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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:40 PM
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RESULTS ARE IN! Kerry Wins Third Presidential Debate!
For Immediate Release
October 13, 2004

RESULT ARE IN!
Kerry Wins Third Debate

ABC Who won the debate?
Among Democrats – Kerry: 81%
Among Republicans – Bush: 73%

CBS Poll uncommitted voters:
Who won the debate:
Kerry-Edwards: 39
Bush-Cheney: 25
Tie: 36

CBS POLL, Kerry has clear positions on issues:
Before: 29%
After: 60%
CNN Poll:
Kerry 52%
Bush 39%

MSNBC Keith Oberman:
12 Rounds Kerry
4 Rounds Bush
MSNBC Online poll:

Who won the debate?
Kerry 75, Bush 25%

KERRY WINS ABC REPUBLICAN HEAVY POLL:
Of the 566 People Polled (38% Were Republican, 30% Democrat, 28% Independent) Kerry Won 42%-415
Kerry In Control And Winner

Bob Novak: “Kerry seems to be overpowering Bush.” (cnn.com, 10/13/04)

Candy Crowley: “If what you’re looking for in a candidate is the best debater, I mean, that is definitely John Kerry. He has a quick command of the facts, he is very articulate, and I think the poll reflects that.” (CNN, 10/13/04)

Ron Reagan: “I will predict that the polls tomorrow, just as they have in the two previous presidential debates, will say that Kerry won.” (MSNBC, 10/13/04)

Pat Buchanan: “Kerry was, I thought, very much at the top of his game and I thought toward the end, when you saw Kerry, you saw more of the humanity of the man in some of those questions, which was very helpful to them; talking about the daughters and things. I thought he had some excellent moments.” (MSNBC, 10/13/04)

John Roberts: “I would probably have to give it to John Kerry. He seemed a little bit more poised.” (CBS, John Roberts, 10/13/04)

Joe Scarborough: “It gave Democrats a reason to be excited about John Kerry.” (MSNBC, 10/13/04)

Jon Meacham, Newsweek: “John Kerry took the populist war straight to the President.” (MSNBC, 10/13/04)

Tavis Smiley: “I think, Peter, that you have to shore up your bases…I think Mr. Kerry did that with people of color on the left.” (ABC, 10/13/04)

Bill Schneider: “Well this was a decisive win for John Kerry. It was just about as decisive as his win in the first debate, which everyone agreed was a blowout. His, the first debate he won by 16 points; this debate, Kerry won by 13 points. According to the views of the viewers polled immediately after the debate so they had no chance really to be influenced by the spin.” (CNN, 10/13/04)

Andrea Mitchell: “Kerry says, well we all, you know, married above ourselves and some would say, me more than most – joking about Teresa Heinz and her extraordinary fortune and I thought that was actually showing a lot of self confidence of John Kerry to joke about that disparity.” (MSNBC, 10/13/04

Kerry’s Momentum Grew And Grows

David Gergen: "John Kerry, Sen. Kerry gained strength as the debate went on and I thought he became much more effective and if anything I thought the last part of the debate was his." (PBS, 10/13/04)

Carlos Watson: “As we went along, as we talked about social security, as we talked about immigration, as we talked even about the Supreme Court, I thought John Kerry ultimately found his voice. And when all is said and done I think Kerry will be proclaimed the winner, which I think will be significant because I think he will be viewed as having won all three debates.” (CNN, 10/13/04)

Dean Reynolds: “I think the candidate whose numbers have been moving in the right direction for the last 10 days has been Senator John Kerry, this debate did nothing to stop that, and I think from the Kerry point of view they’ll be happy about the results tonight.” (ABC, 10/13/04)

Anthony Mason: “Dan, the uncommitted voters in our survey have given the edge in this debate, to this final debate, to John Kerry.” (CBS, 10/13/04)

Kerry Appealed To Voters

David Gergen: "What I thought John Kerry did very effectively tonight was reach out to women voters and they've become critical to his election Charlie, its the bigggest change that's taken place since these debates started. And tonight, I would imagine with the Yankees and Red Sox on, there were probably a lot of women in that audience tonight." (PBS, 10/13/04)

"After viewing two presidential debates, a group of local independent voters has decided whom to support - and will use tonight's face-off simply to make sure they've got it right. Currently, Kerry is the pick of the majority. The Denver Post gathered the five panelists last month to view the debates. At the time, none of them had decided." (Denver Post, 10/13/04)

Seniors Weigh In For Kerry. AARP hosted a debate watch party in Las Vegas they were asked: Which presidential candidate best addressed the issues important to you? 76.2% for John Kerry, 15.1% George W. Bush, 8.7 Draw

Kerry More Presidential

Bill Schneider: “Well I think he did appear more presidential than the president, which is exactly why he won the first debate and why he won this debate.” (CNN, 10/13/04)

Richard Wolfe: “John Kerry has looked more presidential and more personable as these debates have gone on.” (CNN, 10/13/04)

Perry Bacon, Time Magazine: “And still, Kerry came out looking more presidential…” (CNN, 10/13/04)

Kerry Clear On Issues

Andrea Mitchell: “I think Kerry cleared up any confusion that might have existed about how he as a Catholic was dealing with this very complex issue (abortion).” (MSNBC, 10/13/04)

George Stephanopoulos: “I thought Senator Kerry was most effective on talking about jobs, minimum wage, healthcare and social security.” (ABC, 10/13/04)

"Kerry's answer on health-care costs may be his best yet. He lays out the case against the administration logically and clearly." (Kit Seeyle, New York Times online, 10/13/04)

"In response to the flu vaccine, Bush narrowly focuses on the question and tells people not to get a flu shot. Kerry smartly takes the topic back to health care." (Kit Seeyle, New York Times online, 10/13/04)

Chris Wallace: "I thought perhaps because of the subject matter that John Kerry did better in the second half on subjects like minimum wage which the president seemed somewhat uncomfortable on." (Fox News, 10/13/04)

Mark Shields: “I thought Kerry's best answer by far was on the assault weapons. When the President begged off, it was Bob Schieffer's question to him Jim, why didn't you, you said you'd sign it, why didn't you lift a finger to do it, he said well they told me in Congress they didn't have the votes to do it and he said I would have gone to Tom Delay, and said we're going to have a fight, we'll go to the country on this. I thought that was probably Kerry's best answer. (PBS, 10/13/04)

Chris Matthews: “Senator Kerry tonight was able to score on the class issue.” (MSNBC, 10/13/04)

Tom Brokaw: “I think that they were seeing on the war issue that John Kerry had tapped into something out there in America. That there were doubts even among the president’s supporters on the Republican side of the agenda and especially in a lot of those traditionally red states where they have a lot of people overseas and beginning to wonder if this was going well or not. So they had to move it; move the agenda, if you will, off the war and harder onto the social issues.” (MSNBC, 10/13/04)

Bush Fell, Kerry Cleaned-Up

Ron Reagan: “George Bush made a mistake. Kerry quoted him accurately as it turns out in saying he’s not really worried about Osama bin Laden and Bush came back and said, well I don’t recall ever saying anything like that, we’ll you’ll see the clip of him saying exactly that tomorrow.” (MSNBC 10:32 pm)

Mark Shields: “I think Kerry is far more factual.” (PBS, 10/13/04)

Brian Williams: “We heard the name Osama Bin Laden mentioned again tonight and tonight our fact checkers found the President in a major contradiction. Here is what the President said on stage tonight in response to a charge by Sen. Kerry (Bush clip, exaggerations). But here is what the President said about Bin Laden in March of 2002 (Bush clip saying he is not concerned about Bin Laden). (NBC, 10/13/04)

Chris Jansing: “He painted the president as some one who led us to a misguided war, who has put Americans at risk because they don't have health insurance, who has lost more jobs than any president.” (MSNBC, 10/13/04)

Bush Mission To Win Debate: NOT ACCOMPLISHED

George Stephanopoulos: Most Americans believe we’re going in the wrong direction right now. (ABC, 10/13/04)

Jeff Greenfield: “I think to the extent that the Republicans were looking for the president to lay the heavy lumber on John Kerry, that did not happen. And so if we’ve gone this last ten days with Kerry slowly moving up on Bush, I don’t see anything in this debate that will change that.” (CNN, 10/13/04)

John King: “I do think Republicans will agree that the president was perhaps not emphatic or focused enough in doing as much as he wanted to do to calling the Senate record into play and put the liberal label on Senator Kerry.” (CNN, 10/13/04)

Bob Novak: “Bush looks wishy-washy on the assault-weapons ban.” (cnn.com, 10/13/04)

Richard Wolfe: “John Kerry, I thought, took this one by points. The president really needed to get a big victory tonight and he fell short of that. You know, he beat himself in the previous debates, but that really wasn’t good enough.” (CNN, 10/13/04)

Bush’s Expressions Showed His Weakness

"Bush seems more on edge than Kerry. His voice is rising, almost to a shout. And he pounds his hand for emphasis. Kerry is trying to show he is cool, calm and collected." (Kit Seeyle, New York Times online, 10/13/04)

Bob Novak: “Bush's chuckles are not so good.” (cnn.com, 10/13/04)

Chris Matthews: “I think the president had sort of an unhappy look but it was a very controlled and disciplined look. He was obviously told ‘they’re looking at you, don’t put on a show.’ But he didn’t look happy. He wasn’t used to this kind of brow-beating.” (MSNBC, 10/13/04)

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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:41 PM
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1. I think we are getting back in the right universe again
Go Kerry!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:48 PM
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5. Ya think?
:)
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:43 PM
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2. Awesome summary! Thanks for posting this - it's getting e-mailed ALL
OVER!
Let's keep the pressure on, so we can ensure that the Naked Emperor's reign of terra on the 'Murkin people is ALL OVER SOON!
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happynewyear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:46 PM
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3. Yippppeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for the info.!!!!

:bounce: :party: :bounce: :party: :bounce: :toast: !!!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:47 PM
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4. Thanks for this, Skinner!
"In response to the flu vaccine, Bush narrowly focuses on the question and tells people not to get a flu shot. Kerry smartly takes the topic back to health care." (Kit Seeyle, New York Times online, 10/13/04)"

"Bob Novak: “Bush's chuckles are not so good.” (cnn.com, 10/13/04)"

What is so crazy ..all these rw pundits are giving it to Kerry!


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MockSwede Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 06:59 AM
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74. Concise
Thanks for concise collection - emailed to all. Especially my Repuke co-workers.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:49 PM
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6. Now that is some feel good reading. n/t
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:50 PM
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7. very nice summary skinner!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:50 PM
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8. No, we should declare ourselves the losers of the debate,
just to make sure that we don't get overconfident.
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MockSwede Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 07:31 AM
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76. Double think
Work like we're behind. Tell all the undecided: "Kerry in a LANDSLIDE!"
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:50 PM
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9. This would make a nice email to send to fence-sitting friends.
Nice selection of quotes.

RTP
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lasttrip Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:56 PM
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15. already sending. many thanx again Skinner! great job!
Edited on Wed Oct-13-04 11:57 PM by lasttrip
:yourock:

edit: sp.
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:02 AM
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25. Two of my friends are still undecided.
I'll e-mail this to them. Good suggestion!
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:50 PM
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10. Skinner, you're the greatest.
I hope the doom and gloomers will check out this thread; they need a reality check.

Kerry won this (and all of the debates) decisively. I agree with Mark Shields that Kerry's answer about the assault weapons was one of his finer moments tonight (and there were many).

Thanks.
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:53 PM
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11. Kick - *'s A$$!!!

Kick.

Stay focused people. Celebrate....AND VOLUNTEER!
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sisenor Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 06:06 AM
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70. I'm dying to volunteer
and I speak Spanish, so I could do well with Hispanic voters, but in connecticut, is there any use for me?
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RobertDevereaux Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:11 PM
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96. None! Fly to CO, AZ, or NM and get cracking! :^)
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blitzen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:53 PM
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12. great compilation....keep it kicked and....
throw it back in their faces when they try to dwell on the Cheney's lesbian daughter thing for the next three weeks.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:56 AM
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56. That shit is gonna backfire
...because if that is brought up, then you just HAVE to talk about THE DEBATE. Lynne Cheney's whining aside, I think they are going to want people to STOP talking about the debate as soon as possible. Problem is, weewee made so many factual errors, there's a half hour's worth of commercials in his nonsensical statements alone!
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:54 PM
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13. I think Kerry certainly won on points and overall was more factual.
Edited on Wed Oct-13-04 11:55 PM by familydoctor
Bush's "device" did seem to be working tonight so I think he avoided looking like a total deer caught in the headlights. Nonetheless he sucked and I hope his "I never had sexual relations with that terrorist...Mr. Bin Laden" gaffe bites him in the ass for the next few days.

Here's Bush's bad points:

Red as a lobster.
Spit dried in the right corner of his mouth.
Blinked too much.
Shifty eyes.
Looked like he was being fed lines when he probably was fed lines.
His mysterious rectangular "hump" reared its ugly head again.
He all but admitted he wants to make sure abortion rights go away.
He couldn't get out of saying that he didn't "care too much" about OBL.
He got caught in the OBL lie.
Practically admitted (and demonstrated) that he can't speak proper English.
Misled and misrepresented the facts much more than Kerry.
Admitted he wants to scrap Social Security.
Too angry at times, edgy.
Nervous.

Both on points and style, I think Bush did worse.

Kerry won all 3 debates, the Prez has lost more jobs than he's created, he's gotten us into another Vietnam, and 95% of cargo coming into this country is not inspected. If Kerry can't win, then I know this election was rigged from the beginning.
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 05:30 AM
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68. And he keeps bringing up Ted Kennedy
It just sounds weird.
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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 06:41 AM
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73. Not weird at all. Just common GOP battle tactics. Kennedy=Sex scandal
Remember the GOP has to always scare the goody two shoes of the world into thinking that us liberals are all sex offenders. When they have gangs of them. In their own GOP leadership.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:54 PM
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14. Can you pin this thread at the top of each forum?
I just nominated it for the home page, too!

:bounce:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:57 PM
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16. Great post Skinner !
I read every word.. :)
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:57 PM
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17. Thats a thorough recap Skinner!
Thanks for the post.

:)
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:58 PM
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18. Wow!
Even the media whores are saying Kerry won. Have we stepped into a parallel dimension?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:09 AM
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31. The Opihi is collecting keawe fire wood for the roast hind quarter/pig/
squash fire.

Luau Time is almost upon us.

Light the fires....get ready, call the neighbors.
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:32 AM
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41. It makes you wonder if they weren't all just waiting to pile on
Great job, Skinner!
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BUSHOUT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:59 PM
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19. Wow. After reading all that, is there any question? President John Kerry
:thumbsup: :hi: :dem: :kick: :puffpiece: :loveya: :grouphug: :pals: :headbang: :yourock:
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:00 AM
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20. Bob Novak: “Bush's chuckles are not so good.” (cnn.com, 10/13/04)
Heh. The Prince of Darkness is not too happy with his guy. Good.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:03 AM
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26. As with the 1st debate, David Brooks called this a tie - so we know
it was a clear Kerry win. If it had really been a tie or even close to it Brooks would be proclaiming pretzel boy the winner, as he did in the 2nd debate - but he was wrong about that as well.
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:01 AM
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21. Thank you!!!
But this only confirms what we already knew. John Kerry pummeled Smirky, OVER AND OVER to win ALL THREE DEBATES!!!!

:bounce: :headbang: :thumbsup: :beer:
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:02 AM
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22. Thanks for posting those summaries, Skinner! I am really shocked...
...that even some of the most obnoxious shills for the NeoCons gave this debate to Kerry. Then again, based on the respective performances of the two candidates, they really didn't have a choice...Kerry was clearly the winner on a number of levels.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:02 AM
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23. Awesome to read! Thanks!
I LIKE the fact that Kerry did not attack as much this time. He got more accomplished by answering the questions that were asked, and not going back to the last one as much. That happened in the other debates. Tonight, the moderator was more balanced.
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:02 AM
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24. today is October 14
watch the bastards raise the terror alerts several times until Nov 2. To terrorize voters is the only thing they have left. It worries me.
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California Griz Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:04 AM
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27. Masterful
job by Kerry. Bush made no ground at all with undecided voters. Kerry was cool, calm and collected. Kerry came off as a regular joe tonight this debate sealed the deal. It's going to be Kerry in a landslide.
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Chichiri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:05 AM
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28. Thanks, Skinner!
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:05 AM
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29. Not according...
to some of our members with a star and over a 1000 post.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:10 AM
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32. LOL!
Strange that!
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:07 AM
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30. Pat Buchanan?
DAY-UM!
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:12 AM
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33. Great stuff
enjoyed every word!:kick:



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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:16 AM
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34. Skinner that was allot of work . Thank you!!!!
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chrislrob Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:19 AM
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35. Thanks a million, Skinner!

I had a client suddenly want to meet across town at the exact moment that the debate was starting.

I came home thinking, "how the hell am I supposed to get a handle on what these talking heads bastards are saying about my new president?!"

You laid it out beautifully!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:21 AM
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36. Yee Haw !!! - That Is GREAT !!!
:bounce::kick::bounce:
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:23 AM
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37. Keeped this pinned please?
Great, great collection of instapunditry. You just saved
me tons of work.

Thank you!!!

:thumbsup:
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:29 AM
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38. WhooHooHoo!
Can't we just skip the next three weeks and go directly to Nov. 2nd?
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atre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:29 AM
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39. CNN/USAT/Gallup also shows decisive Kerry victory 52% to 39%
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/14/snap.poll/index.html

A CNN/USA Today/Gallup snap poll taken immediately after the presidential debate found that respondents gave a significant edge to Kerry over Bush, 52 percent to 39 percent.

The poll had a margin of error of plus or minus 5 percentage points.

The numbers were similar to the results of a poll taken the night of the first debate September 30 in Miami, Florida. That night Kerry was favored by a 53 percent to 37 percent margin...

The respondents Wednesday were 511 registered voters who watched the debate. Their political affiliations broke down as 36 percent Republican, 36 percent Democratic and 28 percent independent.
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They still oversample Republicans, but not to the same extent as in prior polls.
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Chelsea Patriot Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:30 AM
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40. Thank You For This Great Thread!
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Polemonium Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:33 AM
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42. Thanks for that
A clean sweep on all accounts. The wheels are finally coming off the shrub campaign.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:39 AM
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43. Hallejuah
This is great, fantastic news.
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:41 AM
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44. Yahoo!
I haven't watched it yet, I was at a School Board Meeting (which is an exercise in futility, if you are a parent or other member of the community) and have it on my Tivo to watch any minute now. But thought I'd sneak a peek, and I'm happy to see that Kerry seems to have won resoundingly! You know that when the majority of the pundits can't deny Kerry won, he's got momentum.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:43 AM
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45. Momentum!
:toast:
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:45 AM
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46. Fox News is in complete meltdown mode!!
Fox News Channel's debate panel ruled the last of three face-offs between John Kerry and President Bush a clear win for the president, with panelist Bill Kristol saying Kerry had been "knocked out."

"I think Bush knocked Kerry out tonight," he told Fox debate anchor Brit Hume. "He just slaughtered him.

"I was keeping track of the twenty questions," Kristol said. "I don't have Kerry winning any question outright. I think maybe six or seven were tied. And I have Bush winning outright a majority of the questions."

Panelist Fred Barnes concurred.

"It was clearly President Bush's best debate. He seemed to marshall all the arguments that he wanted on all these domestic issues - many of which are traditional Democratic issues, including health care."

Barnes said this was the first debate where Bush seemed "animated and strong" on the early questions. "In the others it's taken him sort of a half hour to get rolling."

"If he had done as well in the first debate as he did tonight, he'd have a much bigger lead in this race," he added.

Panelist Morton Kondracke agreed, saying, "I think Kerry was on the defensive a lot of the time so I think it was a much better performance by Bush."


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obiwan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:50 AM
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52. Fox News Flash!
Barnes fucks Kondrake in back of Town Car as Hume watches! Film at 11!
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shivaji Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:10 AM
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57. That's impossible, Barnes is a eunuch.
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obiwan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:23 AM
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100. Barnes is fully equipped...
...however, Kristal is definitely a eunuch. A bitter, bitchslapping, robot of a eunuch.

If Ashcroft wipes his ass with the Bill Of Rights, then I wipe mine with the Weekly Standard.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:35 AM
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60. Get real, Foxbots. Rudy Giuliani, another dunce mesmerized by his
Chimperor.:eyes: :dunce:
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 04:51 AM
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67. I'll give him "animated"- like a cartoon. n/t
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mparker Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:44 AM
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94. All 3 panelists are far-rightwingers
They are also all tied into The Weekly Standard, the staunchly conservative "news" magazine.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:46 AM
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47. Bush got served on every subject
And man, I teared up when Kerry spoke about how "we're all God's children"
He's gonna make a fantastic president :)
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obiwan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:46 AM
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48. Absolute proof Freepers don't have a clue...
... spotted on the Freeper's debate thread:

"To: NautiNurse

Is this the thread or is the other thread the thread?

36 posted on 10/13/2004 5:27:25 PM PDT by Lizarde
< Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies >"

Looking at the posts, it appears they are piss-ass drunk from watching Chimpy getting his ass kicked between his shoulder blades. What a bunch of total losers these Freepers are! They should lie under the wheels of their giant SUV and have someone put it in gear.

PS I saw the receiver under the jacket tonight, too. Pitiful. Just pitiful.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 07:38 AM
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78. that's really funny
They can't even find the right thread! And can you even imagine having a poster around named "NautiNurse?" LOLOLOL.

Oh man.


Cher
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obiwan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:25 AM
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101. Maybe a "poster child."
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Hornito Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:46 AM
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49. Thanks for this Skinner....
Great public service!
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Joe Momma Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:48 AM
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50. awesome compilation <nt>
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:50 AM
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51. Thanks, Skinner...
:loveya:
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Steelangel Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:51 AM
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53. Hooray, thanks for these, Skinner!
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:22 AM
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54. Terrific "highlights reel," as it were. Thanks, Skinner!
These sound bites are outstanding -- good to see them all in one place.

:toast:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:35 AM
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55. .
:kick:
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:30 AM
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59. .
:kick: :kick:
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:15 AM
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58. Thanks for all of the comments.....
:kick: :kick: :kick:

DemEx
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:40 AM
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61. og. This Nightmare is almost OVER!!
Bob Novak: “Bush's chuckles are not so good.” (cnn.com, 10/13/04)
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 04:08 AM
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64. Chuckles????
Bobby boy, he was smirking his tush off...

Yeeesh, spin ain't what it used to be.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:47 AM
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62. DON'T GET COMPLACENT - WE MUST KEEP THE PRESSURE ON *
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 03:55 AM
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63. This would look so much better on page 1. (Kick)
:kick:
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 04:15 AM
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65. Bush didnt throw his poo that means kerry lost
so there!!
:O)
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humanbeing Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 04:49 AM
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66. hahahahaha
that's hilarious, gopsux!! :D
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 05:48 AM
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69. Thanks Skinner
We need to keep pushing. The Repubs will fight hard to keep their power. The House and Senate must be cleared of at least 4 Repubs ea.
Kerry and Edwards will have a hard time getting things done if Congress remains Repub. dominated.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 06:35 AM
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71. Cheneying Candy Crowley!
Had to find a way to minimize Kerry's performance: "If what you're looking for in a candidate is the best debater . . ." is a backhanded compliment if I ever saw one. And I've already read at least one rightie's saying something similar (before this debate).
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 06:41 AM
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72. thanks for this great recap!
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 07:30 AM
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75. Keep it kicked
:kick:
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 07:36 AM
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77. Skinner you are one of my heroes
thanks for all the hard work you do.

I couldn't help but to notice Candy "Butterqueen" Crowleys snide comment. "If what you're looking for in a president is a great debater. God I can't stand that woman.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 07:41 AM
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81. well, not me
I'm certainly not looking for a "great debater." I'm looking for a lightweight who massacres the English language and babbles sound bytes, even when he is wired to someone with a brain.

Thanks for bringing that to my attention, Ms. Crowley. Now go see if you can find a way to excoriate Kerry for being a mensch.


Cher
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obiwan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:30 AM
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103. I want to ask Candy Crowley that joke I heard when I was a kid....
Edited on Fri Oct-15-04 04:31 AM by obiwan
... you know, "Do that trick where you open your mouth and your face disappears."

A very unhappy woman. Even a full-tilt Hickory Farms beefstick couldn't make her smile, if you know what I mean.
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sazemisery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 07:39 AM
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79. kick!!
:kick:
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AussieDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 07:40 AM
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80. Great summary Skinner - thank you
I believe Kerry had the better of Bush, but then again I think a ham sandwich would too.
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obiwan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:33 AM
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104. Please don't insult ham. Unless it's really bad canned ham.
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AussieDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 07:32 AM
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107. Well, Bush is ham that SHOULD be canned
and quickly.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 07:43 AM
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82. Thanks, Skinner. Great work pulling all this together for us!
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 07:50 AM
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83. Thanks Skinner!
I feel, for the first time in a long time, hope for the future of America.
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bill Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 08:12 AM
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84. 09:00 Kick!
:kick:

:dem:
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BUSHOUT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 08:32 AM
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85. happy kick!
:bounce: :kick:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 08:34 AM
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86. Thanks Skinner!
Yipppeee!!! :kick: :kick:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 08:44 AM
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87. Kick for Great News!
Kerry Won the 3rd debate..Makin it a grand slam!
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:12 AM
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88. Heh heh. Three strikes and you're out, Monkey-Boy!!
A big "K" for Kerry!

:kick::kick::kick:
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xyboymil Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:27 AM
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89. Awesome post Skinner! Thank you for the info!
:toast:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:31 AM
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90. Kerry was at his very best last night.
Bush* had a crimson face throughout the debate.
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obiwan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:34 AM
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105. Maybe he fell asleep under the sunlamp.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:36 AM
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91. Why didn't Sheiffer call Bush on the rules ?
Candidates were not supposed to address each other directly.

And yet several times in the last 30 minutes, Bush adressed Kerry in the first person 'you did blah-blah' ... 'you said blah-blah' ... why didn't he get called on that ??



:shrug:
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obiwan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:35 AM
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106. He saw the hump on Bush's back...
... and thought * was a suicide bomber.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:40 AM
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92. Kick - great round up Skinner
Thanks!


Sonia
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:45 AM
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93. E-Mail this to everyone you know
:kick:
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bigpathpaul Donating Member (623 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:03 PM
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95. Thanks, Skinner. Here's a 3-Page News Release PDF for Download!


Download 3-page PDF all the great polling numbers and quotations from the media at: http://bigpath.net/politics/NewsLink/index.html
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:51 PM
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97. CHRIS WALLACE of FOX says that?!
:wow:
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americanwomanone Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:56 PM
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98. A Big Thank-You! n/t
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:58 PM
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99. The Media Whores MUST be absolutely livid!!!
I bet they were so hoping to spin these debates like 2000 in favor of Bush, but these post-debate polls are stopping them in their tracks!
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HuskerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:29 AM
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102. We really are going to pull this thing off.............. THANK GOD
And I don't mena that in a just enough mayo left for a sandwich at midnight kind of way. I mean truly, Thank GOD.
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