TPM: Clinton: All the Way to Denver ("It's about FL and MI. Period.")

[antigop]

<edit to add for clarity> The quote in the OP is from TPM, not HRC.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/186346.php

Sen. Clinton gave a pretty astonishing interview to the Washington Post in which she appears to say she will stay in the race till the convention in August, where she will take her fight to the credentials committee to have the delegates from the non-sanctioned Michigan and Florida primaries seated.

The convention of course starts on August 25th, roughly five months from now.

The key quote from the interview is this one: "I know there are some people who want to shut this down and I think they are wrong. I have no intention of stopping until we finish what we started and until we see what happens in the next 10 contests and until we resolve Florida and Michigan. And if we don't resolve it, we'll resolve it at the convention -- that's what credentials committees are for."

So she's promising to remain in the race at least until June 3rd when the final contests are held in Montana and South Dakota and until Florida and Michigan are 'resolved'. Now, that can have no other meaning than resolved on terms the Clinton campaign finds acceptable. It can't mean anything else since, of course, at least officially, for the Democratic National Committee, it is resolved. The penalty was the resolution.
...
By saying she'll continue through the remaining ten contests, regardless of the outcome, and implicitly, I take it, regardless of any superdelegate declarations over the next two months, Sen. Clinton is saying it's no longer about pledged delegates, or superdelegates or popular votes. It's about Florida and Michigan. Period.

[mmonk]

1. Unfortunately, that won't be democracy in a real sense.

Florida and Michigan will be seated, just not a skewed sitting due to their parties recklessness like the Clintons want for their advantage.

[BeyondGeography]

2. The hostage crisis will continue indefinitely

[babylonsister]

4. That graphic is great-in a sick kind of way! nt

[Window]

9. LMAO! Good one.

:rofl:

[City Lights]

12. I *love* that! I snagged it myself when it was originally posted here.

It's perfect!

[BeyondGeography]

3. Double post

[angie_love]

5. that would be funny if it weren't so sad.

I guess she doesn't care about our party after all.

[BeyondGeography]

8. The cartoonists are catching on

[goldcanyonaz]

6. YAY!!!

[HereSince1628]

7. When the money behind her campaign dries up she will stop.

[4themind]

10. If that happens, the party is F&*@ked

regardless of who comes out of the convention very possibly, and I fear not just for this election, but for many years to come(if there's a racial/gender split within the party)
Can someone set the alarm clock to 2012 please. Myabe the moderator wakemeupwhatitsover can do it
Thanks











P.S. More realistically this is perhaps a ploy to either (and maybe among other things):
1.)Scare superdelegates and leadership into reviving VEEP talks

2.)Push for a firehouse primary, party run style revote in michigan and perhaps florida (reeealy wouldn't bet much on this happening)

3.)Needs time to resolve some campaign debts (not sure about this one because it seems they could have been settled already if not for allocation of those resources to keep fighting in the race)

4.)Provide a way to exit "gracefully" relatively due to the fact that she would have changed expectations of her to drop out due to delegate math to a -bitter-fight-to-the-end. This would also end all "drop out early" talk (this is my uneducated prediction)

5.)In fact have a bitter-fight-to-the-end which again the recent record on success in these situations is far less than even (although there are some other mitigating factors in each of those cases.Having a little over a month to unify our party before debate season starts. In that case we could lose the presidency (perhaps the house and senate from a demoralized base),risk a shifting of the supreme court for perhaps several presidential terms (i.e. if Stevens doesn't make it), and risk fracturing the racial/gender/age coalition for a generation.

[City Lights]

11. Her concern about FL and MI would be admirable, had this been her

position all along. But she didn't give a hoot about either state until she realized she needed the delegates from both in order to creep closer to Obama. Her fake concern/outrage has been noted.

[UALRBSofL]

13. Hillary is standing up for people like me of MI/FL

Because we want our votes counted. This will be a big debate as the candidates go into the convention.

[tyne]

14. The delegates

will be seated. And, Hillary is not standing up for people like you. She has STATED that she does not want a revote of any kind in Florida. Doesn't matter what she says now.

She just wants...well....this. What she's got right now. A platform to try and convince the people that she's just looking out for the people. Bullshiite.

Just three short weeks ago...

"Further explaining her opposition to the caucus solution, Clinton said, "A lot of people would be disenfranchised because of the timing and whatever the particular rules were. This is really going to be a serious challenge for the Democratic Party because the voters in Michigan and Florida are the ones being hurt, and certainly with respect to Florida the Democrats were dragged into doing what they did by a Republican governor and a Republican Legislature. They didn't have any choice whatsoever. And I don't think that there should be any do-over or any kind of a second run in Florida. I think Florida should be seated."
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-2008/2008/03/07/clinton-says-no-to-a-caucus-do-over.html