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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:08 PM
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Poll: Obama losing the very important swing state of Ohio to McCain
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 05:15 PM by antiimperialist
Survey USA has come up with a poll matching Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama to several GOP'ers, and it's not looking good for our likely nominee in the very important state of Ohio.

Even after finishing 4th in Iowa, John McCain leads Obama, who won 1st, by 7% here. Can you imagine how this lead will change if McCain goes on to win New Hampshire and the Republican nomination?

The link to the poll can be found in this other thread in which an Obama supporter was celebrating the fact that he beats McCain in the tiny state of Iowa, which has 7 electoral college votes as opposed to Ohio's 20.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3980979
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:10 PM
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1. Remember when we feared 9iu11iani, then Thompson, then Huckabee?
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 05:10 PM by skipos
They all started to go through the grinder and didn't come out looking to well. That hasn't happened to old man McCain yet.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:10 PM
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2. McCain is my fear if the nominee for Repugs.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:23 PM
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3. Obama or Hillary has nothing to worry about PAPA MCCAIN he's an old fart
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:24 PM
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4. Just remind everyone McCain called Vietnamese people "gooks"...
And it's all over for him.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:06 PM
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5. and if you check a little bit further down the page
of the source survey so does Hillary
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:13 PM
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9. I found the poll
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 07:14 PM by WI_DEM
yeah, he loses to McCain but then so does Hillary. But give it time he hasn't even campaigned in Ohio yet and Hillary is still more well known there than he is. Obama-fever will catch on in Ohio too. But he does pick up Iowa big time against all the GOP candidates. That is more telling because they all have campaigned there. (btw, I mean these comments primarily for the OP)
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:10 PM
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6. Do you have a link? the link you provided dissusses Iowa
where Obama runs best against all the GOP candidates: beats Rudy by 40, Romney by 26, Huck by 23 and McCain by 17.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:12 PM
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7. I thought McCain was a threat until his latest ranting and raving about the war
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 07:13 PM by Harvey Korman
All any Dem needs to do is keep showing him saying we'll be in Iraq for 10 million years if necessary, and he's through.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:16 PM
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13. Yep, thats what I posted below. He has put himself in an impossible position to win. nt
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:12 PM
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8. Early times yet... doubt any Republican can take Ohio this time
around... the GOP brand name in that state is lower than dirt. Cheer up.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:13 PM
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10. 10 months from now, McCain will look older......
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 07:13 PM by FrenchieCat
and Obama will have truly rallied the nation.

One is the original fresh face with new ideas and an empowering message
The other is an old face from Washington that represents the past and talks only about what he will do as President.

The polls will change. They always do!
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:14 PM
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11. And the independents will break for Obama big time....
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 07:14 PM by Flabbergasted
I predict an extremely nasty campaign though.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:18 PM
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15. Obama doesn't get nasty......
he just gets stronger.

The press and McCain will have the same problem that Hillary currently has; it's hard to dog out a personable candidate who is serious about helping us save us from ourselves....and everything there is about OBama, he's written about it in his books, and there ain't no there there.....not with the number of young people (who emphasize with his youth years)coming out to vote. And the greatest thing about it is that all of the voters know he is Black and they know he's got a "funny" name. So, whatever is left won't be much.

Plus, Barack will have the funds to fight....and that is a big part of the key in this country, unfortunately!
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:27 PM
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17. 100% agreement. nt
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:15 PM
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12. McCain has already lost by suggesting we stay in Iraq for 100 years
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 07:17 PM by Quixote1818
and flip flopping on his hate for the Religious Right. He was against Pat Robertson before he was for him.

McCain has flip flopped on so many issues and in this year of "change" he is toast!
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:17 PM
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14. Dems need to get a copy of that and run it over and over in the general election.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:21 PM
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16. I've got to think that's a done deal.
IF Obama is the nominee, I'm starting to realize that the guy is really smart. I watched the debates (ABC) again, and what I saw was intelligence not surpassed on that stage in Obama. He was able to say in less words exactly what the others would drone on about. He was able to "own" all that he spoke. He rarely said "as President, I would...."...he consistently simply stated what needs to be done. It was fascinating on 2nd view....because there was so much I didn't pick up the first time around. He was calm, cool, humorous, confident, and certainly the leader in the room....IMO.
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