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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:30 AM
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Exit Polls: Obama would have received 73% of African American vote in Michigan.
Hillary Clinton faced a grim statistic in Michigan tonight, despite her primary "win" there: results revealed that she may have reason to worry about her grasp on the African-American vote.

The Michigan primary vote was essentially meaningless: the national party stripped the state of its delegates because it held its contest too early in the election season, and Clinton was the only major Democratic contender whose name appeared on the ballot.

Even so, roughly 70 percent of Michigan’s African-American voters — a group that makes up a quarter of Michigan’s Democratic electorate — did not cast their votes for Clinton, choosing the “uncommitted” option instead. Yet these voters weren’t uncommitted at all: in fact, according to CNN exit polls, they overwhelmingly favored Barack Obama, whose name did not appear on the ballot.

Had Obama’s name been on the Michigan ballot, CNN exit polls show that he would have won an overwhelming 73 percent of the African-American vote, in contrast to 22 percent who say they would have voted for Clinton under those circumstances. If South Carolina’s large African-American community votes as Michigan’s, Hillary may not be feeling much ‘southern hospitality’ in that state.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:32 AM
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1. He would have recieved 73% of some portion of the 40% uncommitted vote.
Still, that leaves him well below Hillary's threshold of victory.

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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:36 AM
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6. you leave out that the turnout was much lower than it would have been if the contest had counted
More Obama supporters would have shown if he was on a ballot and the contest was for actual delegates.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:40 AM
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7. Otherwise, they would have been bussed in, I'm sure. But the reality is the reality.
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 01:04 AM by Skip Intro


This isn't the land of if. Despite some Obama supporters' belief that reality is a convenience.

What happened happend.


edited to correct a misspelling after being alterted by a helpful duer
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:56 AM
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10. you know that DU has a spellcheck built in, don't you?
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:01 AM
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12. spelshek? wats at?
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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:03 AM
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13. The "reality" is she was the only 'name' on the ballot, and barely got
half the vote. (55%, as of midnight, CST.) And NO delegates.

I'd call that result a rousing Bronx Cheer, for the senator from NY.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:05 AM
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14. I'd call it over half the electorate saying Hillary, you're our girl
I mean, that is a pretty formidable number
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:33 AM
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2. i think it's understandable that black people want to see...
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 12:35 AM by annie1
a black person as president and that given the choice in this election, it's certainly something that could tip the scale for many. men in general aren't crazy over hillary, and (and i agree with this) i think it would be a very good thing for america to have a black president. i think it makes sense, and it's fine. they aren't going for edwards either. barack is a very good candidate, and personally, as a black person, i too would like to this happen as well. as it stands, i am for hillary, and think it sucks they are running at the same time. i would love to have black democratic president. very important. i don't think it's bad for her, i just think that's the way it goes.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:33 AM
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3. Clinton apparently received something like 60% of women voters as well
Interesting statistics.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:34 AM
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4. That goes to urban Centers Throughout the south
the North east and the Midwest.

He gets momentum coming out of SOuthCarolina the Black Voite will be out in huge numbers and it is going to be horse race all the way to the ballon drop in Denver.



The thin tha concerns me is th Obama being tagged as the Candidate for Black. He has to focus on the Exurbs and the college towns. But he can not simplytake the the black vote for granted. lest the "he's not black enough" charge resurface.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:35 AM
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5. Good to know.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:41 AM
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8. But Hillary would have won the state
so what's the point of this?
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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:56 AM
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9. She was running against "uncommited", Kucinich and Gravel.
And uncommited came uncomfortably close, on a bad weather voting day.

You can't call that a mulligan, it was more like an election in a dictatorship.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:58 AM
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11. lets just do a lil arithmetic here
as of now hrc has 330, 000 votes rounded off......non committed is 238,000 rounded off and all others are 23,000....

Well hell, do not get pissed at hillary for leaving her name on the ballot. Obama could have as well as edwards. And this number of 73% is kinda like bush saying he got 85% of the lation vote in texas in his last election as govenor, but there were less then 28,000 I believe that voted.....

so unless the 73% of the 238,000 were black(173,000voted), hrc did good considering all the wrong headed claims against her....

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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:14 AM
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15. The heading on this thread may be inaccurate, or misleading
The exit poll of voters who chose "uncommited" as their candidate, that I saw on MSNBC, showed seventy-some percent *overall* favored Obama, and only 17% favored Edwards. It wasn't broken down by ethnicity, or any other sub-category of voters.

In this primary, there were no delegates awarded to the "winner", and there was a distinct incentive for progressives to cross over to vote for a beatable/less awful Republican. (The dailyKos called for backing Romney.)
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:48 AM
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16. Woulda Coulda Shoulda
But now nobody is getting crap from Michigan and that goes for HRC as well. Only way I see her getting any delegates is if she wins it all and they allow Michigan to seat delegates in a show of party unity. Tough break for Barack. Good break for Edwards 'cause now he needs fewer delegates to win.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 12:04 AM
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17. kick! n/t
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:05 AM
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18. Those numbers may come down after the Obama Reagan comments. Blacks, rightfully, hated RR
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 01:07 AM
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19. Kinda doubt that, but nice try!...n/t
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