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jollyreaper2112 Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:17 PM
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Cops: Couple ordered hit on grandkids
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/06/02/grandparents.hit.ap/index.html


TAVARES, Florida (AP) -- A couple tried to hire a hit man to kill their three grandchildren and daughter-in-law to stop them from testifying against their son in his rape trial, authorities said.

The couple, ages 60 and 59, were charged with four counts each of criminal conspiracy to commit murder. They were being held without bond.

Police said the pair initially offered $100 to an undercover sheriff's deputy to kill their son's wife, their 10-year-old granddaughter, two step-grandchildren, ages 14 and 16, and the family dog.


?!?! $100 for quadruple homicide? I know illegals have been driving down wages in most fields but are hitmen hurting that bad, too? And yeah, what an f'd up story.

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:19 PM
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1. Their son is only worth $100. How sad for them.
That is truly fucked up - but maybe they'll all have cells next to each other.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:34 PM
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6. I think it was the daughter in law AND the kids AND the dog
Edited on Fri Jun-02-06 05:35 PM by Cronus Protagonist
That's about what, $25.00 each with the dog thrown in?

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:38 PM
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9. Yes, of course, but I meant they are only willing to pay $100
to save their son.

"We want these four people dead to protect our son, but we're only willing to pay $100 for it. If you won't do it for $100, then fuck 'em, he can go to jail."
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NJ_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:22 PM
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2. I just want to know... Why is it that most times...


... these people make their offers to "off" a "loved one" to undercover deputies?
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:27 PM
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3. usually, not knowing any hit men themselves, they ask the sleaziest
person they know.. and that person informs the police, who set up a sting.
i really think hits would be a lot more common if people knew where to go for one.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:29 PM
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4. A lot of sleazy people draw the line at murder, I think
The people looking for the service go to some bum, some low life, and make the offer. He figures, what the hell, turn 'em in, maybe I will get a reward, or that pending case I have might get dismissed if I give a little sumpin sumpin to the police. So, he tells them he's no good for the job, but he KNOWS a pal who does this sort of thing regularly and might be able to hook them up. Then he calls the cops, tells 'em what's up, and voila! Caught on tape!
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jollyreaper2112 Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:38 PM
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8. hmmm..makes sense
Because cops and feds tend to be rotten at fieldwork but these sorts of cases always seem to fall into their laps. A sting like this makes sense. Because otherwise you'd have to imagine they have a bunch of undercover cops sitting around seedy bars looking dangerous just waiting for Joe Businessman to drop by looking for a likely killer. The usual cases I read about locally are businessmen looking to off a partner or a husband looking to get rid of a wife. Of course, the Sun Cruz Abramhoff killing was also relatively local.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 06:11 PM
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11. These are the ones we find out about. There may be many others.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:31 PM
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5. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree
Betcha $20 the old grandad molested his own child long before his son molested his own children.

Call it a hunch.

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:37 PM
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7. "But it's not rape, officer, it's bible-based family values tradition!"
You are more than likely correct - the parents are probably more worried that the truth of their abuse will come out in the trial when the son talks about the effect of his dad's anal rape on his own sexual and emotional dysfunctions. Or maybe Mom's anal probing with the curling iron or something, or perhaps abuse from both parents.

Those parents have to be more worried about themselves coming out looking rotten than they are worried about their son.
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:50 PM
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10. I don't think of it as illegal aliens driving down wages, but corporations
...and businesses that want to make windfall profits from the most disadvantaged workers.

If our laws said that you had to pay everyone minimum wage, and offer some form of group health insurance (for small companies the risk could be spread over thousands of workers in a minimal group plan) and any employer that didn't do so would be prosecuted and fined a profit-removing penalty, you'd see a different situation.

Couple that with putting the documentation burden on the employer (ID + $20 background check) I believe we'd have a 180 degree change in the illegal immigrant dynamic.

But that's just me.
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