help--what's the communist poster with Mao in blue and orange stripes(rising sun) in the background?

[Aloha Spirit]

Some Hillary supporters had such signs at her Philly rally, I'm trying to find the reference.
Thanks

Edit, here's the image

[anigbrowl]

1. like this?

It would be helpful if you could find a picture of the rally. But what do you hope to learn? A lot of artists have recycled old poster imagery in one way or another, it's a pop culture thing. Those holding the signs might not have any awareness that it referenced a Mao poster.

[Aloha Spirit]

2. yeah, I know... I just want a copy of it...thanks anyway!

[mythyc]

3. go to the video you posted earlier today and take a screen shot.

that will give a visual to those possibly interested. good luck!

[Aloha Spirit]

6. thanks for the tip!

:hug:

[Jed Dilligan]

18. Speaking of recycled imagery...

Kind of odd for Mao to use the exact same icon as appeared on the Imperial Japanese battle flag...

[JoFerret]

4. McGovern

[Aloha Spirit]

5. okay, here's what I'm talking about -->

?v=0

[maddiejoan]

7. Did it look like this?

[Aloha Spirit]

8. no, but do you know where I can get that?

[blogslut]

9. knock offs

Somebody is trying to re-create the individual, unsolicited works of art that have sprung from the well of talented people that support Senator Obama.

[Straight Shooter]

10. knock-offs

That "well of talented people" is imitating the poster art (black light enhanced) of the '60s. You know, that time period referred to as "the excesses of the '60s and '70s" that Barack finds so distasteful.

Look at Barack's logo. It's a stylized knock-off of the old Pepsi logo, with the wavy blue lines.

[hedgehog]

11. No, it's not.

[blogslut]

14. That's not what I'm saying

I'm saying that the Clinton poster is a knockoff of inspired art created by an individual artist.

[hedgehog]

16. I was replying to the post claiming Obama stole his logo from Pepsi.

I like the rising sun motif myself.

[Aloha Spirit]

19. Yes, I support rising suns 100%

[blogslut]

22. It's a filter in GIMP

;)

[Straight Shooter]

30. Didn't say it was "stolen."

I said it was a stylized knock-off. Anyway, Pepsi is associated with younger soda drinkers, and Coca-Cola with older soda drinkers.

Everything that can be done, in logos, symbols, icons, avatars, whatever, has been done. It's impossible nowadays to be original in a logo, as there are probably millions of logos in existence, and thousands of instantly recognizable logos. All art, when closely examined, can be likened to something else. Some logos happen to bear a closer resemblance to well-known logos than others.

[Straight Shooter]

20. I haven't seen that seal before, but a "sunrise" is a common theme.

There was a thread on DU quite some time ago which compared the Obama logo to the old Pepsi logo. The similarities were striking. I just don't feel like looking it up, transferring it to photobucket and then returning to DU to post it.

I personally don't care who is "knocking off" other people's work. The lines of distinction blur in art.

[blogslut]

21. I was there, my dear

And so was Barack Obama. We're what you would call Generation Jones. We watched as the over 30's and college students battled back and forth over generational differences. We sat passively, wondering what the hell was going on while the news played film of assassinations, riots, anger and soldiers getting slaughtered in some country on the other side of the world.

By the time we got to college, we were on our own. Our parents were divorced and all the hippies had gone corporate. We were disillusioned and rudderless in a sea of yuppies.

[Aloha Spirit]

37. Very desolate imagery. But you leave out the part about disco, that had to be pretty sweet.

[blogslut]

44. I attended a Disco burning party

Don't get me started on that soulless, heartless excuse for music. Just thinking about the "clap-track" makes my blood boil.

[Aloha Spirit]

46. The most lasting thing I learned from my 12th grade AP history teacher was that

Saturday Night Fever was the End of History.
My history teacher was always right and everything he said was true.
He was way ahead of Francis Fukuyama.

[blogslut]

48. Well, it was the end of the artist

And the rise of producer and formulaic pop. I spent my high school years listening to album-oriented-rock. Then, in 1978, I saw a band named DEVO on Saturday Night Live. That's when everything changed for me.

[onenote]

25. pepsi logo/obama logo

Lets check for similarities:
Round - Yes
Red white blue - Yes
Anything else? --- not really

[Jed Dilligan]

29. Good God!

Pepsico a conspiracy of crypto-Taoists.... This is hugh111!

[Aloha Spirit]

12. ha, maybe yr half-sarcastic, but these campaign posters are really intersesting...

the ones that are for real.. like the shepard fairey ones, which also take the design cue from socialist art
here's an article in NY Times
http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/15/beyond-red-white-and-blue/index.html

[blogslut]

13. I agree

The ones that are for real are wonderful. I had read the NYT piece before. Mr. Fairey is an artist who turns old imagery on its head.

That Hillary Poster looks like a knockoff designed by Kinko's.

[Aloha Spirit]

17. ha. the hillary poster DOES have a nice font! But yeah, the Fairey ones are collectible and quality.

[onenote]

26. I think the HRC poster is interesting

and if its a knock off of some of the retro Obama posters (which I'm not saying it is), so what. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

What is amusing, however, is that I recall some HRC supporters trying to make an issue out of a Obama poster as suggestive of a "totalitarian cult"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5410686

[blogslut]

27. Yes, I remember that

And it's still used as a grenade in their assorted arsenal of crap.

[Emit]

49. you might be interested in reading about this street artist for obama

Video at link

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-0207obamaartistfeb07,1,1774363.story

Designer behind Obama mystery art

Designer behind Obama mystery art
By Colleen Mastony

Tribune reporter

February 7, 2008

The posters and stenciled graffiti appeared one night out of nowhere, slapped by unseen hands on street corners and boarded buildings around the city. Each poster bore the image of a determined-looking Barack Obama -- painted in warm hues and ringed with sun rays. "It stopped me in my tracks," said John Stoops, 34, a collector of street art who spotted one poster on a construction barrier. "I thought, 'Who's doing this?'"

A small but colorful part of Obama iconography, the mysterious posters first appeared this summer in Chicago and have since ended up on streets as far away as Detroit, New York and California. The only clue to their source appeared at the bottom right corner of each print, where the artist's street name, "CRO," is printed in tiny lettering.

A Google search for CRO turns up 16 million hits. But a hunt through the Internet morass eventually leads to a Web site (gotellmama.org), which leads to an e-mail address, which eventually leads to a guy named Ray.

Ray turns out to be Ray Noland, a reed-thin 35-year-old Chicago freelance graphic artist, who has launched an unpaid, unauthorized one-man street art campaign on behalf of Obama. Over the last year and a half, Noland has designed and distributed hundreds of posters out of his Pilsen apartment, a fourth-floor walk-up packed with his Obama-inspired paintings, prints and T-shirts.

Noland is part of a recent boom in Obama Art, works that depict the candidate in every medium from oil on canvas to paper mache. The acclaimed poster artist Shepard Fairey last month released a limited-edition Obama print. In April, a Chicago art student created a stir with an Obama-as-messiah statue, made of paper and glue. And Sunday, supporters at a rally in Los Angeles waved huge Obama signs designed in the stark, colorful style of Andy Warhol.

Political art is a phenomenon that "goes back to Jefferson and probably Washington too," noted Larry Bird, political curator at the National Museum of American History. Today, campaigns work vigorously to control the message, often refusing to allow supporters to bring their own signs and instead mass producing placards that look "homemade." Such a heavily-orchestrated political environment can make original images even more striking. "In this day and age, when everything is focus-grouped tested and gone over, it's refreshing when you do stumble upon a sign that was made by the person carrying it."

So far, Noland's underground campaign remains a shoe-string operation. He has sold only one design to the official Obama campaign, a poster to publicize a New York City rally, he says. Otherwise, he remains a guerrilla street marketer of sorts, who survives on the occasional freelance gig as a commercial artist.

Hip-hop sensibility

~snip~

[Aloha Spirit]

50. Wow!! That's taking it back to Russian iconic imagery. Let's see, what styles have not been tried...

I need to think about this.

[yourguide]

15. Yeah, they are knocking off shepherd fairey's work...

However I like the image.

[JVS]

23. zOMG! Teh Evilzz! Personality Cult!!! SuXXorz!

[kenny blankenship]

24. Here's an original. don't know if it is the one you're thinking of:

[Aloha Spirit]

35. almost... I think the one I'm thinking of is a pop art thing, not an original chiniese commy poster.

[zulchzulu]

28. Here's one...

http://imgplace.com/image/view/1a333cddba7105ed95ed79caaf59dbc5

[Aloha Spirit]

33. That's pretty good! Looks like the McCain font tho. Not very socialist... ;-)

[bhikkhu]

31. They're all ripping off Akhnaten

[Indenturedebtor]

40. Lol

Actually I think that's from McCains original run for office. I think the reward back then was eternal preservation, which is how he's still around :P

My wife has a sun tatoo on her belly. I keep joking with her about how when we start having kids she's going to go supernova on me... for some reason the side of my face hurts alot :shrug:

Yeah this old imagery stuff is used by every political party. It's almost like criticizing a politician for giving a good speech. It's their job to inspire people to get off their asses and do things.

[Aloha Spirit]

41. Haha will I go to hell for laughing at McCain being old? He is the highlander, you know that, right?

[crankychatter]

32. it's from the Tibetan Flag

jeebus... scrap scrape scrape

[Aloha Spirit]

34. Nah... I swear I've seen almost the same exact poster except with Mao's profile, still can't find it

[Occam Bandage]

36. Something like on here?

Or perhaps

[Aloha Spirit]

38. Yep kinda like the lighter one. Man this is bugging me that I can't find the original on google.

[charlie]

39. ...

[Aloha Spirit]

42. OKay you win. This thread cannot possibly get better.

[cemaphonic]

43. Now we need an "Obama has a posse" poster.

[Aloha Spirit]

47. google "obama has a posse" results

[anonymous171]

45. omg cult!

[Aloha Spirit]

51. Okay, this is the closest I have found to what I'm looking for, but it's not the

original reference.

Ha.

[Aloha Spirit]

52. A little gift I made for everybody who's been reading this thread....