What we know: Mehlman, McClellan, Williams, Gannon are all gay Bushies.

[blm]

So is Mehlman's field operative.

Gannon is a gay prostitute, Jeff Christie (aka Rush Limbaugh) was arrested for soliciting gay sex in the 70s. He's also a defender of Gannon.

All have strong WH connections.

There used to be a gay prostitution ring at the WH during Bush1.

I think there is something seriously out of whack going on.

You suppose they purposely USE gay prostitutes to entrap other lawmakers and their staff to force them into supporting their agenda?

It seems likely since it was Poppy Bush's job in the Nixon WH to blackmail even members of his own Republican party to support Nixon's agenda.

Edited to add Armstrong Williams who is also gay. Very odd considering the anti-gay agenda of this WH.

[LisaM]

1. Ya THINK???? n/t

[MidwestTransplant]

2. And Jeff Gannon asked whether Bush had a Man Date

from google cache:
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:DeiHUoimdRMJ:www.jeffgannon.com/+jeff+gannon&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

It's in the top left corner of the page under OLD MEDIA
BIASBLOG.
Pretty funny in light of recent news. 

[Up2Late]

12. ROTFL

I love that joke!

[cascadiance]

51. Was this when he asked him?...

[autorank]

60. calipendence, serious question. Is this Jeff Gannon?

If it is, this thing is all over but for the unfolding.

Please let us know?

BTW, I'm a native son, when you do the independence thing, I'm coming home.

WELCOME TO DU!!!

[Shredr]

61. That's so hilarious! n/t

[Emboldened Chimp]

3. I think you're out on a limb with Limbaugh, but the rest seems right...

We all know the rumors floating around about Fat Rush, but I don't think it has a connection to Gannon, McClellan, Mehlman, et al. It will, however, be interesting to see where this leads. Can't wait for the next Scottie PC!

[Maddy McCall]

11. Yeah, I'd like to see proof of the Christie arrest, too.

We need proof, or they will accuse us of just "pulling another Dan Rather" on them.

I think the proof against Gannon is very VERY substantial.

[Maddy McCall]

4. Please tell me...are we sure that McClellan is gay.

I've always thought that, just from my observations of him, but where is any proof. I'd like to read more on this and the rumors about McClellan.

I would probably say, "so what if they're gay"....if it weren't for their anti-gay platform.

[blm]

20. The gay activist who outed Schrock and Dreier, also pointed at Scotty and

Mehlman.

He's also the guy who tracked Mehlman's field manager.

[Goldeneye]

5. It just doesn't make sense.

Is it projection or what? Why do they attack gays so much, when there are so many in their ranks?

[flpoljunkie]

14. Perhaps they have fallen for the image of the GOP as the "daddy" party.

It's about MONEY, too.

[flpoljunkie]

15. It fires up their right-wing base, too.

[Geek_Girl]

52. Because the attack on gays

is all bark no bite to keep the Christian right in line. It's like some sick twisted joke. They keep the small minded simpletons enslaved with their anti gay fire and brimstone rhetoric and then have gay sex. I'm sure they laugh about while they're making man on man love.

My husband keeps telling me Bush is gay or had gay sex with Arthur Ash. I'm starting to believe it.

[DARE to HOPE]

55. It's Victor Ashe, former mayor of Knoxville

Friend of Bush from his Skull and Bones initiation.

[FreedomAngel82]

64. I don't get it either

If it wasn't for them promoting anti-gay rights it would be sad, but they did it to themselves and they should've known not to be with them or they'd be outed. Heh heh.

[UdoKier]

6. Dreier is apparently gay, but I never heard that about Simple Scotty.

But this obsession with gays this gays that seems a bit out of hand.

If a Bushite is proven to be gay, than he deserves to be outed for his hypocrisy in serving a gay-baiting leader, but unfounded rumors have a way of coming back to bite the people who start them.

[tridim]

7. I agree.. I'm not about to declare anything as fact

But there's certainly something odd going on. We've just scratched the surface.

Edit: And don't forget Coulter. Something's obviously up with him/her too.

[Up2Late]

8. Just because you like to be tied up with Black Leather Restraints...

...that doesn't make you GAY, does it?:silly:

[eridani]

69. No, it makes you KINKY! n/t

[borg5575]

9. Maybe they're Log Cabin Republicans?

LOL.

[flpoljunkie]

10. Let 'er rip, blm. The hypocrisy is palpable in the GOP.

Out of whack--yes. These folks are supreme hypocrites.

[KT2000]

13. What about Howard Kurtz?

Watching him on CNN, I saw fear in his eyes. He took great pains to say that Gannon had links to porn but there was no proof he particiapted. I was struck with the thought they Kurtz might be gay.

Maybe Gannon has the goods on lots of people in this adminsitration and their lapdogs because they sure are providing cover for him.

I am really beginning to think that the gay issue is bigger and more complex than we thought. Maybe the election issue was not really gay marriage but the ethos of gays in the closet to keep it that way.

[TheWebHead]

17. no, but he has conflict issues himself w/ the GOP

via his wife Sheri Annis:

"It’s ironic that Kurtz would suggest a conflict of interest between a couple. Kurtz is married to Sheri Annis, who is a GOP public relations strategist supporting the re-election of George W. Bush. Annis also was part of Arnold Schwartzneggar’s brain trust in his recall election. She also worked on a California voter proposition that would force immigrant children to speak English in school. She appears regularly on Chris Matthews’s “Hardball” program as a conservative pundit and writes for the National Review. She also worked on a campaign to stop “living wage” laws. She even calls her company Fourth Estate Strategies."

http://commonwealthcommonsense.typepad.com/commonwealthcommonsense/2004/06/howard_kurtz_ba.html

[KT2000]

24. Thanks for link

She sounds just awful.
Kurtz is afraid of something in the Jeff Gannon story. He was tense and his eyes showed fear. Something is up with him.

[FreedomAngel82]

65. Too bad we couldn't make Gannon talk

Who knows what type of goods he has on people. He probably wouldn't though. Isn't he from Texas?

[Raksha]

72. That doesn't sound like a healthy situation for Gannon...

...if you know what I mean.

>>Maybe Gannon has the goods on lots of people in this adminsitration and their lapdogs because they sure are providing cover for him.<<

Yes, they are providing cover for him for now, but it sounds like he should stay out of small planes.

[blondeatlast]

16. It needs to be made an issue, IMHO.

If it takes an intense whispering campaign to do it, well...

It takes an intense whispering campaign to do it.

[JAK1941]

18. Intense whispering?

After all the Repugs have done to the Democrats, liberals and progressives in this country with ALLEGED information, I would be more apt to insist on shouting it from the roof tops. These people need to be taken down - more than a notch - or, better yet, beaned with my cane!!!!!

Better yet, what about Bush's relationship with Condaleeeeeeeeeeeezza or what's-her'name Spelling, the new Sec. of Education? Now, there's something worth talking about, IMO.

Heck, the Repugs did it to Clinton, why can't we do it to Bush?

[blondeatlast]

21. Unfortunately, we don't have the microphone.

My point is that we need to make the connections at the water cooler and the bar.

Many Bush voters voted for him to "prevent" gay marriage and such, and the RNC ran a whispering campaign to grease the skids.

Mehlman=RNC chairman. He's been rumored as gay far too long for it to be false or speculation.

We need to plant the seed. The target is 2006. We can't bring down the administration, but we can make the people who SHOULD have voted Dem, vote Dem in 06.

[calimary]

70. Well, as kkkarl rove would put it - "it's FAIR GAME." WWrD.

With apologies to the What Would Jesus Do people - What Would republi-CONS Do? Would they "take the high road" on this, if the situation were reversed? Hardly. They'd go for the jugular. I say our time to pull our punches is LONG GONE. Taste of their own medicine. See how they like it.

[TheWebHead]

19. so do we dub this group "The Log Cabin Mafia"?

It seems Republican gays have never enjoyed more power in the government than they do today... That's not even counting rumors about * himself ( http://www.tylwythteg.com/enemies/Bush/bush423.html ).

[RadiDem]

22. Don't forget David Drier

[Fluoxetine20M]

23. I could care less

who's gay! I really don't give a hoot who's gay,who's straight or who's bisexual. Just doesn't matter to me.

[saracat]

25. But you don't count. And they do! It is all in whose listening!

[blm]

26. Neither do I. But Bush built his campaign around those who DO care.

And if there is something sinister going on where gay men are being USED by the WH to help their agenda, I'd like to know about it. it's my tax dollars helping to run that WH.

[Blue_Roses]

62. I agree

it's not about who's gay and I think it's important that we don't focus on that, but hypocrisy and the mass agenda to de-humanize gays by this administration.

[FreedomAngel82]

66. Maybe by doing that and showing people

the hypocriacy in their administration they would open their eyes slowly but surely and see what they really are.

[blondeatlast]

27. Perhaps it doesn't matter where you are now, especially.

Buh-bye now!

[LeftCoast]

28. I'm a little uncomfortable with this thread

Here's the deal. Every one of these people could be gay, and even be closeted and that's ok. It's even ok that they're conservatives. Pefectly fine. My issue with Gannon is not that he's gay, or closeted, but that he 1) Is/was a member of the Whitehouse press corps, despite going under an assumed name (verboten) while having ZERO qualifications and 2) that a WH reporter would have a tawdry escort service on the side.

The only time I think it is fair to criticize a closeted gay republican (CGR) for being a CGR is when they are vocally anti-gay or work against equal rights for GLBTers. I realize this is a fine line and can be difficult for people to understand, but I think it's an important one.

[blm]

29. There's something more here. If these men are being USED because they have

information on OTHER closeted gay men? Are Bushies blackmailing?

There is a history of blackmail with the Bushes and a record of male prostitution in Bush1's WH.

Something has got to be going on.

[LeftCoast]

30. Well, then the issue is blackmail, not their sexual orientation

Additionally, I've seen no evidence of any sort to indicate that is what's going on. Not to say it can't be true, but outing someone just because they're a CGR just ain't right.

[blm]

31. This would be as much of a story if it were female prostitutes and hetero

affairs being used to blackmail or further a political agenda.

[LeftCoast]

32. Agreed, but in your example their orientation would never come up

I don't think it should here either.

[blm]

37. because hetero is usually assumed it isn't noted.

Gay is part of the story because they are gay and because THESE EXACT SAME PEOPLE made being gay an issue politically.

[BlueManDude]

33. Ask yourself - if the situation were reversed would the GOP exploit

it to gain political advantage? You know what the answer is. Hell, they've accused Dems who aren't even gay of being gay. At this moment in history every scrap that can be used to weaken these assholes in any way should be used against them. If people get hurt in the process tuff shit. It's a ruff game and better people than assholes like Mehlman and McClellan have been hurt in the arena of politics.

[flpoljunkie]

34. Exactly. It is the GOP hypocrisy, stupid!

[calimary]

71. Sorry, but THEY made this bed. GOP: Home of the Hypocrites.

If their people weren't out there fanning the flames of hatred against gays and prancing around like holier-than-thous, so quick to judge, so quick to condemn, that would be one thing. But THEY made gays a pariah. I mean, look at dick cheney. He's the (ICK, hate to say it) "vice president" for crying out loud, and he can't even have his own daughter up there with him and EVERYONE ELSE in his family on his big night during the republi-CONvention. Mary Cheney was stuck in the shadows, off the stage completely. She wasn't even allowed to take her rightful place with the rest of her family to share their big moment. For fear they'd offend the "Focus on the Pharisees" people.

The HELL with that. Sorry. NO sympathies. They crapped this out to begin with. Now they can eat it.

[LeftCoast]

36. Just because Republicans are homophobic doesn't mean we should be

They're also pretty racist. Do you think we should start race-baiting too? I mean hey, if it works for them?

[blm]

39. These exact same gay men made being gay an issue politically. Karma.

.

[flpoljunkie]

41. The GOP bashes gays to get votes. Not bashing gays, just GOP hypocrisy.

[BlueManDude]

46. pointing out that a man who supports discrimination

(either directly or indirectly) against gays is in fact gay himself is not homphobic. It is justice.

[Kansas Wyatt]

50. You are correct, and the GOP should have their noses rubbed in it.

After all, didn't we just have an election, where several key States suddenly put banning gay marriage on the ballot to help Bush turn out his voters? Everyone should remember that you do not bring a knife to a gunfight, and Democrats always lose when they turn the other cheek.

Burn the Beast who spews the hatred vile with it's own vile first, then worry about cleaning up the mess. George W. Bush was suppose to bring "integrity back into the White House" after the right wing moral impeachment squad claimed Bill Clinton soiled it.

Where is the right wing moral impeachment squad now, and why is this behavior acceptable to them?

Demand the answer, and those who live in glass houses should not have thrown stones. They sealed their fate when they backed BushCo.

[Vinnie From Indy]

45. Will you show us the line? n/t

[BlueManDude]

49. Either sharpen your elbows or watch what's left of your country

spiral down the commode.

[FreedomAngel82]

67. Very true

Should only be people who are openly anti-gay and it's shown and known they are gay (like Gannon for example and his whole escort thing). It shouldn't be to out people and/or family members. That wouldn't be good for anybody.

[KittyWampus]

35. Remember That Bizarre SOTU Comment About Child Prostitution?

Veiled threat.

Listen, someone made a comment that in Soviet Union, KGB used homosexuality as a way to control operatives.

Think about how taboo engaging in gay sex is for GOP memebers.

Remember that GOP Dentist that came out of the WH crying and who ended up supporting Bush against his will.

Maybe he wasn't gay... but he was strongarmed or blackmailed into supporting that bill.

[ultraist]

38. So, the Bush admin is using a gay prostitution ring to blackmail people

and the press secretary is involved because he is supposedly gay and had connections with Gannon, who is suspected of also being gay. And Rove is the leather S&M pimp who also must be gay because he is the ringleader?

Anything is possible I suppose.

[blm]

40. Pre-emptive? Like his bizarre mention of steroids in baseball when it's

about to break as a story and eventually his name would pop up, like with Jose Canseco's book?

[KittyWampus]

42. Dana Milbank Gave Gannon Story Crediblity On Olbermann... Strange

and he pointed to the scandal that WH allowed compromised individual into Press Room.

Dana Milbank.

Christopher Hitchens wrote that he sees problems in Ohio voting.

Strange

[blm]

43. And Milbank is usually very careful not to upset WH.

.

[KittyWampus]

44. He Was Also Very Careful To Disrespect Kerry During Election Season

[Lorien]

47. Isn't Rove gay too?

He sets my gaydar off every time see a photo of him, plus, I've never seen him with any women. :shrug:

[SheepyMcSheepster]

53. he is married

that's all i know (i think?)

[Obamarama]

57. So were Judy Garland's and Liza Minelli's gay husbands......

What's your point?

[SheepyMcSheepster]

59. my point is

he is married, lol :D
that's all.
i just thought i would throw that out there. i had never heard about his wife until i saw a picture of them together at the corination festivies.

i thought maybe some of the other guys (McClellan, Williams, Mehlman) weren't married. i don't know.

[FreedomAngel82]

68. Don't they also have a son?

But I've NEVER seen Mrs. Rove. :shrug: Anybody else? Is he really married? What's her name? I remember Nancy Pelosi's daughter did a documentary on the DNC primaries and followed around the canidates and they were having some type of party at the House and everybody was invited and Pelosi's daughter was around Rove and he had women lining up to meet him and everything but I didn't see a wife get out of the car with him. :shrug:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

48. Even more powerful and more provable:

They're all assholes.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

54. Just wanna remind everyone: we owe them for Mary Cheney

big time.

How that mention of Ms Coors beer pofessional lesbian liason to the gay community being a lesbian turned into a negative for Kerry is one thing we really owe them for, and we should never forget it.

[DemDogs]

56. Okay on hypocrisy but . . .

Some of this thread sounds like the kind of gay-baiting that we don't stand for.

[disillusioned1]

58. I just remembered something

I read not long after the anthrax attacks, that the guy that died of anthrax at the publishers in Florida had possession of photos of Bush and Arthur Ashe in the act.

[FreedomAngel82]

63. Interesting

Is Limbaugh's real name Jeff Christie and all that is true?

[Bill219]

73. yes.....

and here is an article about the alleged arrest

http://www.americanpolitics.com/20030103Letters.html

still searching for more info

this is a KQV page on Jeff Christie

http://user.pa.net/~ejjeff/christie.html