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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:25 AM
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Barack slip up on ABC
McCain nor his camp has said not said anthing about my muslim faith. Then he said you know I mean they have not questioned my christian faith.

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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:27 AM
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1. Hannity will have that 3 second clip on a loop by this evening
and it will play nonstop from now until election day, I guarantee you.
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:30 AM
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6. I agree.. But Barack did clarify what he meant, and he was not called out on it by Step
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:38 AM
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15. And I knew what he meant before I even finished reading your post
and it's no concern to me, but Hannity doesn't care what people actually MEAN. He plays a 3 second loop where Obama is narrating his book about 'white man's greed' and claims Obama 'said this so he believes this.' There's no shame with this asshat.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:53 PM
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78. Obama did NOT make a mistake
McCain has not talked about Obama having a Muslim faith.

It was no mistake.

But everyone has talked about Obama's Christian faith... 'member his pastor?
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:49 AM
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85. Please visit and rec this thread. Provides full quote from Obama
It has a link to the full quote from Obama. This thread should make the home page because it goes without saying that our Free-ky friends are having the Grandest Time Ever over this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x183884#184041
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freebird2000 Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:46 PM
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72. ABC news and the 3-second clip
It is not that someone WILL take this out of context.

The video (and AUDIO) was already edited by ABC. The interview is full of cuts. Right after Obama says "my Muslim faith," it cuts away to Stephanopoulos. This is HUGE and no one is saying anything about that.

Does ABC get a free pass on editing this comment?
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:42 PM
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76. It's already out there.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:28 AM
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2. What ever. nt
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:29 AM
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3. I really don't care. It was sort of a slip up. Big deal.
After nineteen months of smearing, I just don't give a damn if some ignorant asshole decides to jump on that slip up.
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ChazII Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:23 PM
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81. Agree with you, 100% . n/t
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:29 AM
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4. only Republicans are allowed to misspeak with impunity
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:30 AM
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5. Yeah, I saw that
and was bummed, just because I know the freepers and fundies are going to have a field day with it.

it means nothing but fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:30 AM
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7. I don't know what the exact question was, but what he was trying to say is they weren't
saying he was a Muslim and questioning his faith

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blitzburgh55 Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:30 AM
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8. On you tube already
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:31 AM
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10. Not surprise.... This will be a 2 day flame at least
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:31 AM
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9. Just great, first Caribou Barbie now this
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:29 PM
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71. Well poop
I'm against anything that takes attention away from Palin. This is a gift to the McCain campaign, but we need to bury it. No hits on websites carrying this.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:33 AM
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11. Don't visit the youtube site! Let it sink.
Don't give it hits...

Thank you.
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:34 AM
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12. Agreed
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kiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:39 AM
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Aaaarrggg...too late.
Who are these morans who commented on this clip (which didn't show Obama's later correction)?
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:37 AM
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13. Expect the quote to be taken out of context, and e-mailed endlessly for the next 2 months
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 10:37 AM by bob_weaver
They'll just use the words "McCain nor his camp has not said anything about my muslim faith." and that will be multiplied by the billions, even though what Obama meant was "McCain nor his camp has not said tried to claim I am a muslim; that has all been a below-the-radar smear tactic on blogs and by mass e-mail."
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:40 AM
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17. Yeah
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:37 AM
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14. That is NOT TRUE! It was VERY clear what was meant.

The way you put it made it seem like he made a slip-up but he didn't. He MEANT muslim faith.. that they were not behind the talk/lies of him being MUSLIM. He didn't mean he was muslim, and he didn't actually accidentally say it either.

I was watching it and Stephanapolis made a point of "correcting" him by saying "Oh you mean your Christian faith?" and then Obama's gracious reaction to that obvious attempt to misportray what he said, which was to say "Right..." or something like that, which was better than saying "Uh huh, you stupid twit, you KNOW I didn't mean that." And then went on to say something like "of course I'm Christian"
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ps1074 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:39 AM
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16. Doesn't matter
It will be all over RW mailings in the next 2 months. This alone will cost him about a million votes I guess.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:41 AM
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22. this alone will cost him a million votes?
let me just echo another poster and say...YAWN.
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i-grok Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:24 PM
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68. If you don't think it will cost a lot of votes you're grossly overestimating the intelligence
of the American electorate. He could have avoided all this brouhaha if he'd said "Senator McCain hasn't claimed I'm a Muslim because he knows it's not true." The remark wasn't up to his usual careful rhetoric and you better know the wingnuts will milk it for all it's worth.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:19 PM
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80. oh fuck off. A million?
The people who are swayed by this would likely have been swayed by some other Obama smear down the line, sadly.
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i-grok Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:30 PM
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83. Fine. Forget about it. You know we'll win so there's no need to worry.
I'm very relieved.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:47 AM
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28. Step away from the bong.
Or just hand it to me. :)
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:59 AM
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34. A million votes? LOL
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:37 AM
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46. No! It will cost him 1 BRAZILLION votes!!! We're DOOMED!!!!
:rofl:
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:44 AM
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26. Thanks for clarifying, although I trust Obama enough to know what he meant before I even
finished reading the OP.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:28 AM
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41. Do you know what I think? Not that anyone would care but I need to say it anyways
If a man or woman can get MY country back on track, get us out of this shitty mess we find ourselves in, stop the damn warmongering, promote ONE NATION made of the many, I wouldn't give a gotdamn if he or she was a fucking atheist, wiccan, the golly fucking green giant, Arab or Muslim, black, white, brown, yellow or red, I would be MORE than happy to show my support to a politician that puts ME (as in us, America - ALL of us) 1st before any entity.

Thank God the demographics of this country is changing.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:40 AM
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18. Only the loons we'll never have will jump on that
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:43 AM
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49. Exactly. I did leave them a nice mesage though.
:-)
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:40 AM
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19. YAWN !!!!
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:41 AM
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20. But, as President, McCain will "Veto EVERY BEER!"
If someone sends you Barack's slip, fire this back. That is a direct quote from McCain, he wants to veto your beer. Just look, he picked a Christian extremist running mate, probably to help him veto beer.

I'm series.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:41 AM
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21. Your concern regarding this concern is very concering.
You have us all concerned.
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Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:42 AM
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23. Yup yup
:thumbsup:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:18 PM
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79. I'm concerned about the concern. How much concern should there be? And should we be concerned?
I've forgotten about this already, actually.

I guess I just answered my own question.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:42 AM
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24. This won't swing any voter's away from Obama.
Only those who already hate him will care, only haters watch Hannity or listen to Bush, or buy into these out of context clips.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:43 AM
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25. Anyone that STILL thinks he is a muslim wasn't going to ever vote for him anyways.
No worries here.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:47 AM
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30. That's about the size of it
Thanks, Dawgs.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:44 AM
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27. Grrrr!
Understandable slip of the tongue, but it's going to cost him. The GOP blogs and smear emailers are going to have a field day claiming this was a Freudian slip and that he "accidentally revealed his true colors" or something like that.
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thestrugglecontinues Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:47 AM
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29. Already up on youtube
And not good.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:49 AM
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32. DONT. GO. THERE. What is up with these newbie posters???
Telling us all about this shit, let it go, go for a walk or something.....

Looking at the youtube gives it hits, makes it more newsworthy, let it go!

Fer shit's sake!
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:47 AM
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31. OMG!!! Look at THIS YouTube! It shows Obama....
...in a much better light.

Watching it helped change my 82 y.o. mom's mind.

Please check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw4fRvFhuh4

It's a toe-tapper!

:donut:

.

.

.

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Bravo Zulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:59 AM
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33. No big deal
The way the interrogator asked the question, it was a honest mistake!
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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:03 AM
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35. Daaaaaamn
That was unfortunate.
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:03 AM
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36. You have to hear the whole exchange to understand it...
Not really a slip up but the freepers can take it out of context. That's the bad thing. If you hear more of the exchange, you know that he meant it was a discussion about not suggesting he was a Muslim. You guys scared me a minute there.


http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=5745201

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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:08 AM
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37. You should video reply that on you tube
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:17 AM
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38. Here it is
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:42 AM
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48. I agree I heard the entire exchange and knew what he meant
Barack is no more muslim than I am. I have been Catholic my entire life.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:19 AM
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39. That's not quite what he said. You don't provide any context, only a "gotcha" moment.
For those who are interested in seeing the whole interview:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6973109
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:19 AM
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40. This poster has another hit thread on Obama today
With no context and info. What a surprise!
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:01 PM
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75. Remember, the McCain campaign is offering prizes for trolling comments on Dem blogs...
Hmmm...
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:33 AM
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43. Thanks for the link.... I know what I heard I saw it on ABC...
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:37 AM
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45. But, it's the 'gotcha' moment that's the problem
This will be used to further the right-wing meme that Obama is a foreigner who can't be trusted. It was a bad slipup, almost as bad as saying the surge was a success.I think it's worth thinking about how we can respond if someone uses it as "evidence" that Obama is a Muslim.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:43 AM
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50. The fact is that there are people who will find any excuse not to vote for Obama.
If anyone is going to use an out of context quote to decide to not vote for Obama, they weren't going to in the first place.

We're dealing with people who think the truth comes from out of context quotes and something they read in a chain email. These people already had a prejudice against Obama in the first place.

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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:45 AM
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52. That was why I posted this
to inform the team of what was going on this morning on ABC even though I am getting slammed for posting this. I am working as hard as I can to help us win this campaign and others have nothing better to do but beat the messenger. Thanks for your reasonable post
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:07 PM
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62. No, you said plainly that it was a slipup, and provided NO facts, in fact you misled everyone
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 12:08 PM by PelosiFan
with what you posted. If you really intended to inform your "team" then you should have provided the context, and not just what you are now pretending to be an innocent warning about what the RW meme will be.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:32 AM
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42. Sometimes I wonder why a man
of Obama's intelligence, courage and fortitude even bothers with this nation of half-wits.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:38 AM
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47. I wonder why too
:(

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Kaylee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:38 PM
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84. Me three. This is downright idiotic.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:36 AM
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44. mccain or his camp probably havent. prove that they have. it is the mouths that the camp
is not responsible for doing it. there has to be clarity cause of what we do with palin and seperate from obama and his camp. is the way it is. and it is good too that he did that cause it is saying, they do not question. it is bullshit rumor see.....

not a slip
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:45 AM
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51. Yea, I saw this. My jaw dropped. It was just a misspeak, but it will be all over the internet.
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:48 AM
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53. Yeah
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:52 AM
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54. I saw that. I was immediately "oh shit".
Freepers will take it out of context and circulate it endlessly, with the caption "Obama ADMITS he's Muslim!". We have to keep it in context.
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:54 AM
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55. Yes
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:56 AM
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56. lol....how come you keep replying "yes"
to everyone who replies that they saw it...what's the point?
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:58 AM
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57. I'll let you answer that ........
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:12 PM
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64. I see you are also a newbie here.
So is that why you are posting this BS... For the record I am a she and not a he. Thanks
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:00 PM
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58. IT WAS NOT A SLIP UP.......OBAMA WAS TAKING THE HIGH ROAD , AS USUAL, AND SAYING THAT McCAIN HAD
NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT MY 'MUSLIM FAITH', MEANING IT IN SARCASM......

GO SEE THE TAPE.
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:06 PM
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60. After that snow white and divisive RNC convention
I hope Obama uses the slip up to emphasize the nastiness of trying to associate fear of terrorism with all muslims.

He needs a line that will put a shameful spotlight on the person asking.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:10 PM
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63. And what would be the RW's point in "making hay" of this? They hate Muslims?
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:13 PM
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65. Any moran who would take this at face value (out of context) is too stupid to vote for Obama
ANYWAY, and would clearly fall into the McCain/Cro-Magnon demographic. :eyes:
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:19 PM
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66. having fun today, huh?
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freebird2000 Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:21 PM
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67. ABC edited Obama's response
On the west coast, ABC appears to have edited out Obama's correction after he says "my Muslim faith." It cuts to Stephanopoulos.
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:26 PM
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69. Not surprised.... The campaign will get on this I'm sure
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 06:00 AM
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89. HEY! I showed up to deliver that pizza you ordered, but you're not home!
Asshole.

:-)
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the Sundance Kid Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:28 PM
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70. your concern is breathtaking!
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:57 PM
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73. I posted the video response here...
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:57 PM
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74. QUESTION
WTF are you doing here?????????????????????????

Are you here to distort and mislead and dance on
Obamas parade, what kind of grave dancing is this????

Why don't you go find something to do, like help register
people to vote.

:grr:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:50 PM
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77. Oh F****CK!!!!
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:24 PM
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82. Yes, this was REALLY bad! I wish he had avoided the Sunday
shows. This could turn out to be as a bad as the "I voted for the war before I voted against it" comment by Kerry. It feeds into their lies. Now he gave the 527s some footage to use in their commercials. Biden was awesome today. Obama was okay but bordering bad after the slip-up. Oh well...guess we all have moments like that.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:54 AM
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86. Let the right wing nutjobs have their distraction.
It's a time waster.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:54 AM
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87. Let the right wing nutjobs have their distraction.
It's a time waster.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:57 AM
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88. Ok then, NOW is the time to go after HER religion BIGTIME!!!
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 05:59 AM by Waiting For Everyman
It has to be done. Use the Wasilla "Armageddon Alaska" video. Joel's Army, Christian Exodus, Theocracy, CUFI, everything. Doesn't matter if it's an airtight legal case or not. Obama needs to fight fire with bigger fire. I just hope he has all the ammo that we've found.

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