04:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
52. Hogwash. You knew. nt |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 06:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
56. See Post 31 -- "Cleveland Plain Dealer" knew and so did you. |
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Punkingal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 10:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
35. It says in the article... |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 11:13 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. & somehow Dave Lane's account never made it into the press until Goodman's |
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Punkingal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 11:16 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Explain it to me like I'm a 5-year-old... |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 11:28 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Nobody said anybody in DU ohio made anything up |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 07:51 PM Response to Reply #40 |
60. See OH2nd's post #26; the bloggers knew. nt |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 11:33 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. See post #31-- it was in the Pee Dee for heavens' sake. nt |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 11:39 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. PD was quoting MJ who did not print this until now |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 11:47 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Nope. Read it again and pay attention to "since then". |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 11:58 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I see. PD's Elizabeth Auster is saying she sat on the story |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 06:17 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. and if it was damaging to a Dem |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 07:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
61. How long have you known Jen, Punkingal? |
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Punkingal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-19-06 05:25 AM Response to Reply #61 |
67. I knew Jen well when we were mods together.... |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-19-06 09:00 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. OK, that's perfectly understandable. |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 01:17 AM Response to Reply #37 |
87. It obviously went off like a bomb when Ed Schultz dropped it. |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 04:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
50. Hogwash! You knew. nt |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
10. That just pisses me off even more |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
11. If Hackett really said this stuff |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-19-06 08:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
74. Who says they're "false and unsubstantiated"? |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
14. all of a sudden Volcano Jen says she' heard these smears,too.that is truly |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 08:40 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Just for sniks.... I called three other guys in three other |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 08:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Deleted message |
ohio2nd (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 09:12 AM Response to Reply #15 |
31. Clues |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 09:57 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. So, all these "insiders" who post in the Ohio forum |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 10:12 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Kick ! nt |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 04:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
51. More hogwash. You all knew. nt |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 09:29 AM Response to Reply #15 |
106. Who did you call??????????? |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 01:21 PM Response to Reply #106 |
112. LOL! nt |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 08:53 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Rumors have it.... |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 08:41 AM Response to Reply #18 |
29. You're correct, LN -- they knew it all along. nt |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
21. Blackballing a fellow Dem from donors is about as low as it gets. |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 11:17 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Mainly cause Hackett dropped out..... |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 11:25 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Was that before or after he was financially black balled? /nt |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-17-06 11:55 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Doesn't matter.... |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 07:50 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I'd say he was forced out. |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 09:54 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. And I would agree. So would he. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 10:15 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. this is the only topic that you have posted about in the last two weeks |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 11:21 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Still busy white washing through character assasination I see. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 11:40 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. character assasination ... lol |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-18-06 11:32 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. So, what's wrong with that? We all work together, right? nt |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-19-06 08:11 PM Response to Reply #36 |
75. Why thank you, hall monitor... |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-19-06 08:32 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Don't call me names |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-19-06 09:04 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. I'm sorry. You're not a "hall monitor", you're just acting like one. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-19-06 09:23 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. one-act player |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 01:39 AM Response to Reply #79 |
89. Maybe it's an issue he feels strongly about. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 07:27 AM Response to Reply #89 |
101. half facts and heavy innuendo... |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 09:23 AM Response to Reply #76 |
105. What's the matter?????????????? |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-19-06 08:34 PM Response to Reply #36 |
77. damn very interesting fact in light of...never mind. |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 12:34 AM Response to Reply #36 |
85. C'mon. |
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oustudent101 (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-19-06 01:36 AM Response to Reply #27 |
66. If... |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-19-06 08:44 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. My hunch is that nothing catastrophic came up in the last few days |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-19-06 10:07 AM Response to Reply #68 |
72. I agree |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-19-06 09:36 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. Agree |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-19-06 09:56 PM Response to Reply #66 |
81. OK, now that is really, really rich. |
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oustudent101 (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 12:31 AM Response to Reply #81 |
84. I'm not a young |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 12:53 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. I never implied that you were young. |
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oustudent101 (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 11:18 AM Response to Reply #86 |
109. If you're |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 01:15 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. "if you're a democrat?" That's VolcanoJen you're accusing, |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #109 |
115. Paul Hackett didn't release the $5,000 Oppo package. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 01:48 AM Response to Reply #81 |
91. Civility, Jen....civility... |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 01:56 AM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Hey, those who would rewrite history... |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 02:03 AM Response to Reply #93 |
95. I was joking. I think the fire is appropriate. |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 08:09 AM Response to Reply #23 |
103. No.....you have the cart before the horse.... |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 11:27 AM Response to Reply #103 |
110. Will do. |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 02:12 PM Response to Reply #110 |
117. And mine, too AOD. A write-in sounds good for the primary. nt |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 01:39 PM Response to Reply #103 |
114. Ya know, that's not a bad idea. |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-19-06 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
82. Interesting. |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 07:38 AM Response to Reply #82 |
102. aren't personal attacks and accusations against the rules?would really |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 08:13 AM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Wha's the matter, Algorem, feeling guilty? nt |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 09:56 AM Response to Reply #104 |
108. Please tell me exactly why you would think I'd be feeling guilty? |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
100. smears & ears |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 01:35 PM Response to Reply #100 |
113. Where did Auster write that? |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 02:14 PM Response to Reply #113 |
118. yes, you are right |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 02:17 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. Read OH2's posts for background on why it never came out. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 02:28 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. & that well connected blogger you cite is going to lay in the weeds |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 02:33 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. Deleted... Boreal's right. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 02:40 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. spread disinformation |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 02:50 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. Fixed. I apologize. n/t |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 02:52 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. When do we kiss and make up? We really do need each other. |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 02:11 PM Response to Reply #100 |
116. Linky, please. nt |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-20-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #100 |
125. What, no linky? n/t |
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