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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 06:09 PM
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BRAD BLOG: DOJ OHIO WHITEWASH REPORT! CONYERS 'FLABBERGASTED'!
DOJ WHITEWASHES OHIO ELECTION INVESTIGATION!
CONYERS 'FLABBERGASTED' IN REBUTTAL!

Unrequested 'Report' Dismisses, Ignores Evidence of Discrimination, Disenfranchisement!

DoJ Report Also Reveals More than 100,000 Ohio Voters NEWLY 'Purged' from Rolls in One County Alone!

There is almost no other way to put this, but we are simply floored by the report just released by the Department of Justice concerning the Franklin County, OH elections...

If there ever was a report which could be called a whitewash, this would be the very dictionary definition -- with the emphasis on WHITE...

Full Story, including complete DOJ Report and Conyers' full reply:
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001512.htm

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AlwaysQuestion Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 06:13 PM
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1. Depressing
--sounds too depressing to read. Personally, I think it should be ignored as its reading lends credence to the report.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 06:14 PM
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4. IGNORED?
:wtf:
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 06:17 PM
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7. Ignore it?
That is a silly thing to say, whether you like the chimp or not.
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AlwaysQuestion Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 07:15 PM
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13. Good for you.....by all means......read the predictable.
Oh, really. I find most government investigations are fraudulent. In fact, I've not read one yet that I lend any credence to. So now I don't read them, nor do I listen when our Prime Minister speaks or when your President speaks or whenever their representatives speak. They are inveterate liars with no credibility whatever. So, once again, why would I subject myself to more depressing pap?

What will happen, however, is that people who are in favour of the current administration will read it and take it to heart. You see, I don't need to be hit over the head any more. I got the message.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 06:13 PM
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2. So........
How much longer is this fraud going to get a free pass? When will we see IMPEACHMENT proceedings started? My patience is wearing thin.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 06:40 PM
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10. Know what you mean,,,,nt
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 11:40 PM
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18. Really... Really, really, really - Damn it! Conyers & U.S. Deserves Better
Hang in there Conyers. We're with you!

Gotta do that head banging thingy again...

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
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proiowadem Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 06:14 PM
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3. that is some crazy "#)*&$@#$"
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 06:16 PM
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5. Oh,that REPUKELIKKKANS CHEAT?
:wtf:
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 06:16 PM
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6. Recommended and kicked.
:kick:
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 06:19 PM
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8. I put in my 2 cents worth, thank you for this posting
:kick:
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 06:39 PM
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9. What did they expect with James Baker on the
commission.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 06:47 PM
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11. I live in Columbus OH ..... Franklin County
Fact ..... The head of the BOE here Damnschroder had 62 extra voting
machines that he did not send out on 11/2/04 ...... their serial #s were
deleted from roosters ..... RUMOR has it some of those machines were
on trucks driving around all day.

Fact ...... a machine in Gahanna OH came pre loaded w/ 3,800 bush
votes .... the story was told last Feb that the voting machine got
tired and had to add votes to *'s total ......

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1232294

Fact I saw and heard the fraud 1st hand
http://www.thousandreasons.org/get_article.php?article_id=13

Fact republican areas showed 65 to 70% voting where as black,
student, and democratic areas showed ~ 50% voting

God Damn these mother fuckers ..... We kicked bush ass in Ohio ....
when is the truth gonna come out?

Fact "the Texas Strike Force" was paid for by the Ohio Rep. Party and
was housed in the downtown Holiday Inn ..... they were in voter suppression
and phone hacking

Fact * and Karl Rove came to Columbus on 11/2 and met w/ Blackwell
and Damnschroder

Fact Blackwell had access to the central tabulators in the state from his
office and had the capability to input data into the tabulators ....




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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-02-05 01:22 AM
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22. My question is, how did a right wing GOP hick from
North Western Ohio, Damshroeder, get to be the exective director of the Franklin County Board of Elections?

The Dem's had to okay this.....

What the fuck were they thinking?

What small insignificant favor did the Franklin County Democratic PArty trade away in order to let that bastard child of Mean Gene Damschroeder, one of the wackiest State Rep.'s Ohio ever saw, get into a position of power like that?

Get involved with the democratic party and find out why this hack is running the election board. Ask who ever the chairman of the board is, by Ohio Law it has to be a democrat, call him or her up and find out what favor they got for letting that creep in there to help disenfranchise thousands of voters....

If you live in Franklin County, get angry.........
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-02-05 04:44 AM
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23. They ain't no "Democrats"...
...They've been working this scam for years. A bunch of non-Dems calling themselves Dems, so that Blackwell can run around saying "we have bi-partisan boards of elections"

Unbelievable scam.

Brad
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-02-05 07:29 AM
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25. Bingo!
I went to the Ohio Dems w/ proof of fraud and "they" promised
to get on it ...... ha
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-02-05 09:49 AM
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26. That's because Denny White use to be the
chairman of the Franklin County Dm's

I was on the BOE in Cuyahoga County.

The law says that two representives of each party are elected to serve on the BOE. These people are elected by members of the Executive committee which are elected by the Precinct Committee people or appointed by the Chairman of the party.

The law states that the Executive Director of the BOE must come from the other party than the Chairman of the BOE.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-02-05 04:36 PM
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30. So shame on those handing fraud evidence over to DINOs.....
...They tear it up and shred it, damn it!!!! People need to save their evidence and hand it to Howard Dean directly. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-02-05 07:28 AM
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24. Well before he was head of the BOE in Franklin County .....
...... he was head of the Franklin County Repugs
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 07:08 PM
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12. The 'report' sounded like it was written by rumdum
Twisted ramblings that used alot of words to say nothing more than "I dare you to bitch slap me because I am lying and spitting on the voters & the Constitution".

It gave me a frickin headache reading that piece of work.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 07:15 PM
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14. WOW! This is even worse than the DNC Ohio Election report, which is
Edited on Fri Jul-01-05 07:22 PM by Nothing Without Hope
a whitewash on electronic fraud:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=379633&mesg_id=379633
Thread title: DNC RELEASES STUDY OF 2004 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN OHIO

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x380878
Thread title: What the DNC Ohio Election Report failed to address: My letter to H. Dean

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x380494
Thead title: The DNC 2004 Election Report: An indictment of incompetence - Bob Fitrakis

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x381320
Thread title: "Limp election theft report, Dems prove why they're unworthy" – Fitrakis

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x381676
Thread title: DNC Ohio Election Report data were obtained from BLACKWELL!!! Hmmm...

Excerpts:

Excerpt from the Appendix to the voting data chapter, Chapter VI, on page 96 of 108 of the lChapter VI pdf file:
http://a9.g.akamai.net/7/9/8082/v001/www.democrats.org/pdfs/ohvrireport/section06.pdf
For the most part we take as given the accuracy of data supplied to us by the Ohio Secretary of State and by various county BoEs....we appreciate and have benefited greatly from the efforts that the Ohio Secretary of State makes in assembling precinct-level election returns for the entire state. The availability of these returns has obviated the need for us to collect and process a large number of different precinct canvasses....


(page 10 of the second chapter - http://a9.g.akamai.net/7/9/8082/v001/www.democrats.org/pdfs/ohvrireport/section02.pdf

The statistical study of precinct-level data does not suggest the occurrence of widespread fraud that systematically misallocated votes from Kerry to Bush.

  • The tendency to vote for Kerry in 2004 was the same as the tendency to vote for the Democratic candidate for governor in 2002 (Hagan). That the pattern of voting for Kerry is so similar to the pattern of voting for the Democratic candidate for governor in 2002 is, in the opinion of the team’s political science experts, strong evidence against the claim that widespread fraud systematically misallocated votes from Kerry to Bush.
  • Kerry’s support across precincts also increased with the support for Eric Fingerhut, the Democratic nominee for U.S. Senate, and decreased with the support for Issue 1 (ballot initiative opposing same-sex marriage) and increased with the proportion of African American votes. Again this is the pattern that would be expected and is not consistent with claims of widespread fraud that misallocated votes from Kerry to Bush.



pdf files for the DNC election report are here:
http://www.democrats.org/vri/ohioreport/index.html
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 07:45 PM
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15. The timing,- just after release of the Whitewash DNC Ohio Report
presents special difficulties. We have to argue BOTH of them down. The DNC uses data handed to them by Blackwell to claim that there was no widespread fraud of votes taken from Kerry. That DNC report shows what is either astounding incompetence and laziness or deliberate betrayal.

And now we have the DOJ "report" claiming the same thing and MORE.

A one-two punch, all in the same time frame. And the GOP can claim that the DNC report "proves" that the DOJ report is right - "no fraud in Ohio."

Orwell's Though Police, with their rewriting of history and enforcement of their lies as truth, have fully arrived.
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Senior citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 10:37 PM
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16. Kick! n/t

:kick:
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 11:31 PM
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17. Never has it been more important to smash these liars down.
http://www.democrats.org

Contact the DNC and rattle their ears off with what we know!!!!
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-02-05 12:12 AM
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21. DNC used Blackwell Data? Hmm, wonder if he mentioned the Lawsuits that Noe
Edited on Sat Jul-02-05 12:13 AM by KaliTracy
you know - the Coin Investor who conveniently lost over 13 million dollars and who he (and his wife) got personal hugs from * for raising over $100,000 for him.... was Intervenor for him (Blackwell).

This is a letter I wrote a reporter at the Toledo Blade:

... This note is regarding your recent article, which I just saw today about Mr. Blackwell and his stand on the coin investments (June 5th or 6th). I have a lot of issues with Mr. Blackwell concerning the election (regarding the number of precincts that were closed/merged since he took office and the comments he made about how chaotic it was going to be prior to the election (and then was)**). So.... I was looking for connections between him and Noe in some of this mess -- besides monetary contributions, that is -- because I think it goes deep into... something. What, I'm not sure, and ultimately there may be no connections at all.

But, in any case -- you may have already seen this -- and dismissed it or whatever, but I thought I'd pass it on.

It's two lawsuits in which Tom Noe (and one other person) is "Intervenor" for Kenneth Blackwell -- one regarding the use of provisional ballots prior to the election http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/docs/sandusky/doc5.pdf


and one regarding the recount attempt by Cobb and Badnarik after the election http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/docs/ohio/Rios/intervene.pdf

I'm not sure if there are more (the moritzlaw site will have them, if so -- or if these mean anything at all. Just felt the need to pass this on. By the way -- it looks like moritzlaw redid their site, and some of the links don't work -- just look at the broken URL and compare it to the ones here -- I think they messed up between / and - marks because I had one of these bookmarked, and it worked fine even though I couldn't access it from the site.)

Kind Regards....

++++++++++++

the ** gave more information about that statement -- not relevant here.

So...if the fox gives the chickens extra food....will the chickens dumb enough to eat it -- or will there be at least one to say "Hey, There's a Fox in the Henhouse!

edit: clarity/spelling
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-02-05 04:28 PM
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29. I'm leaning toward 'betrayal' -either that or gross incompetence, criminal
Edited on Sat Jul-02-05 04:29 PM by Al-CIAda
neglegence -or catastrophic retardation.

The Dem 'leadership' is FUBAR.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 11:42 PM
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19. When was the last time...
When was the last time the government investigated itself and found that the government was at fault?
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 11:52 PM
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20. What a job they have!
Investigate yourself, give yourselves raises!

:grr: :nuke:

To dream the impossible dream!
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-02-05 09:59 AM
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27. Holy crap!
Thanks for posting this.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-02-05 04:10 PM
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28. This was also reposted in a later thread in the GD forum:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3998822
Thread title: " Just Breaking: DOJ Ohio 2004 Report Released as a Whitewash!"

...and :kick:
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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-03-05 12:23 AM
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31. kick n/t
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-03-05 12:51 AM
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32. Ohio
Like Iraq, somehow the key to it all.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-03-05 02:07 AM
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33. A floating piece of crime not safely tucked away....n/t
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