KO and His Special Comment

[Rockholm]

I have been a great fan of KO and his show for the past couple of years. It has been the only show i watch a 8:00pm (except for Survivor and all Red Sox games during baseball season).
The way he has taken on the * administration has been fucking awesome. Finally, someone who shines light on the Dark Side.
Now, with his Obama Fascination, it has been hard to watch the show for the last few months. Tonight, I feel that it could just do it for. The show's tone tonight is sullen and gloomy. He knows what is coming tonight in his Special Comment. It sounds as if he is going to go for Hillary's jugular. Do I watch? Do I just read the follow up comments here?
My hunch is that KO knows he could lose a huge portion of his viewership tonight. He could lose me.
I know my post will be mocked and belittled by the Obama supporters her. I don't really care.

[BlueIdaho]

1. Please...

Review the term projection in the nearest psychology textbook.

[Rockholm]

13. My first ignore.

[BlueIdaho]

23. Gee

I guess you really DO care...

[roguevalley]

53. come back in 2000 posts, blueidaho. Feb. 2008 looks bad on you.

[Tellurian]

51. Yes, I agree with you. Olberman's fierce commentary was way over the TOP!

I finally had to mute the tv because I couldn't stand that sob lecturing the masses on what we already know about Geraldine Ferraro and castigating Sen Clinton.. Keith baby.. you can be gone in a heartbeat. Don't listen to your minions just once reading your prewritten prepared script.. and you'll be pink slipped quicker than you can say:
"Don Imus, said what?" twice!

[jenmito]

55. It was accurate and obviously heart-felt. It obviously pained him to have to say it, but he

HAD to say it FOR HER OWN GOOD and for the good of the PARTY and COUNTRY! All of a sudden you mock his special comments as "prewritten prepared scripts"? How do you feel about his special comments about Bush???

[trayfoot]

58. Puleeeeze........

Give us a break! LOLOL!

[jenmito]

60. No break for you!

[Tellurian]

59. I don't care what he says about Bush but he's jumping the shark lecturing Hillary..

and I resent him clogging up the airwaves with his retched demeaning voice, wasting time reading some RW self-righteous pap engineered in some politico writer's smoke filled basement..and why I muted him=ignore!

[jenmito]

61. So now he's RW just because he's telling it like it is and your candidate is the subject this time?

Sorry-selective outrage doesn't fly.

[Tellurian]

72. He's not telling anything like it is... He's telling his version..

[Nedsdag]

70. AWWWWW!!!! POOR BABY!!!!!!!!!

That bad man Keith is picking on Little Miss Hillary!

BOO-EFFIN-HOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grow up, Tellurian! Better yet, go back to Hillaryis44.com and cry on the Hillbot's shoulders there.

[LisaM]

2. Or maybe it's part of his schtick......

Or maybe he's even gotten sick of himself. He was better before he got so conceited. Once he became the main anchor on the MSNBC coverage, he kind of get a swelled head about it.

[madmunchie]

3. Aren't you supposed to put your socks on before your shoes?

[babylonsister]

4. He's still shining the light; you don't like the direction it's pointed at.

He's not lying; people's actions and intentions can have consequences. If Clinton didn't seem to ask for it constantly, he wouldn't have anything to work with.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

39. How are you feeling about that question you asked bigtree?

People's actions and intentions can have consequences.

[azmouse]

5. All of you KO bashers sound like whining babies.

Grow up.

[Speck Tater]

17. They're taking lessons from BillO. NT

[Auntie Bush]

54. And what would you be whining about if he attacked Obama like that?

Don't tell me you wouldn't be attacking KO as much as everyone here attacks Hillary.

[azmouse]

75. I don't think he's attacked Hillary.

He's only told the truth and you can't stand it. You don't want to see what she's doing to the Dem chances in Nov. Take off your blinders and stop hating those who do not agree with you.

[Auntie Bush]

78. I have my glasses on and I hear pretty well.

I hear the distortions, exaggerations, faux on purpose outrage and lies by the Obama people just looking to find something to attack Hillary for...all seen through the eyes of someone who is looking for prejudice.

If you listen to all that Geraldine said...several paragraphs...you'll see she was complaining about the bias media and their unfair positive coverage of (can do no wrong) Obama. Everyone is AFRAID to criticize anything he does for fear of being called racist. They're the ones who are playing the race card.

In spite of that...I don't hate anyone! I dislike your intolerant campaign methods.

[Raine]

6. The truth hurts

when it's focused in the direction it needs to be.

[Freida5]

7. Boycott NBC Olympic coverage!!!!

[Speck Tater]

8. K.O.'s big problem is that he relentlessly exposes bullshit.

Everybody loves that. Or at least they love it until it's THEIR bullshit that's being exposed. Then they turn on him.

K.O. has not changed his approach. It's just a case of people who can dish it out to their opponents, but can't take the same treatment when it's aimed at their own personal sacred cows.

I say this as someone who has not yet decided who to vote for, so I have no ax to grind either way.

[NDambi]

22. B-I-N-G-O

[Birthmark]

47. Actually, he has changed.

I gave him up long before the primaries started. I think it was November. I was watching one night and the entire first half-hour (or at least most of it) was him talking about himself. I turned it off and haven't gone back since. So I have no opinion of his show since then, but he has definitely changed.

I'm just glad that Jon Stewart appears to know how to handle success.

[Hepburn]

76. Exactly!

KO goes after people for doing crap and being dishonest. He has a history of that with Bush, etc. So...why would he change his MO all of a sudden?

What the Hillary supporters are saying makes NO sense. KO has never operated like that in the past...so what he is saying now about Hillary is what needs to be said.

JMHO

[polichick]

9. Why not give some thought to the awful things coming out of your candidate's campaign...

He IS shining a light, as he has with Bush & Co. ~ why not look at what he is illuminating???

[annie1]

10. never liked him, he's an egotistical tool.

[opihimoimoi]

11. Overall, I happen to feel/think KO is quite Objective and Ballanced.He usually goes for what's right

and balanced with a tilt toward Truth.....

[ruggerson]

12. turn it off, that's what our family did

[LakeSamish706]

14. Don't let the door hit ya on the way out! n/t

[washingdem]

15. Why don't we see what he actually says first before you decide he's wrong.

[LakeSamish706]

21. Because for Hillarybotts... They already know that it is not going to be positive! n/t

[Rockholm]

25. I am going to watch it, Obamabot.

[Bright Eyes]

16. Where would your outrage be if the Special Comment were about Obama?

I'm guessing you'd applaud it.

Selective outrage is amazing, no?

[Rockholm]

28. Absolutely Not.

He needs to stick with going after the RW.

[Bright Eyes]

40. Olbermann should be going after ANYONE

Who acts like Clinton has. Having a (D) next to you name doesn't mean you can't be criticized, you know.

[DearAbby]

62. We don't need a Democratic Propaganda machine....

I would hope that if anyone in our party does anything that was wrong...those in the media would call them on it, as we would if anyone in the GOP had. We dont need to wear blinders, we are the adults, remember?

I hope you are, KO has been there during our darkest times in the past few years. He was the only voice out there calling the bullshit for what it was.

This hasn't changed.

[Hepburn]

77. Well....

...in going after Hillary, he did go after Bush Lite...so as far as I am concerned, KO did go after the RW with his Hillary Special Comment.

[otohara]

80. If A Obama Surrogate Said Clinton Was Lucky Because of Gender

and Obama said nothing, nothing, nothing, after said surrogate said this many times, I would hope KO would have offered the same spanking to Obama camp.

Ferraro needed to be silenced - her mouth is making it worse for both Clinton & Obama, and our chances in November.

[Exilednight]

18. Part of your comment stands out.....

You say "My hunch is that KO knows he could lose a huge portion of his viewership tonight."

Just something to think about, but have you ever thought that doing the right thing is not always doing the popular thing?

[BeyondGeography]

19. Red Sox fan? How do you like rooting for the political equivalent of the Yankees?

[Rockholm]

29. What?

[BeyondGeography]

32. Let us count the ways

The Clintons have already won enough
They spend money like drunken sailors and get relatively little in return
They rely on brute force to get their way
They play for the big states, the political equivalent of being overly dependent on the home run ball
They make up the rules as they go along

More?

[Rockholm]

36. Then Obama would be the KC Royals.

Young and inexperienced.

[BeyondGeography]

38. The 2004 Red Sox is more like it

get ready to meet your fate, rockholm.

[Rockholm]

42. Please do not compare Obama to the Red Sox.

[BeyondGeography]

43. Nobody gave him a chance, but he outplayed the bigger, slower, dumber, meaner favored team

Go ahead, keep rooting for the Yankees.

[Rockholm]

46. I hate the Yankees, thank you.

[BeyondGeography]

50. And now you ARE the Yankees

[Rockholm]

63. Don't think so. Sorry.

Boston Red Sox. I don't equate them with ANY candidate. They are in a league of their own.
Now, since you are from NY, are you a Yankees fan or Mets?

[JTG of the PRB]

20. I don't think he'll go after Hillary so much, but after Ferraro.

I know he'll hit Hillary hard, but I don't think she's the main target tonight. Ferraro is for her comments and her continued defense of what she said. I don't necessarily think she's racist; I just think she's a little ignorant in this respect. KO will surely hit Hillary for allowing Ferraro to stay on with her campaign for so long, but I don't think she's the one with the bull's eye tonight.

[JTG of the PRB]

26. Well, I think I might have gotten that one wrong, at least so far!

[Catherine Vincent]

24. His comment is on now.

Kind of moot now that Ferraro stepped down.

[AlCzervik]

27. he is right, her people are killing her campaign. I like Hillary, ok, but i support Obama

and starting with Billy Sheehan i think it just started to snowball.

[Rockholm]

35. Well, just watched the Special Comment.

He was right in that her advisers are killing her campaign.

[AlCzervik]

37. it's a shame and i mean that sincerely. I really do not care for that crew at all.

I think she deserves better and she had the power to make that happen and thats the really sad part. An yhow, like i said i support Obama and i'm not gonna hate on Clinton, she doesn't make me crazy, she's just not my first choice.

[Rockholm]

45. She does deserve better.

Kerry had horrible advisers in 2004. They destroyed his campaign. Campaigns are about people. Obama has a very good group of advisers.

[karmicglee]

56. campaign employees can ruin an election for the candidate

It think campaign bosses and the likes should measure their words better. Sometimes Obama or Clinton try to be as judicious as possible but one of their close allies says something inappropriate, and damage is done.

[Fox Mulder]

30. So...you don't like Keith because he's telling the truth?

Please. :eyes:

[JBoy]

31. I'm loving the anxious anticipation of the Hillary supporters.

Getting the heads up from Keith is like being told "wait till your father gets home". Now all they are sitting and stewing about the scolding that may be coming their way, and talk about how unfair it is. Funny, since they had no problem taking pleasure when it was their siblings getting the scolding.

[NewHampster]

33. I stopped watching months ago

[slinkerwink]

34. thank you, Keith!

[karmicglee]

64. I thought Keith\'s comments were accurate and insightful

I enjoy watching him every night. He\'s not only smart but funny and spicy.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

41. KO's bias has been well-established by now.

When you lose objectivity, you lose credibility. Sadly, he's just another 'pundit' now.

[otohara]

82. Mocking, Muslim Remark, Just a Speech, Red Phone, McCain

tactics have turned many off. I was so happy with both of our candidates, but lately, one has disappointed me terribly. I know I'm not alone in this thinking, she has clearly crossed the line lately, many are not happy.

[loveangelc]

44. I HOPE SUPERDELEGATES WATCHED.

[Auntie Bush]

71. That's why he made his special comment. He's trying to influence the election.

He should have remained neutral and saved his fire and anger for the Republicans...the ones who deserve it.
He also did it NOW to influence the PA Democrats and turn them off from Clinton. Democrats are all listening to him...the only program we have and he'd placed himself in the middle...that's no right! That was a sickening segment if I ever saw one and I no longer have any respect for Keith's opinion now that I know how bias and exaggerated he really is. I will forever take what he says with a grain of salt...if and when I watch him.

[Utopian Leftist]

48. Keith's ratings

Fortunately for Keith, the kind of progressives who watch his show are not at all like the rabid Hillary Hacks here who are incapable of recognizing any fact that doesn't support their heroine.

He's not in any danger of losing ratings over this.

[Rockholm]

69. "Rabid Hillary Hacks?" Gee Mr. 40 posts, Go Away.

[Johnny__Motown]

49. sorry, you are now on the Dark Side, deal with it.

[Barack_America]

52. Though I agreed with the content...

I thought it was overly dramatic. But he is a bit of a showman.

[trayfoot]

57. I, too, have been a KO supporter in the past......

but I am sick of the sexism of the media (to which he has contributed). I am disappointed in his special comment tonight. I am disappointed that so many, including Keith, have not recognized that Obama has played the race card profusely! Dirty tactics are not solely owned by the Clinton campaign - but also by the Obama campaign. When people tag GF and the Clintons as racist, they are speaking out their asses cause their mouths know better. My candidate was Edwards, so I am not a Clinton supporter nor an Obama supporter. I just want the dems to win in November. However, the way BOTH campaigns have been waged, I may not vote for the first time in my eligible voting life! When KO can give a Special Comment about the atrocities of the Obama campaign, I may watch him again. Until then, he can't count me in his statistics to beat Faux News!

[trueblue2007]

65. He lost me

HIS COMMENTS TONIGHT WERE HIDEOUS. MSNBC lost a view. Dan Abrams is far more even handed. He doesn't go for the jugular.


I'm a Keith hater now.

[Upton]

66. Take off your blinders for a minute, Did you ever think he might be right?

[scheming daemons]

67. If he lost you, it's because you are more interested in defending Hillary than in defending truth...

KO didn't move away from you.... you moved away from KO.

[Guava Jelly]

68. it is up now

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/

[BigBearJohn]

73. KO starts out by saying HRC & WJC stood by him when he needed them. Then stabs HRC in the back.

Gee what a great guy.
They stand by him while he's being attacked.
How does he repay them? He shits all over them.
Nice guy.

[otohara]

79. When "He" Needed Them???

sounds to me like they reached out to him and thanked him for his cajones to speak truth to power.

HRC did not handle this well, that's the premise of what he said. Do you think she handled this well? Having Geraldine running around not just once but many times preaching her "he's black" meme is okay with you? KO would have done the same if someone in the Obama camp would have been running around saying she wouldn't be doing so well, if it weren't for her gender.

[BigBearJohn]

85. You didn't listen to his intro to the piece.

Edit, to add transcript:

Keith: "By way of necessary preface, President and Senator Clinton -- and the Senator's mother, and the Senator's brother -- were of immeasurable support to me at the moments when these very commentaries were the focus of the most surprise, the most uncertainty, and the most anger. My gratitude to them is abiding."

Like I said, this is his way of showing gratitude?
With friends like him, who needs enemies?

[housewolf]

84. BigBearJohn, If you see someone in the process of self-destructing

hurting themselves and their associates, is it "stabbing them in the back" to express your considered opinion about their behavior?

THAT's what KO was doing last night. He's trying to tell her that her campaign tactics are harmful to the party and beneath her.

[BigBearJohn]

86. He didn't have to humiliate her in public.

[MadHound]

74. I think that actually Olberman did his comment in a spirit of grace and friendship

He didn't "go for the jugular", instead he came across as a friend leading an intervention for another friend. But sadly, deep in their own partisan blindness, Hillary supporters will fail to see this, even as they continue to agree with Ferraro's racist remarks(and yes, they are doing that, there's a thread around here where the OP finds themself agreeing with Pat Buchanan of all people:puke:)

[Auntie Bush]

81. I wrote KO a Dear John letter late last night and I plan on writing

a few more to MSNBC. They won't be fan mails. I hope everyone will write to KO and MSNBC and complain that he is unfairly using his popularity in the Dem party to influence the election and further divide us. I'm absolutely outraged at his hostility and nasty mouth toward Geraldine. I'll not be watching him anymore. I've totally lost all faith in Keith's judgment and ability to report in an objective manor. He's become a left wing BillO. That's not pretty.

[azmouse]

83. I've written to KO praising him for telling the truth

even to the Hillary supporters who would rather stick their fingers in their ears instead of hearing the truth.
He's a true American patriot.