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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:48 AM Original message |
Hillary says she saw Martin Luther King but ended up working for Goldwater in 1964 |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
1. How far back should we go? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. If you are trying to fool people about your past, it's another thing |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. See Post #10. |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. yes, and Obama's whining about losing the last two contests |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #6 |
17. You have selectively fooled yourself--through you cheery-picking! |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
31. zuzu's pretending he doesn't know anything about Goldwater - don't spoil his game. |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. you mean zilch-information-zulu? |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
2. What about Obama's cocaine usage? |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Uh, I think SHE was the one who mentioned |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #8 |
25. Bingo! She admired Goldwater more than Martin Luther King |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Obama admitted honestly that he did drugs as a teen |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #9 |
24. Question--at what age (s) was Obama messing with drugs. Be specific please as you said 'teen'--then |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. teen? oh, nice college try at spin that was |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #27 |
47. Why diss my question?--It was the IP'er who said 'teen"- |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #47 |
56. no, I'm sorry |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #56 |
66. thanks. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Nice deflection from the OP topic... |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. You are one that wrote "teen"---now you run away from responding. Figures! |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #34 |
78. Again...Obama's admitted drug use has to do with Goldwater in 1964 in what way? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #78 |
83. you did not answer my question. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #2 |
37. Id rather she did coke. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
3. She worked against LBJ? Against the very man who made MLK's dream possible?! |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
4. and Obama was a coke-head who smoked pot |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. So you have no problem with Hillary's teen years fighting AGAINST civil rights for blacks? |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #12 |
20. No, I don't. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #20 |
62. I'm trying to stay out of these threads |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #62 |
85. Absolutely |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. you were never legitimate in my view, zilch-information-zulu |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #22 |
30. I find people like you that defend a flawed phoney re-writing her past pretty brainwashed |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Its posts such as yours that clearly illustrate Phoniness--(at best--I could add lots of |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #30 |
43. nope, just that you have nothing to offer for you candidate |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #43 |
82. Explain the virtues of Hillary supporting Goldwater who was against the Civil Rights Act |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
86. She was for civil rights and Goldwater |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
5. And Raygun signed MLK Jr. Day into law in 1983. |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
7. Just like you not to tell the whole story. |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. didn't she also make TIME magazine with her Wellesley speech |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Yep, But remember this is coming from someone who posts stuff like this. |
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desi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Don't dazzle "them" with the truth Billy |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #7 |
19. Did Hillary work for Goldwater in 1964 with the main platform of fighting against civil rights? |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. What was her age? |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #23 |
33. yes, the desperation IS that bad |
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desi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #19 |
36. Was Obama working for Raygun in the '80s? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Um... |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #41 |
52. Um... |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #19 |
39. She was 17 and you are being deceptive and cruel - she changed forever due to MLK: |
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desi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #19 |
48. Nope, you've yet to prove your ridiculous ASSumption/ASSertion |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #48 |
57. OK...so Hillary didnt' support Goldwater in 1964 after seeing MLK in 1963? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
11. I put this in the Crapola file |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #11 |
28. Another word the Obama file. NT |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #28 |
69. Not the Obama file. The rightwing smear Hillary freeper file. NT |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Isn't that the same thing? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #69 |
77. bingo. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #28 |
76. NO--and please do not make such insinuations. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
14. "who was on his side at that time?" |
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beberocks (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
18. This again? Some of the best leaders are people who have learned from the past. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
26. It's true, Hillary was born a Republican, but she changed forever in 1968 - 40 years ago |
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Metric System (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #26 |
49. She was born not just into a Republican household, |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #49 |
60. I think her story is amazing |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #49 |
65. Thanks, I did not know that. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
32. This is stupid. (nt) |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
38. She was a kid. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
42. > Rodham organized a two-day student strike and worked with Wellesley's black students --from # 10. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. zuzu just put you on ignore for posting that! |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. yes, that probably did happen--pea-brain at work. |
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ChazII (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
44. Interesting facts at Wikipedia and |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
45. The facts stand on their own. Hillaryworld apologists can't do anything else except attack the truth |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #45 |
50. "I don't give a rat's ass." Ah ha. So *that's* why you support Obama. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. How's Richardson doing, buddy? |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #53 |
63. He's not on DU making shit up to smear Hillary with - so he's better off than you! |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #45 |
54. So that fact that you are being deceptive in that MLK changed her for life is irrelevant? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Seeing MLK in 1963 changed her life so much that she worked for Goldwater in 1964 |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. She was 17 and from a white-bread Republican neighborhood |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #54 |
61. I doubt anyone will get an apology--Posts such as the IP are echoed by the RW chamber over and over. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #45 |
55. QUESTION-- how has she re-written hx--based on your claim below? Tell us. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #55 |
71. She gave a very similar speech in Selma a while back with the same phoney rhetoric |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #55 |
81. The two events were not related as anyone can clearly see. |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
58. God, how boring....she was a teenager... |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #58 |
67. Interesting historical facts, suston. Thanks! |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #58 |
68. "he opposed the much more comprehensive Civil Rights Act of 1964" |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Keep digging deeper |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #68 |
73. and some are not able to 'see' that people mature as they |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Yes people change...but phoneys never do |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #74 |
80. Garbage date in= garbage data OUT--such is my assesstment. |
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GalleryGod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
75. Well, Barry DID vote against the Civil Rights Act of 1964...but |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Nice graphic! n/t |
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GalleryGod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #79 |
84. Thanks! Got it from President Kennedy's Library. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #79 |
87. you know it`s a losing battle when people do not |
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