Story and Pictures of my meeting today with John Kerry.

[The HL]

Hi,
My story about my meeting John Kerry is finally done
its at
http://www.thehollywoodliberal.com

[JI7]

1. fuck, those pictures

he looks so good. i wish I was hanging out with him like that.

[globalvillage]

2. Sounds like a great meeting with the Senator.

Thanks for posting it.

[The HL]

26. Yes he was very forthcoming

surprisingly.

[blm]

27. Why surprising? He's always been open. It's corp media who tries to

put forth a version of Kerry that has never been true.

[jillan]

3. Thanks for posting!

Lucky you getting to meet with Kerry in such a personal setting.

Glad he continues to connect with the bloggers.

[BrklynLiberal]

4. Very very cool. It looks like it was a fantastic experience.

[IndyOp]

5. Overall evaluation of Kerry's comments: Behind the beltway bullshit.

Kerry: War on terror in Afghanistan was a necessary thing when it was first started, after 9/11.

IndyOp: Disagree. War in Afghanistan was designed to destroy the Taliban - who had stopped growing of poppies - the CIA's cocaine/heroin trade.

Kerry: Bush’s Axis of Evil speech a "diversion of purpose" which Bush used to get his war in Iraq. Bush chose to attack the only country in the region without weapons of mass destruction.

IndyOp: Agree. But why not tell the whole story? Bush went into Iraq to control the oil and to put a long-term military footprint in the MidEast outside Saudi Arabia?

Kerry: The problem in Iraq is one of Sunni vs. Shiite, and the only way to solve those problems is through diplomacy. Not one U.S. soldier has been able to step down.

IndyOp: Disagree Strongly. The problem in Iraq is the US. Get the US the F*CK out and let the Arab Nations help Iraqi's restore their nation. Also we owe THEM massive $$$ reparations. TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH, please, Senator.

Real Shock & Awe: After 15 Years War, Sanctions 1,000,000 Iraqis Dead

Kerry: Adamantly against us doing any kind of bombing of Iran. Iran is five to 10 years away from having nuclear capabilities so we have time for diplomacy, and that we need to repair what he called the gaping hole in the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty.

IndyOp: Agreed. Agreed. Agreed.

Kerry: "Look I know how bad things are, I know that people are pissed off I know we screwed up."

IndyOp: You are not pissed about the right screw ups. I don't care about the campaign bungles. WE WON the election - but you conceded before the citizens could rise up. RULE #1 FOR ALL DEMOCRATIC PARTY CANDIDATES: DO NOT CONCEDE. Never concede. It is no longer your job to decide whether or not to concede. We the citizens will concede when we are convinced the election was free and fair and not 1 minute before.

Kerry: Agreed completely with someone’s assessment that everything that Bush does is for the purpose of looting the country.

IndyOp: Not far enough, sir. Bush & all presidents before him have allow US military and CIA to be used so US corporations can abuse people.

Kerry: He said that if the Democrats could win just one house in the upcoming elections they will use that to stall all Republican legislation.

IndyOp: I feel *far* more urgency to take bold action. Stall all Republican legislation until 2008? Senator, SHUT DOWN the Senate now until the Rethugs release their iron fisted hold on it - now.

Kerry: We have to make it a state by state issue. If we try to do something about it at the federal level with the Republicans in power they will end up just making it worse then it already is, but if each state can pass resolutions banning electronic voting that we could stop it.

IndyOp: Agreed. Senator WE NEED national leadership. Word of mouth only goes so far so fast when even the Democratic Party will not speak out about this issue forcefully.

Kerry: "You know this is something we are really going to have to make an issue of and work on" It was almost as if it was the first time he had even thought of it.

IndyOp: YOU THINK SO, SIR? Judas H. Priest sitting on a broomstick, spinning. YOU THINK SO, SIR?

:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

[BeFree]

9. Good work Indy

I agree with you about 95%.

It is amazing how disconnected politicians are from the truth, eh?

[Mass]

10. IndyOP, tell Afghani women that the Taliban were good people,

There are big issues with what is replacing them, but I strongly disagree with your assessment. Letting the Taliban come in power because we were afraid of Communism was a BIG SCREWUP of previous US governments.

On Iraq, you misinterpret Kerry as well. He has said again and again and again the US forces in Iraq were the problem not the solution. For the rest, I agree with Kerry assessment of the situation. Whether the US forces are here or not, the Sunnis vs Shias issue is there. It has to be solved and will only be solved by diplomacy, with all the actors involved.

You may want to read the full speech. HL made a great reporting, but reporting does not give us all the speech says.

[blm]

14. Something he couldn't do until a serious article like this came out that

people could digest.

And save your outrage for all those Dems who don't even believe in machine fraud - they are the ones that need to be focused on.

[IndyOp]

16. blm - My biggest, biggest beef is that he conceded immediately.

Had he not conceded the national media would've have attacked him mercilously AND it would've kept its cameras and pens ON Ohio -- where there were 1,000's and 1,000' and 1,000's of voters who were enraged about what they experienced.

As Congressman Conyers said - they had two days of hearings in Ohio, but it could've been two weeks because there were SO MANY outraged citizens.

We need to all, across the nation, feel that outrage and the only way that is going to happen is if the media is FORCED to cover it often enough and over a long enough period of time that people start to wake up. There is no better opportunity for this to happen than just after a stolen election. How many more do we let them steal before we insist that Dems must *not* concede until all of the election 'flaws' are investigated and covered in the media so that we know better how to prevent the theft of the next election.

My attack is not meant for Kerry specifically - it is meant for ALL Dems who have done the same thing - conceded a 'flawed' election instead of forcing examination. Who else? Mondale. Max Cleland. Paul Hackett. I admire the 3 people I just mentioned, and I believe that all 3 blew it by conceding too quickly after their elections had been stolen.

Save my outrage for Dems who don't even believe in machine fraud? Sorry, not enough time. The elections are being stolen by disenfranchisement and machine fraud. We need ALL hands on deck. Any politician who does not understand this *fully* and it not working on this needs to start now. Right now.

[blm]

19. I agree with you that they have to start - and this article gives Kerry

the juice he needs to GO BACK to the senators who poo-pooed him before about machine fraud.

Kerry gathers no moss - if he runs true to form, he likely has stacks of information he's been digesting - and it's very likely that he was part of the reason that Kennedy involved himself in this issue.

[PassingFair]

17. "couldn't do until a serious article like this came out"

He can't write?
He can't do an interview?

[blm]

18. He probably can now - he didn't HAVE any senate Dems with him on this -

this article will hopefully change that. Kerry was the one who was going to be branded the sore loser who prompted the article instead of the facts in the article being discussed. Be glad that there is now a Dem who PUBLICLY believes in machine fraud. Focus on the ones who don't now.

RFK said last night that Kerry believes what he read in that article.

[emulatorloo]

21. read Kerry's recent speeches - he wants US out because occupation

inflaming the problems. His point is that the Sunni Shiite conflict needs diplomatic solution, NOT MILITARY ala bushboy. elsewhere he has quoted generals saying that our presence is inflaming the region:

<snip>

Kerry: The problem in Iraq is one of Sunni vs. Shiite, and the only way to solve those problems is through diplomacy. Not one U.S. soldier has been able to step down.

IndyOp: Disagree Strongly. The problem in Iraq is the US. Get the US the F*CK out and let the Arab Nations help Iraqi's restore their nation. Also we owe THEM massive $$$ reparations. TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH, please, Senator.

<snip>

[SunDrop23]

6. Cool! Thanks for posting it!

[primative1]

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[OzarkDem]

8. That's great!

Glad you had such a great time meeting a really good person. Sounds like you all accomplished quite a bit.

[Mass]

11. Great job.

[rodeodance]

12. Thanks very much for the post.

[primative1]

13. yeah .. always great to hear from the campaign trail

hope the weather is fine :)

[blm]

24. According to Nixon, Reagan and Bush WH's, you're right - they all accused

Kerry of doing his job ONLY for the limelight - nice how RW memes stick through the decades. Convenient for the GOP administrations he worked 35 years to expose.

[zann725]

15. Aw...JK was here in L.A....wanted some L.A. bloggers invited?

I would've loved to have gone. Didn't even know he was in town. I am part of "Kerry Group" at DU. Didn't hear about it. Oh well... :(

[blm]

20. Here's a great quote from the Q and A

Q: Thank you for your comments. My question is--do you see global warming as a national security threat, and where does it fit in to your priorities?

A: It's a gigantic national security threat. It ought to be up there with Islam and non-proliferation. Al Gore and Frank Lautenberg and Chafee went down to Rio in 1990 and my wife was one of the non-governmental delegates appointed by GHW Bush. We set a voluntary goal for reduction of gasses down by 7%. I've followed this for a long time. I led the efforts on the senate floor to deal with it. It is deadly serious. Al has done a wonderful movie. I've met with NASA scientists who have said that at the current melt, the ice sheet over the artic will be gone in 30 years. That will not change sea levels to a large degree because it's sea ice. But Greenland is on rock. And if that melts it's a catastrophe. And scientists will tell you that--what's in the atmosphere has a half-life of 70 years. We'll suffer 70 more years of that. But what you have to avoid is a rise of temperature of 2 to 3 degrees. But you have to reduce 6 or 7 gigatons of carbon dioxide over the next several years to do that. That means nuclear reactors or other sources of energy. But this administration doesn't even call CO2 a pollutant, and if we don't we will be derelict beyond description. And I'm putting a bill up that will help us do that. Brazil declared energy independence. They grow it. We pay our farmers not to grow things, when we could pay them to grow fuel. Then we can get stations built. You could get 500 mpg in a matter of months. You take the biofuel, mix it with gasoline, and you get energy independence. It's a health issue, a national security issue. And the number of jobs that can be created is gigantic, high-level high value jobs.

[Mass]

23. I love this quote. It is my favourite part ,

[politicasista]

22. Cool pics!

Thanks for posting this. :kick:

[DemExpat]

25. Thanks for sharing this.

:thumbsup:

DemEx