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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 06:45 PM
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Jacob Hacker on a public option

Public Plan Founder Jacob Hacker Responds To Ross’ Open Up Medicare Compromise

Early last week, Rep. Mike Ross (D-AR) — who led a group of seven centrist Blue Dogs who objected to a public option that reimbursed providers based on Medicare rates — floated a proposal to replace the public option with a proposal that would . Medicare would reimburse the newly enrolled population “at a reimbursement rate much greater than current Medicare rates.”

On Friday, the Wonk Room sat down with public option godfather Jack Hacker and asked him to respond to Ross’ proposal. “Mike Ross is saying that the better alternative to having a new public health insurance plan that’s distinct from Medicare and competes on a level playing field, is actually to just open up Medicare on some new basis to people younger than 65. It’s a pretty remarkable development”:

What I would say is, I’ll take that and raise you. Okay, great! Let’s open up Medicare. If you think that’s a good idea, why don’t we open up Medicare more generally, in the sense that we use the basic Medicare model. And the Medicare model is build on the idea that people who are covered by Medicare have the ability to go to all the providers who contract with Medicare and be assured that in a transparent process that those providers will agree to be paid the rates that Medicare pays….What Ross is really saying, to my mind, is that Medicare is a good model. And the essential part of the Medicare model is that it contracts directly with providers, who agree to accept rates that are based on very careful thinking about what’s the proper amount to pay for different kinds of services.

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During the interview, Hacker rejected Ross’ contention that hospitals would close if they were reimbursed at Medicare rates, pointing to research which found that Medicare reimbursement rates lead to greater efficiencies.

Hacker also predicted that seniors would oppose opening the program to younger Americans and explained that Medicare was not designed “to provide health security to a younger than 65 population.” “There are a lot of holes in the Medicare program that should be fixed but which aren’t going to be fixed immediately. One of the important reasons to have a separate insurance plan is to make sure you’re providing the kind of good coverage that you know younger Americans need,” Hacker said.

“Ultimately though, we should understand the public health insurance plan idea, and Medicare as being very much interrelated. That over time, we should see this public health insurance plan and Medicare as a way of improving the cost effectiveness and the quality of care delivered to both younger Americans and to those over 65.”



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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 07:22 PM
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1. Thanks, PS.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 09:39 PM
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2. Interesting
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 09:53 PM
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3. Very informative. K+R nt.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 11:45 AM
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4. He offers another insightful perspective. n/t
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 12:01 PM
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5. That's a terrific way to push medicare into direct competition with private ins.
Congrats.

"Medicare would then compete with private insurers across the age spectrum. It would be open to those who don't have insurance through their employers, the same people who would be covered by the public option already under discussion."

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/63281-leading-blue-dog-suggests-opening-medicare-to-all


That should end well. :sarcasm:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 12:07 PM
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6. Wow, you sure don't have a lot of faith in Medicare
Where have you been? Medicare outperforms private insurance, especially when it comes to cost.



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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 12:21 PM
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7. And how long will that last?
We have a government purchase by ins. companies. They make the rule they write the laws as is more than evident from this whole health care/insurance/corporate welfare fiasco.

So let's just put the sickest uninsured people on medicare and force it to compete with unregulated private ins. Not only that, the brilliant idea is one of a repub in dems clothing- a dlc'r.

I have no faith in our elected representatives. So please when a repub with a d next to their name suggests anything having to do with medicare just say no. Don't ruin the one decent program we have. Unless it means expanding medicare for everyone, subsidizing it and requiring private insurers to offer basic plans at the same price from the get go, keep your hands off of it.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 02:48 PM
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8. Stop making up stuff just to predict doom n/t
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 03:13 PM
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9. Stop cheerleading for something that will benefit only Big Business and corrupt politicians. nt
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 03:34 PM
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10. Yeah, the tens of millions of uninsured, the unions, Howard Dean, Jacob Hacker, Anthony Weiner
are all corporate sellouts for supporing a public option.

Idiocy.

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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 04:08 PM
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11. uh..... straw man much?..... (purely rhetorical)
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 04:10 PM
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12. Straw man? No, it was a direct question based on your characterization of a public option. n/t
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 04:16 PM
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13. wow, so you are OPENLY LYING now. ok, whatever.

i'm not interested in continuing this dialogue.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 04:18 PM
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14. Lying? You do realize that your previous two comments are still visible, don't you?
"Stop cheerleading for something that will benefit only Big Business and corrupt politicians."

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