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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:54 AM Original message |
Am I the only one who feels our primary system is an elaborate hoax. |
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sharp_stick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
1. I hate the primary system |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
2. There's a lot wrong with our election system... |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I just mean a hoax in the context that it really doesn't accomplish what is commonly assumed. |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
3. I hate the primary system esp caucus |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Precisely. I read one of my children's social studies book recently... |
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Andy823 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
27. I don't like the caucus either |
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Lint Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
6. The candidates are decided before hand by the corporate media. |
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nancyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #6 |
23. My conclusion, too. |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. And that says it all right there. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. So, the evil corporatists picked John Edwards in 2004, but hate him in 2008? |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. If I'm not mistaken, didn't they pick Kerry before he picked Edwards? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. He was the subject of an enormous fawning media blitz after Iowa, remember? |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
7. I'd love to see us go to instant runoff voting around the country |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
8. I agree -- we should have "Primary Day," like Election Day |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
31. As a Clinton supporter, I bet you would. |
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ramapo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
9. The whole thing is a joke |
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Nordmadr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
51. You hit the nail on one of the biggest things that bother me. It is in |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
60. And you have to wonder why the media has got the Dems down to 3 and the repukes still have all. |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
10. "It would certainly be more honest if the DNC..." Don't you mean DLC? |
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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #10 |
19. DLC makes more sense in this OP |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
48. Actually, no. |
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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. I meant.. |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
11. It was all turned over to Republicans when Republicans bought our the networks. |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
61. The deal with the Devil. |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
12. Set up a one day vote. |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
13. I would prefer some kind of equal rotation system. |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. This is far more sensible. |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. A number of variations on what you are suggesting would be |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. As far as I can tell, your suggestion certainly make a lot more sense. |
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DaLittle Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
15. Nope! But It Is Close To it... |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
16. In my whole adult life, this will be the first Presidential primary I'll vote in that matters. |
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LynzM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
18. Yes, it's ridiculous. |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Well from what I'm being told... |
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China_cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
22. I don't know why they don't do away with both primaries |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Side question, but I'm always curious if the cost of conventions is worth the... |
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China_cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
46. I imagine it is. |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
26. I wouldn't describe the primary system as a "hoax" . But, I would |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #26 |
41. As I said above, it's a clumsy word and doesn't necessarily imply... |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. I see your logic and agree. Thanks. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
28. Would you recommend a national primary? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. That would, of course, make it *entirely* about money. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. How about a regional lottery? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. So long as there are two solitary states first, sure. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. do you mean ahead of the regions or two states within each region... and why? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Either way. Personally, I'd like to see |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. If all other factors remained the same, of course. |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. Not necessarily. As I said, the process would be a lot more honest if... |
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
32. Yea, but it is the only hoax in town. n/t |
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Steely_Dan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
33. No Argument Here n/t |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
34. It is NOT... |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
38. It completely sucks... |
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winston61 (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
40. Well, DUH! |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
49. People needed to be involved months ago |
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philly_bob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
50. Wasn't it a populist reform away from party bosses making decisions in ... |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
52. Combination of reforms |
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ThoughtCriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
53. It is a farce than cripples us |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
54. God I hope you are the only one |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Read my explanation of the word hoax above. |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
55. the whole system is a joke, but most people here on DU don't even want to change it significantly. n |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
58. You are not the only one. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
59. After today and voting in a meaningless primary, I entirely agree. |
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