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saracat
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:12 PM Original message |
Fabulous speech but he still threw us under the bus. Especially women |
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stray cat
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
1. I certainly don't feel thrown under a bus - abortion is legal and covered by many insurance plans |
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avaistheone1
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Except for poor folks who will have the public opton/co-op/exchange. |
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Irreverend IX
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:28 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. Abortion is one of the cheaper medical procedures. |
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avaistheone1
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Wed Sep-09-09 11:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
44. That depends on what type of procedure is used for the abortion, a woman's medical history, and |
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Irreverend IX
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Thu Sep-10-09 03:13 AM Response to Reply #44 |
68. I know raising $400 can look about as feasible as climbing Mt. Everest if you're working poor. |
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LynneSin
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Thu Sep-10-09 08:32 AM Response to Reply #68 |
83. Which is what Planned Parenthood is for |
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saracat
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Fri Sep-11-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #83 |
120. What about the many places where there is no Planned parenthood? |
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ProSense
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Wed Sep-09-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
31. No, because the public option is funded by premiums. n/t |
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karynnj
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Wed Sep-09-09 11:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
52. Easy solution is non profits that could raise money to |
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barbiegeek
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Thu Sep-10-09 05:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
104. Why need abortion if BIRTH CONTROL IS COVERED |
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dflprincess
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Thu Sep-10-09 09:02 PM Response to Reply #104 |
109. Because sometimes birth control fails even when its used correctly |
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WinkyDink
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Fri Sep-11-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #104 |
122. You don't get out much, do you? |
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robo50
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. Yeah, no one uninsured person who happens to be female will be covered |
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WinkyDink
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Fri Sep-11-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
121. So what is Obama's real point, then? Are abortions or are they not covered by the public plan? |
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sabbat hunter
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. I have no problem |
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avaistheone1
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Medical litigation costs is a red herring. They only come out to 1% of medical costs. |
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karynnj
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Wed Sep-09-09 11:41 PM Response to Reply #9 |
56. True - but the idea of having a process that fairly weeds out |
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kath
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Wed Sep-09-09 11:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
60. Ding, ding, ding. A TOTAL red herring. |
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LooseWilly
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Wed Sep-09-09 10:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
39. In this country litigation is the only viable regulation. Especially in the wake of W. |
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sabbat hunter
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Thu Sep-10-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
99. we have been |
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PVnRT
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Thu Sep-10-09 06:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
72. Please define "frivolous lawsuit" |
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WinkyDink
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Fri Sep-11-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
124. "Frivolous lawsuits" usually do not make it to the jury stage. And the phrase itself is a Right-wing |
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alcibiades_mystery
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
3. He said federal tax dollars won't pay for abortions |
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Teaser
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. stop asking people to think |
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BlooInBloo
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
26. Yep. This *is* America, after all. |
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. OMG, that makes way too much sense! |
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OwnedByFerrets
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Thu Sep-10-09 08:31 AM Response to Reply #3 |
82. So, the asshole repugs are NOT lying when they insist |
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alcibiades_mystery
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Thu Sep-10-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #82 |
95. The question is whether tax dollars will fund them |
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sandnsea
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
4. Abortion will remain exactly as it is now. n/t |
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babylonsister
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
5. What a surprise to see you here criticizing the President. Not. nt |
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dionysus
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Thu Sep-10-09 08:19 AM Response to Reply #5 |
78. the backhanded compliment at the end is supposed to ibalance it out... |
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paulk
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Thu Sep-10-09 08:57 AM Response to Reply #5 |
90. why don't you address the argument? |
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Aramchek
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Thu Sep-10-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #90 |
108. she has no argument. this is an empty OP |
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paulk
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Thu Sep-10-09 11:16 PM Response to Reply #108 |
114. wow, that's deep |
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tbyg52
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Fri Sep-11-09 05:28 PM Response to Reply #90 |
126. Not that I have noticed. nt |
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geek tragedy
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Thu Sep-10-09 09:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
110. Pretty Understandably Miserably Angry. |
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bigwillq
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
6. Tone and delievery was excellent. |
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jefferson_dem
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
7. Hey! Welcome back! |
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Political Tiger
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
8. BULL! n/t |
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4lbs
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
11. Get Congress to repeal the Hyde Amendment and we can have federal tax dollars pay for abortion. |
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Thrill
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
12. No he didn't. He was trying to correct the things who have people against HCR |
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saracat
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
28. And guess what? I don't care about how "upset" they are! |
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karynnj
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Wed Sep-09-09 11:43 PM Response to Reply #28 |
58. Do you care if it passes? |
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saracat
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Thu Sep-10-09 01:25 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Actually , if it ends up without a Public option, I don't care because it |
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karynnj
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Thu Sep-10-09 08:08 AM Response to Reply #61 |
76. That means you prefer the status quo, where: |
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saracat
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Thu Sep-10-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #76 |
96. Really? And exactly how would we enforce the things you mention without a Public Option? |
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ChimpersMcSmirkers
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Thu Sep-10-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #76 |
107. The non-negotiable crowd is pretty casual |
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msallied
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Thu Sep-10-09 02:13 AM Response to Reply #28 |
65. That's your fucking problem. |
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firedupdem
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
13. LOL! |
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Number23
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:40 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. Be nice, firedup. This is ol' Sara's first post in MONTHS |
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firedupdem
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Wed Sep-09-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I'm sure you're right.....some things never change. n/t |
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saracat
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #27 |
130. Actually, its not. I even had a couple of posts on the greatest page recently |
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polichick
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
15. Yeah, that abortion bit is ridiculous - why should we pay for smokers... |
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graywarrior
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
16. I don't feel slighted in the least. |
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FrenchieCat
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
17. That's it! |
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grantcart
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Wed Sep-09-09 10:42 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. How do you like being under the bus FrenchieCat? |
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FrenchieCat
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Wed Sep-09-09 10:46 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Cozy, I guess. |
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NYC_SKP
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
18. Oh Fucking Bullshit, Saracat. Abortion was never ever going to fly, so your outrage is pointless. |
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depakid
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Wed Sep-09-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
49. Just a sycophanrt |
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Peacetrain
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
21. He did NOT throw us under the bus... |
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Hutzpa
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
22. I like to get attention |
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DevonRex
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
24. More BS from Saracat. What a surprise. Not. nt |
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Mad_Dem_X
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Wed Sep-09-09 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
25. I was very disappointed by the abortion thing |
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RoadRage
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Wed Sep-09-09 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
32. It's much better to stand behind an issue that will prevent the entire bill passed? |
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Abe66
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Wed Sep-09-09 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
33. "I give him and the speech writers credit"....does DU often mutate in to Freepersville? |
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BeyondGeography
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Wed Sep-09-09 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
34. Absurd |
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ProSense
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Wed Sep-09-09 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
35. You're clueless. Don't talk about stuff you don't know anything about. n/t |
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Honeycombe8
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Wed Sep-09-09 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
36. Giving up abortion sounds okay to me. (I'm a woman) How many women |
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saracat
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Thu Sep-10-09 01:33 AM Response to Reply #36 |
62. "A small thing to give up" ? Wow.perhaps all female reproductive care can be given up as well. |
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msallied
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Thu Sep-10-09 02:10 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Hyperbole Alert!! |
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saracat
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Thu Sep-10-09 03:30 AM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Yeah. All women's reproductive issues are viewed as hyperbole and nonsense by many on this board |
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msallied
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Thu Sep-10-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #69 |
93. No, I just view your posts as hysterical. |
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WinkyDink
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Fri Sep-11-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #36 |
125. Is this a parody post? |
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geek tragedy
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Sat Sep-12-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #125 |
134. No. Some PUMAs still haven't gotten it. nt |
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Wed Sep-09-09 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
38. Thrown under the bus - women up front. Pretty speeches are meaningless. |
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Wed Sep-09-09 11:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
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Thu Sep-10-09 09:38 PM Response to Reply #38 |
111. You bashed him over the inaugural. So, we know your |
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geek tragedy
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Thu Sep-10-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #38 |
113. Here is a prime example of someone espousing shit: |
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Douglas Carpenter
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Wed Sep-09-09 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
40. well President Obama does have to get a bill actually passed |
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Wed Sep-09-09 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
41. Watch the speech again. He didn't throw women or "us" under the bus... |
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Thu Sep-10-09 06:25 AM Response to Reply #41 |
73. clearly |
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saltpoint
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Wed Sep-09-09 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
42. It just wouldn't be a post-Obama speech night without |
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Aramchek
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Wed Sep-09-09 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
43. carry a grudge much? |
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depakid
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Wed Sep-09-09 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
45. He threw health care advocates of all stripes under the bus |
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msallied
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Thu Sep-10-09 02:12 AM Response to Reply #45 |
64. You worked for his campaign? I never would have guessed... |
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TwilightGardener
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Wed Sep-09-09 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
46. You're still here? That's a shame. |
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Wed Sep-09-09 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
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Wed Sep-09-09 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
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karynnj
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Wed Sep-09-09 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
51. Male reproductive health is equivilent to female reproductive health, which is covered, |
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Wed Sep-09-09 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
53. Elizabeth Edwards seemed to like the plan, and the speech. |
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Thu Sep-10-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #53 |
98. Yep |
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ShortnFiery
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Wed Sep-09-09 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
54. You won't get many people to agree with you here, but I concur. |
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kath
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Wed Sep-09-09 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
55. They won't pay for abortion. But I'll bet you a brazillion dollars they'll still pay for Viagra... |
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saltpoint
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Wed Sep-09-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. In any case pregnancy is not the same as libido. |
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Wed Sep-09-09 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
57. Still pissed about Hillary, huh? |
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Thu Sep-10-09 02:49 AM Response to Original message |
66. Hi Saracat. |
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FrenchieCat
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Thu Sep-10-09 02:57 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Since made legal, Women have gotten abortion fine up to this point....... |
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saracat
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Thu Sep-10-09 03:39 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Really? And pharmacists have to fill prescriptions? And what was that about abiding by those "Laws o |
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FrenchieCat
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Thu Sep-10-09 03:44 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. I live in California...... |
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saracat
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Fri Sep-11-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #71 |
123. And it all about you? I happen to live in a city that has a Planned Parenthood but many |
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Thu Sep-10-09 06:27 AM Response to Original message |
74. Why is abortion a private matter until you want other people to pay for it? |
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Thu Sep-10-09 06:33 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. our health care-is private including women's reproductive procedures. |
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Thu Sep-10-09 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
77. nice backhanded compliment. it's good to know your bitterness towards the guy you didn't vote for is |
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saltpoint
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Thu Sep-10-09 08:22 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. The OP routinely crafts these to caterwaul against Barack Obama. |
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Thu Sep-10-09 08:30 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. i haven't seen her screeds around here for a while. and no it wasn't hillary, it was smoove johnny. |
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Thu Sep-10-09 08:36 AM Response to Reply #81 |
84. The OP and I both supported John Edwards, on my part at least because |
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dionysus
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Thu Sep-10-09 08:47 AM Response to Reply #84 |
88. thanks for the clarification. |
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saltpoint
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Thu Sep-10-09 08:52 AM Response to Reply #88 |
89. -- -- |
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saracat
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Thu Sep-10-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #77 |
97. Nonsense. I voted for him in the general and that is all that counts! |
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saltpoint
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Thu Sep-10-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #97 |
105. You're far to eager and using many fewer facts for that mission. |
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Thu Sep-10-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #97 |
112. That's not what you said at CHF. nt |
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saracat
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Fri Sep-11-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #112 |
117. I expressed my primary opinion. I never said I did not vote for him in the |
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Sat Sep-12-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #117 |
132. You were a Birther back in 2008: |
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LynneSin
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Thu Sep-10-09 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
80. As a woman I have no issues with that |
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TheKentuckian
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Thu Sep-10-09 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
85. I'm pretty sure there are some "supposedly" on our side that don't want a bill that can pass |
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Thu Sep-10-09 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
86. Welcome back |
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hileeopnyn8d
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Thu Sep-10-09 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
87. You are only |
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LynneSin
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Thu Sep-10-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #87 |
92. OMG DOUBLE WHAMMY ZINGER YEAH!!!! |
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DevonRex
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Thu Sep-10-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #87 |
94. +1. Ha ha. That was really good. |
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Fri Sep-11-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #87 |
119. Ouch! Perfect response |
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Thu Sep-10-09 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
91. I 'm a 58 yr old woman and I don't feel thrown under the bus at all. n/t |
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WyldRogue
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Thu Sep-10-09 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
100. My wife says... |
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Thu Sep-10-09 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
101. Unfortunately, I don't see how there was ever a chance for abortion funding. |
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Blue_In_AK
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Thu Sep-10-09 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
102. Spelling police here. |
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saltpoint
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Thu Sep-10-09 11:21 PM Response to Reply #102 |
115. Although now that you mention it, Blue_In_AK, I actually do want torte |
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Blue_In_AK
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Fri Sep-11-09 12:05 AM Response to Reply #115 |
116. You are a funny man, OC. |
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barbiegeek
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Thu Sep-10-09 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
103. Why need abortion if BIRTH CONTROL IS COVERED |
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saracat
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Fri Sep-11-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #103 |
118. Why need abortion? That is the silliest comment yet. Do you not |
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alteredstate
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Thu Sep-10-09 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
106. I haven't spent time at DU for while. |
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David Zephyr
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Fri Sep-11-09 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
127. Kick. |
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:42 PM Response to Reply #127 |
131. No victory ever for you.. |
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Sat Sep-12-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #127 |
133. Never thought you'd be a PUMA. nt |
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Fri Sep-11-09 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
128. Hi, Saracat!! |
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Fri Sep-11-09 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
129. Abortion definitely needs to be covered. |
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