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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 10:56 PM Original message |
I don't agree that we have to acquiesce to this false "values" debate |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's just bigotry. We're gonna back down in the face of BIGOTRY? |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 10:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Did you read the post? Where do I say back down in the face of bigotry? |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 11:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. No, I'm not saying you're saying that. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 11:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Sorry--I agree, and it is also pissing me off |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
5. Musical chairs is a good description. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 11:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. We need to either disrupt their defining of the debate |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 11:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I don't blame Kerry....they have an awesome machine. |
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Zero Division (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
6. I agree. It's just a code word for the Christian Right's agenda. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 11:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I'm not sure we can expose it, but we can create our own |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 11:41 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. We need a few strong points NOW for 2006. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
10. Those "anti-gay" propositions were an effective GOTV tactic. |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
12. People are afraid of the word "values" |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 11:44 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. My point is we need to stop playing to their manufactured "values" |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 11:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Oh, I absolutely agree |
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andym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
14. no doubt wedge issues helped *, but the economy may have been key |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 11:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. That's certainly possible, but note that "morals" and "terror" were cited |
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