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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:14 AM
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Obama AIPAC coming up on MSNBC
being introduced right now.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:15 AM
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1. Live on C-SPAN 3
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:16 AM
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2. Its on CNN also. Does this group endorse?
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:41 AM
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24. No
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:17 AM
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3. m$nbc covering it also; his first speech as the presumptive nominee
is how it's being billed. GOBAMA, knock it out of the park! At least no one will be falling asleep a la McCain.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:25 AM
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16. He acknowledged Clinton in his speech, will she do the same? I am skeptical /nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:43 AM
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26. Never! Time to rid himself of the extra baggage. nt
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:49 AM
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32. I don't disagree with you on that, in fact I will be very troubled if he chooses her as
Vice President, which I don't think he will

On another issue, his speech at AIPAC is very balanced. It is not just political pandering. He is laying out the issues and the problems we need to confront

He is calling for a two state solution, and engaging in a dialog with all parties in the region

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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:18 AM
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4. He's up!
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:19 AM
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5. Obama's on...yay!!!
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:19 AM
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6. Bitter Jews for Obama!!!


we've got your back!

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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:50 AM
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35. This not so bitter Jew here is for Obama
:-)
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:19 AM
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7. he looks tired - must've been a long night!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:20 AM
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"eventful night last night"! still bleary-eyed!
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ReverendDeuce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:20 AM
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8. He has an amazing tie on! Where can I buy this? "The Obama Collection"...
It's HOT!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:21 AM
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9. funny that, one of the things I personally like about him, is that he doesn't go for the
Politician's Red or Politician's Blue. He wears really great ties. Lots of color.
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ReverendDeuce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:24 AM
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13. I never noticed that, honestly. This seems like a whole new look to me...
But then, I probably just did not notice. Usually they all wear red or blue, boring stuff.

It almost looks like he is going for a new look now that he is going to be the nominee...
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:25 AM
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15. he's worn that one before, and the one he wore last night was so great, I mentioned it to my dh
it was a beautiful light blue
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:02 AM
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48. I just watched the whole thing, I have no idea what his tie looked like but his suit was dark blue.
Funny, I usually notice ties LOL...

Regardless, this was a FANTASTIC speech, and it makes McCain's to the same group earlier in the week look like child's work....
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:21 AM
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10. Mentions Clinton
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:22 AM
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11. "I will be speaking from my heart" this is gonna be a good one.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:23 AM
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12. he's getting a lot of applause.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:25 AM
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14. Thanks!!! I wouldn't have caught this otherwise
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:27 AM
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17. standing ovation - this is amazing!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:28 AM
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19. its good.
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:28 AM
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18. Receiving standing O's on his comments about the holocast
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:33 AM
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20. He is doing very well.
Outlining military policy and memorandum of understanding regarding Israel's security.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:35 AM
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21. Peace is in Israel's national security interest.
Will make a personal commitment to advance the cause of peace, not in the waning days of his administration, but from the start.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:35 AM
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22. "I will take an active role and a personal committment"
not wait for the waning days of my administration.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:36 AM
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23. Nothing has changed. O the irony. A war that AIPAC championed
and a nominee who opposed the war. Three Isreali soldiers held by Hezbollah but no mentioned of the thousands of Palestinians held by the IDF.

Change = no change.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:45 AM
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29. The Democratic Party is fundamentally committed to the security of our ally Israel
Obama is keeping with the platform of the party which will nominate him.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:12 AM
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71. Sad but AIPAC is probably not to venue to mention thousands of Palestinians held by the IDF
not if you value your political career.

As long as he doesn't promise war and promises to pursue peace for both, I'm happy.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:42 AM
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25. I did not like it when he said Jersualem should remain the capital of Israel
That wont go well with Palestinians Barack.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:44 AM
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28. I thought Tel Aviv is the capital; shows what I know. nt
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:46 AM
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30. Tel Aviv is somewhat the capital but Israel wishes to make Jerusalem the capital
That move is strongly opposed by the Arabs and some in the international community. I am sorry to say Obama pandered to AIPAC by making that suggestion. I am not happy about what he said.

GWB also made that gesture when he ran for president.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:53 AM
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39. I'm sorry AIPAC is such a strong body in the U.S. And I'll say no more. nt
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:48 AM
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31. How many electoral voted does Palestine have?
:shrug:
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:50 AM
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34. How many electoral votes does Israel have?
:shrug:
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:53 AM
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38. None, but there are a heck of a lot more Jewish voters in the US that Palestinian ones
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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:56 AM
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40. two capitals
West Jerusalem for the Israelis; East Jerusalem for the Palestinians. Hopefully we can see that, which is supported by the Arab states.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:58 AM
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46. He did not mention the two capital notion
He also did not mention Israel's siege on Gaza and the humanitarian situation there. He failed to mention a whole lot of things. :thumbsdown:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:03 AM
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49. And he will continue to do so.
He is in GE mode now.

Perfect is the enemy of the good. Remember that.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:06 AM
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58. Perhaps becuse he doesn't support the two capitol notion
The Democratic Party doesn't support that either.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:13 AM
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76. Me neither. How specific was he? n/t
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:43 AM
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27. "I refuse to continue a policy that has made Israel and the U.S. less secure." n/t
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:50 AM
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33. HA HA!! McCain never signed on to the divestment bill Obama sponsored.
That will not go over well McCain.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:52 AM
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37. ...
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:04 AM
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52. May not go over well with McCain, but truth is he NEVER signed off on what McCain is now proposing!
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:19 AM
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91. Why sign off if Obama's plan is progressing through thouh?
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:51 AM
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36. Great Speech by Obama today. He's hitting them out of the park today
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:56 AM
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42. I stopped commentating because the speech was so detailed
and I wanted to listen to it.

wow.

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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:57 AM
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44. I got a little emotional ...
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:56 AM
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41. Jews and African Americans
That's the bridge that I think Obama can help rebuild. It is STUPID that it has been burned and it should be rebuilt.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:01 AM
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47. People like Jesse Jackson, Shartpton and Farrakhan have been setting those fires for too long
Obama is a new kind of African-American leader.
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:06 AM
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60. Obama is offering to lead the reconciliation
of a once very strong bond. That is very exciting!
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:57 AM
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43. good speech
Hillary is also there.
Will they be meeting?
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 09:58 AM
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45. Great speech!
Great reception too. Standing ovation and all.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:04 AM
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53. PHENOMENAL speech... tone and content were perfect
and very pursausive, for the doubters out there. Even Joe Scarborough looked shaken, as though Obama had hit every point of perceived weakness.

Wow. Just, wow.

Best moment: when he gave props to the Jewish civil rights activists who died, that were it not for them, he wouldn't be where he is today.

Uh-oh... here comes Hillary.

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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:08 AM
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I wonder if she is going to try to steal the spotlight n/t
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Galway girl Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:03 AM
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50. AIPAC want us to Bomb Iran
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:04 AM
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54. Yep, lots of applause.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:10 AM
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65. Applause for DIPLOMACY.
Obama stated that military force would only be used when ALL other avenues of negotiation were exhausted which is the reason why diplomacy was so important. Big applause for that. Of course military force should be used ONLY when absolutely necessary, which is what Obama said, and what the audience applauded.



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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:08 AM
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62. no they don't.
Didn't you hear the response Obama got when he talked about diplomacy, and the perils of not talking with enemies?

Let's not sweep all with a broad brush; the sentiments of a small group of extremists do not represent all.



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Galway girl Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 02:57 AM
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93. Did you here what Olmert said ...We back the Bush plan ie (Bomb Iran)
I know many Israeli's support diplomacy but their voices are always drowned out
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:04 AM
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51. Clinton's up!
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:05 AM
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56. running for VP in this speech
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:05 AM
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57. Will she cry? Will she rail against injustice? Will she wax nostalgic?
I have no idea!
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:06 AM
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59. should be interesting...
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:07 AM
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61. Will she mention Obama, as graciously as he mentioned her?
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:08 AM
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63. She hasn't yet! He did it rather quickly and easily too.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:11 AM
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68. Doesn't look like it. She congratulated someone else on their win - but
forgot to recognize Obama. Still campaigning like she has a chance.
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:12 AM
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72. Well thank you Hillary for saying something nice about Obama
Edited on Wed Jun-04-08 10:14 AM by Doityourself
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:17 AM
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88. She did just recognize him. They share the same view on Israel
Good for her.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:04 AM
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55. Who is the shill that introduced her?
Wow, he must be drinking the Clinton Kool-Aid, "Candidate for President".
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:10 AM
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66. Something Kaplan.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:09 AM
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64. This is another campaign speech from Clinton
She's still pandering and yet to acknowledge Obama, as usual.
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:11 AM
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69. I know not one fucking word of acknowledgement for Obama!
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:12 AM
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70. Yet she points out that it only took 11 minutes for the US to officially recognize Israel
Yet somehow it doesn't apply to common class and decorum in the most important election in our lifetime.
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oregonjen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:13 AM
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74. No, but there sure is a lot of I, I, I, me, me. me...
Selfish narcissistic person.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:13 AM
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79. You would think her campaign staff would recognize this
And make changes to it to get away from it.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:10 AM
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67. Any mention of the presumptive nominee yet? Didn't anyone tell her? nt
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:13 AM
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75. This isn't exactly a tactic to use to run for VP, not a word about Obama, not one....
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:13 AM
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77. Oh, sorry, she is now mentioning him.. thanks Hillary...
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:13 AM
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78. finally Obama...omg...okay Hillary...Obama is my friend and will be a good friend to Isreal!
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:14 AM
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81. Nice, I can respect that!
Thank you, Hillary.

I'm glad to hear it.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:13 AM
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73. great speech
ill be more than happy to call this man Mr President ;)
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:14 AM
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80. Hillary Clinton just conceded.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:15 AM
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83. I wish!
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:15 AM
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84. Maybe
Edited on Wed Jun-04-08 10:33 AM by TornadoTN
I thought it was a nice start, then it turned around the opposite direction.

I can't figure her out.
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:15 AM
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85. What she said about Obama was good...and she's dissing McCain! go Hillary
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:16 AM
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87. You got that right, McCain will make the Middle East a more dangerous place. Wow.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:14 AM
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82. "I know that Senator Obama will be a good friend to Israel."
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:16 AM
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86. "McCain offers nothing but the same, more Bush!"
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:18 AM
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89. Ooh, I like that, the swamp of fear.
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:19 AM
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90. Yeah me too. The 2nd half of her speech is stellar..she's hitting all the right notes
Edited on Wed Jun-04-08 10:19 AM by Doityourself
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92. Hillary's three principles that she wants to see lead us forward:
I have a bedrock commitment to Israel's security
No nuclear weapons for Iran
Standing up against hatred and antisemitism wherever it is found.



Man, I'm not going to comment on this stuff.

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