Would someone please post links where Keith Olbermann is being sexist towards Ms. Clinton

[helderheid]

I have yet to witness it and people I know and care about on this board are telling me KO has been sexist towards Hillary Clinton. Could someone help me out with links to such video?

I've not been watching KO regularly for awhile - not because of the content, simply too tired while working on a new business. I've seen him harsh with her campaign, saying the same things I've said about her campaign (this coming from the woman I am). I have yet to witness sexism from him.

This is a genuine request. I am upset to hear from people I care about on this board that Keith has been sexist and I need to know first hand.

Thanks!

ETA - Please don't turn this into a Hillary bashing thread - it's an honest question. Thanks!

[backscatter712]

1. Cue chirping crickets... n/t

[helderheid]

122. .

[K Gardner]

2. I thought you knew .. anyone who disagrees with anything any Clinton or surrogate does is sexist.

[progdonkey]

9. beat me to it!

:toast:

[Beacool]

95. Just like Obama and his camp cry "racist" when anybody questions him on anything.

:shrug:

[Beacool]

97. I for one, never called KO sexist, to me he's just a pompous ass

who loves to hear the sound of his voice.

Ditto for most pundits, particularly the ones at MSNBC.

:thumbsdown:

[Kittycat]

3. I've not seen it, and we never miss KO.

[anonymous171]

4. He's being hard on her, but not sexist.

I don't see how anyone could construe sexism from his commentary.

[Independent-Voter]

7. Yep

[Yes We Did]

119. She deserves it.

[fight4my3sons]

5. I agree that he is being hard on her, but not sexist.

We watch most nights.

[JerseygirlCT]

55. Park me here, too. nt

[joeprogressive]

126. "Hard on her" You sexist pig.

What are you going to say next, that HRC is frustrated?

Sorry, being sarcastic :)

[AtomicKitten]

6. Simply reporting on Obama's wins is construed as sexist and therefore mean to Hillary.

:cry:

[helderheid]

8. Love the sig pic!

[AtomicKitten]

15. *

:hi:

[fairyforest]

123. i can't spot the sexism

I see them as bogus charges against Olberman. He raised legitimate questions.

[ProSense]

10. Well, there is Bart Simpson ass and something about a daughter watching tonight's commentary, but

haven't seen anything rational!

[DearAbby]

11. Kicking for an answer....

:kick:

[Political Heretic]

12. They don't have any. He is biased in that he is strongly critical of clintons campaign

He is not neutral. But he isn't sexist.

Criticism <> sexism. They just don't like the fact that he's not neutral about it. He doesn't like the Clinton campaign as it has been run this year.

I don't either.

[SeaLyons]

106. He can be critical

but when he stepped over the line and was blatantly biased against the Clinton's, he should have discontinued his "good night and good luck" bullshit. He's no Edward R. Murrow....

http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=27216

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

13. The silence is deafening. KO is no sexist. Truthteller yes, sexist no.

[blm]

14. They won't admit that the ONLY reason KO started on HRC was AFTER she played the FEAR CARD which

just happens to be one of his biggest peeves against Bush the last 5 years.

Hillary camp should have warned her they would lose Olbermann's respect by using that card.

[izzybeans]

16. He critiqued her so he hates women. Is an Obamabot/kin/baby/whatever

He must be destroyed at all cost.

Didn't you know?

[scheming daemons]

17. Kick for an answer

[americanstranger]

18. They don't exist, HH.

I've never seen any - although some claim that KO is a big-time sexist because, well, he's a man.

- as

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

19. K & R - Id also like to see an answer..

Just so I know what I am and am not allowed to criticize

[Recursion]

20. Still waiting (nt)

[Norwood]

21. Thank you for this thread! Still waiting!

[InsultComicDog]

22. must have been when he called her a feminazi

oh wait no he didn't. Never mind.

[smiley_glad_hands]

23. K & R. eom

[elehhhhna]

24. He bashes COndi all the time. Where was the sexist outrage then? lmao

[Greyskye]

25. Here

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Nonviral_video.html">here

[anonymous171]

26. AHAHHFSDADHG MY EARS!

:rofl:

[SoonerPride]

60. Still no sexism from KO. Just mad because he speaks truth to power.

Hypocrites

[helderheid]

31. ACK!!

[CTLawGuy]

53. argh

that wasn't a rick roll.... grr

[Greyskye]

94. .

heh heh heh, excellent....

[JVS]

100. no

it's called a hillaroll

[machiado]

74. Nooooo! Stop the torture, please!!!

Worst video ever.

[Exilednight]

93. I hope she didn't spend her $5 million campaign loan on making that video.

[JVS]

98. Awsome!

You Hillarolled GD:P

[Greyskye]

102. My life is now complete.

:evilgrin:

[jillan]

27. just google it - you will find plenty.

[Occam Bandage]

29. Can you think of any examples?

[johnaries]

33. I googled it. Nada.

I did find a post on C&L with a video of Olbermann telling Matthews he needed to "distance himself" before he got a little sexist.

Otherwise - no luck. What keywords are you using?

[Greyskye]

40. By Jove - I found something after all!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-hvNVRvUGQ






Oh - wait - that's KO calling out Huckabee for patently sexist comments. "A wife is to submit herself graciously to the servant leadership of her husband."

I just can't seem to find these sexist KO clips. The MSM must be scrubbing them off the servers. Yeah, that's the ticket!

[CTLawGuy]

54. just google flat earth

and you'll find out that the earth is flat...



NEEEXXXXT!!!!

[Occam Bandage]

28. He's neither praising nor defending her race-baiting. That is sexist in the eyes of some here.

[bigbrother05]

30. I'm still waiting, I just don't see it

[bain_sidhe]

32. "Please don't turn this into a Hillary bashing thread"

Seems like the responders didn't read that line, huh? Then againk *every* thread seems to turn into a Hillary Bashing thread, so you were going all King Canute with that request anyway.

For me, I'm not sure whether he's sexist or not. I'm sure he's anti-Hillary, but I don't think that I can point to anything that would, in my mind, constitute a sexist attack. I suspect he may harbor some latent sexism, one, because he came out of sportscasting, and there is a lot of sexism in that particular field, and two, because my... well, what would be the equivalent of "gaydar" for a feminist? "Femdar"? Just a sense of picking up "cues" from watching how he relates to his female guests (and the fact that he has far fewer of them than male guests). But if it's there - and I'm not saying I know for sure that it is, just a "feeling" - I don't think he's given it voice. It could *influence* his opinion of Hillary, if it's there, but it's not evident in his criticism of her, IMHO.

No, I think the cries of "SEXISM!" are more a function of his unrelenting criticism being seen as biased. And it is, but it's biased against Hillary, and perhaps the Clintons, not her gender per se. But you can't "unfairly" take down the first viable female candidate for President without inflicting a perceived harm to women, in general, because Hillary --whatever her faults-- can't help but be a symbol of women's advancement - or lack of it.

JMHO. YMMV.

[helderheid]

34. thank you for your thoughtful response.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

36. He's sexist because he came from sportscasting?

Hmm.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

38. Yup...

I never heard a PEEP out of him when Imus was trashing that women's basketball team for being "nappy headed hoes." Nothing. Nada. Zip.













Just kidding! :D

KO led the charge against Imus for that!

[bain_sidhe]

39. Yeah but

he mostly was criticizing the racism, not the sexism. And to the poster above you, I didn't say he was sexist because he came out of sportscasting, just noted my own personal FEELING that he may harbor some latent sexism, and pointed to his sportscaster background, along with the fact that I've seen a lot of sexism in sportscasters, as possible factors in that FEELING. There are other factors that contribute to that feeling as well, but his criticism of Hillary isn't one of them.

[TheWraith]

35. Kicking and recommending. There's no evidence. nt

[helderheid]

42. What disturbs me terribly is some who are accusing him of sexism I feel so close to ....

I feel like I'm missing something, hence this thread. I trust their judgment.

[mtnsnake]

120. You wouldn't know Wraith since you're responsible for some of the most sexist comments on this board

that I've ever read.

[Greyskye]

37. Error: You've already recommended that thread.

Rats. :(

[helderheid]

41. thanks!

:hi:

[stevenleser]

43. We're on the third generation of crickets already.

Kicked and Recommended.

[helderheid]

44. I truly wasn't out to prove a point - I really wanted to see what they were talking about...

I am grateful nothing has come up but also sad there is such bad blood.

[stevenleser]

46. Agreed and agreed...

The reality is, whether it is a primary, or any other contest, the longer the obvious loser hangs around, the uglier it is going to be. Hillary really has been the obvious loser since February 5th. As a result of her hanging around, she and her supporters have been going increasingly negative on Obama and his supporters and of course, we respond in kind, not wanting us or our candidate to be punching bags. It is going to keep getting uglier. Hillary has lost and does not want to let go.

[AlCzervik]

45. i haven't seen that at all.

[pdxmom]

47. I watch him every single night. I'm a woman. I've seen no sexist comments

or attitude toward Hillary.

I've seen some on here mention the age of his girlfriend and the stories he does on Brittany in their arguments that he's sexist, but nope, I still don't see anything that says sexist to me.

[helderheid]

48. 40 + replies and nothing so far.

[pdxmom]

49. Maybe you're just on a lot of ignore lists? Or they have nothing? It's

gotta be one or the other.

:shrug:

[helderheid]

50. yep

[mod mom]

64. I'm a woman and also have NEVER heard it. He is respectful to the women he has had on his show

Monica (Russian sounding last name-who i believe left to have a baby), Allison, Rachel Maddow, Maria (he jokes about that talent show on Faux).

Perhaps it's about Ann Coulter-but he/she deserves ridicule and disdain

[helderheid]

75. THANKS

From one woman to another

[Catherina]

51. 4 hours later and still no link?

Weird.

[helderheid]

52. Here's the only Hillary Clinton link I could find

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5039761&mesg_id=5039761

[DarienComp]

56. It's sexist of you to demand examples of sexism from KO.

The fact that you don't see evidence of sexism proves you're sexist.

:sarcasm:

[helderheid]

59. Oh I am FUCKED!

:rofl:

[Catherina]

70. That proves the exact opposite.

6 hours later now. Still nothing? :shrug:

Color me shocked ;)

[ZombieHorde]

57. Kick for a link.

I don't like false accusations of bigotry.

[Norwood]

58. Kick and STILL waiting for an example!

[kwenu]

61. Damn! I think the crickets got tired of chirping and left!!!!!!!!! Anything? Anybody?????

[AZBlue]

62. Even his Special Comment tonight was nothing but polite and civil.

He's actually trying to help her and make her see the light. I think it's a waste of time, unfortunately, but I give him points for trying!

[SunsetDreams]

63. I watch KO all the time

I have never seen anything sexist, only criticism of her as a politician.

[helderheid]

77. k

[Umbram]

65. Kick for an answer. . . (nt)

[Hieronymus]

66. Excellent post and follow-ups. Keith comes out clean, as expected.

[alteredstate]

67. Nothing on KO

and I'm still trying to find out why Ferraro accused Obama of attacking her.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5048769

[Lucinda]

68. Maybe they have you on ignore?

I can't help. Haven't watched Olbermann in a while.
He's fond of calling her a fearmonger, but I don't recall any sexist remarks.

[Colobo]

72. Watch his Special Comment on Hillary. It was great.

[helderheid]

76. quite possible as I am obnoxious to the extreme ;)

[quakerboy]

69. interesting. n/t

[malik flavors]

71. Wow! Not a single example. I guess this puts that to rest.

[Umbram]

73. *blink* *blink* *blink* *blink* nt.

[Norwood]

78. We need to keep this kicked, I want an example dammit!

Every time someone cries sexism because Hillary is criticized they need to be directed to this thread.

[helderheid]

79. still nada

[intaglio]

80. It's too quiet I tell you,

can't you hear the drums? Those damn drums! They're out there waiting for us; waiting for us to let down our guard, to sleep. Carruthers, can't you do something about those drums? They're driving me mad! and all we can do is wait, wait while the drums beat ..."

[Umbram]

81. The sun's up, a new day has begun, and still nada. (nt)

[helderheid]

82. Morning :)

[elixir]

83. Senator Clinton, please.

[helderheid]

84. Senator Clinton

[Greyskye]

85. Bookmarking this thread

So the next time that someone pulls out this evidently ridiculous canard, I can simply point, here.

[helderheid]

101. this has been facinating.

[azmouse]

86. It looks like a safe bet that there are NO sexist comments from KO.

Just more desperate delusion from Hillary supporters.

[boston bean]

87. His non concern for proven sexist remarks is proof enough. nt

[helderheid]

88. what sexist remarks are you referring to?

[Greyskye]

96. Such as his non-concern to this sexist remark?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-hvNVRvUGQ

Yeah, that Keith Olbermann. He's so supportive of sexist remarks. :eyes:

Would you like to try that one again, MassDemm?

[mtnsnake]

89. People have already proven he's guilty of sexist remarks, but who said he's sexist towards Hillary?

Most complaints I've seen towards his sexism are just that he's sexist but not necessarily sexist towards Hillary. Why are you making this just about Hillary?

[helderheid]

91. As I said in the OP, I'm asking about Senator Clinton because people I love and care about on DU

have said he's been sexists towards Senator Clinton. I just wanted to see an example of that as I've not seen it.

[pdxmom]

110. Could you give me a link to those? I haven't seen them. Thanks.

[cooolandrew]

90. ...

[cooolandrew]

92. The new rules are if you say anyting against HRC it is sexist. Not a lot you can say to that.

[mmonk]

99. There isn't. Accusing people of sexism whether

they are expressing any sexism or not is part of their campaign strategy.

[JBoy]

103. Is he sexist now? Is he sexist now?

[Greyskye]

104. I thought you were calling out the KOEB.

I initially mis-read your subject as "Is he sexiest now? Is he sexiest now?"

:rofl:

[helderheid]

118. !!!

:rofl:

[SeaLyons]

105. Here's a link

http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=27216

[ContinentalOp]

107. So to summarize that article,

Olbermann is sexist for bringing up South Africa? I don't get that one.

And then he's sexist for focusing on the Clinton campaign's racism and ignoring the Obama campaign's sexism. Which apparently includes
- a Jesse Jackson Jr. remark in New Hampsire (not sure what he says, it doesn't specify)
- the words "hoodwink" and "okey doke" (!? wtf?)
- "threats" and robo calls against African American congressmen

Sorry but I'm not exactly seeing the evidence of Olbermann's sexism in any of this.

[pdxmom]

109. Evidently, because he DOESN'T say that Hillary has gotten to this point as

a major candidate because she's a woman, that's sexist.

Actually, I do see the sexism in that article, except it's against Keith and men in general. What is with these terms?

"can only see through his zipper"
" simple sportscaster"
"male cheerleaders"


Oh, and now evidently Eugene Robinson is a traitor and sexist.

[Norwood]

108. Still nobody can offer up any proof or examples of KO being sexist

I'm totally shocked! :sarcasm:

[ronnykmarshall]

111. He called her a heffa!

:hide:

[helderheid]

112. !!!!

:spray:

[femrap]

113. When he started spending more and more

time discussing young women celebrities such as Brittany and Lindsay...his words were cruel.

Anyone with a brain can see that Brittany has been conditioned/brainwashed from a young child to be a moneymaker using her looks and body in a seductive way. She's been taught that if she does this, she can make everyone a lot of money. Smile, be cute, don't eat too much, wear this, show more leg, etc.

No wonder she is imploding. She realizes she is nothing more than a piece of meat to our culture. Our society demands its T & A and when the woman gives it to them, she is then ridiculed unmercifully. How many of you would raise your daughter like Brittany has been raised????

KO doesn't like women. He's a cruel oaf. His ego is monstrous. He's just like all the other talking heads on TV who dislike women and ridicule them. To our culture, a woman has to be a Whore or a Madonna....that's the choice. No matter what a woman does, it's wrong. Think about that....OK, those with brains can think about it. The strictly-defined gender roles for women are suffocating.

Go ahead and suck on KO....just know what he'd like to say about your daughters.

And don't think I wasn't extremely disappointed when I saw this side of him...I had respected him so much prior to the sight of his cruel streak.

BTW, I emailed him about his sexism and the 3rd time, it was blocked. What a coward...he can shovel it out but can't take questions regarding his behavior...typical limpballs antics.

Hopefully I already have most non-brainers on Ignore...but I am willing to add to that list

[helderheid]

114. With all due respect, my OP didn't ask about him being sexist in general.

[femrap]

115. Maybe you can rent a brain

and then deal with topics in general.

Unbelievable. And the list gets longer...

[helderheid]

116. Jesus H. Christ. I asked a valid question. It's not my fault you can't answer it.

[Greyskye]

117. That's Jesus "Hussein" Christ, right?

[helderheid]

121. of course. My name is Helderheid Hussein Underground ;)

[helderheid]

127. I forgot to ask (probably due to my faulty brain) - what brain rental company would you recommend?

Thanks! :hi:

[Patsy Stone]

125. Keith hasn't accepted public e-mails for over a year.

Actually, almost two.

Don't flatter yourself.

[Norwood]

124. Kicked and still....waiting......