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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 08:45 AM Original message |
OBAMA CAMPAIGN: Gergen had a brilliant response to McCain/Palin charge of "redistribution" charges |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
1. This needs a thousand recommendations - I'll be #1 |
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IllinoisBirdWatcher (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
28. Please cross-post this to all Democratic blogs. |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
2. This notion that what Barack is suggesting is socialism is a load of hoo ha.. |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
65. It is a form of democratic socialism, we've been doing for a long long time. |
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stlsaxman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-29-08 05:57 AM Response to Reply #65 |
96. one little difference here- |
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dennis4868 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
3. Gergen is right... |
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holiday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. kick |
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INdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #3 |
19. Copy and paste or send this as an attachment or whatever to the Obama |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
40. Gergen is wrong, it's the Earned INCOME Credit |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #40 |
81. IRS refers to it as both EIC, a tax credit, and EITC: |
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chomper (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
5. kick |
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Spiffarino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-29-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
101. I guarantee you they know about it |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
6. I heard Gergen say that too... |
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livedemocarticordie (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
7. yeah well morning joe |
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Sydnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
8. Kick the thread and the answer to the front page! n/t |
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npincus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
9. K&R |
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texasleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
10. K&R |
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hamsterjill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
11. Generally, Gergen gets it right |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
12. Agree with Gergen that the Dems need to hit back harder on this. |
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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
13. I heard it too - it's the perfect response. |
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MelSC (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
14. I am extremely impressed with David Gergan |
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Lucy Goosey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
15. k&r |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
16. Great Argument for passing bills |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
17. David Gergen is one of the BEST political commenters on TV today IMO! |
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MelSC (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Just sent him an email |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:41 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Thanks for the email link. He's one of my favorites. n/t |
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stoge18 (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. Agreed! Quite possbily THE best. |
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Bernardo de La Paz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
70. He has been for many years. At least since 1988 Gergen & Shields commentaries on PBS News Hour. |
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Dinosaur13 (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
18. K&R |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
21. I sent this to some Obama staffers I know... |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:35 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. excellent idea |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
22. . |
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bobd0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
25. K&R |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
26. K&R. n/t |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
27. Rec'd~ And a |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
29. This, BTW, is how I shut up a room full of GOP tax preparers yesterday. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
31. I didn't know that! Talk about the perfect response! |
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d.amber (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
32. kick and kick.. |
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beac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
33. K&R! |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
34. Unfortunately if you can't reduce it to a one line sound bite |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. And then we wonder why the nation is in the dire straits it has found itself. |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
35. Obama has brought up the EIC in his speeches and said |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
46. Maybe he should |
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LesserFool (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
36. Ask Team McPalin If they are proposing to abolish the progressive tax system? |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
37. Exactly. Besides Alaska pays no sales or state tax and has been redistributing the wealth for years |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
38. Ack, no, it was the Earned Income Credit |
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StClone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #38 |
69. I don't have time to research this |
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StClone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
39. Norway Actively Redistributes Wealth with the Blessings of the Rich |
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TheDonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
41. Giving tax breaks to the middle class is Socialism, Giving tax breaks to Mega rich is republicanism |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. Your subject line summed it up beautifully! |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
42. EXACTLY!!!! |
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MindMatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
43. BULLSHIT. The rich DO NOT pay more taxes than the poor |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
44. Certainly no one line sound bite, that people & media look for each day on television news |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
45. Let's break it down. ANY tax takes money from someone and re-distributes it elsewhere. And not |
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BlueDonkey08 (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #45 |
71. Agreed 100% |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #45 |
74. Excellent point- taxes go to govt subsidies for corps. |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
47. K&R n/t |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
48. Teddy Roosevelt is one of McCain's Heroes |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. That's part of what makes Gergen's response so brilliant |
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JimDandy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
51. Ronald Regan supported "Redistribution of Wealth" |
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JJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #51 |
72. Well known that Reagan was a commie |
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wizstars (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-29-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #72 |
99. "Ronald Reagan hated Commies.... |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
52. K&R |
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JaneQPublic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
53. George Will on Sunday's "This Week" on ABC: |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #53 |
62. Exactly!!! |
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MelSC (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #53 |
64. Has George Will endorsed Obama yet? |
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JaneQPublic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Many months ago Will said Ron Paul was his candidate... |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. He May Have Meant It |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
54. K&R |
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meuniermr (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
56. David Gergen is a globalist CFR stooge. |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. which is relevant how? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
57. I made a video of some of the statements... |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
58. Reagan should not get all the credit there |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #58 |
67. The point is that Republican "heroes" embraced "redistribution of wealth" |
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pam4water (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #58 |
86. Thanks for posting, I mean tot look that up. I knew it couldn't have been Reagan's idea |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
59. Rethugs simply borrowed debt for years and look where we are. They never balanced budgets. |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
61. K & R |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
63. The sad thing is, the people who believe this socialism talk |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
68. K&R |
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speedoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
73. Eisenhower and Teddy Roosevelt, two republicans who might have earned my vote. |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
76. FINALLY |
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Dystopian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
77. Recommendation #199. n/t |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
78. I heard him say that. I didn't know that. Obama campaign should be prepared to say that. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
79. McCain says he's in favor of it... |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
80. Here have another! |
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Cabcere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
82. The more I hear from David Gergen, the more I like him. |
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Johnny2X2X (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
83. Used these arguments |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
84. k&r |
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Iwillnevergiveup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
85. Happily Rec #225 |
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pam4water (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
87. There is probably a whole thread some where and they mention it on CountDown but Palin Redistrubutes |
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sarah FAILIN (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-28-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. KO called her a communist because of that, lol!! |
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Syano (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-29-08 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
89. Kick |
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oxbow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-29-08 12:27 AM Response to Original message |
90. Spreading wealth!?? how much has the income gap increased between rich and poor in the last 8 years? |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-29-08 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
91. KICK AND RECOMMENDED --- |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-29-08 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
92. Pres. Gerald Ford (R) began the EITC, Reagan re-enacted it, |
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mamameow (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-29-08 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
93. redistribution/class warfare!!!??? |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-29-08 03:02 AM Response to Original message |
94. This is exactly what I was hoping would be said. |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-29-08 04:07 AM Response to Original message |
95. another way to make the hypocrites eat their "spread the wealth" put-down: |
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King Coal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-29-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #95 |
97. No, that is spreading the coats and meat. |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-29-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #97 |
103. LOL! |
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NorCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-29-08 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
98. I've been saying stuff like this for weeks. |
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rniel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-29-08 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
100. But |
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ItNerd4life (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-29-08 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
102. LOL. I love it. Throw Reagan back in their face! n/t |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-29-08 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
104. I've always liked Gergen - he usually makes so much sense! |
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