Did anyone else see this? 5.5 Ton Mex Coke Bust linked to DHS, CIA,...

[Up2Late]

...Jeb Bush, Tom Delay and Porter Goss resignations, etc.

I thought it might be a Joke site that was covering this (Mad Cow Morning News), but it looks like this guy has been following this story since April, and making some interesting connections.

<http://www.tampatrib.com/MGBEOHQKSME.html>

Here' s some links: <http://www.madcowprod.com/04182006.html>

<http://www.madcowprod.com/06052006.html>

<http://www.madcowprod.com/06222006.html>

More links on the side bar of the Mad Cow site.

Plus, I cross checked the tail number of the jet at Airliners .net, a site where worldwide amateur aircraft spotters post their best pictures, and the jet checks out as reported, see link below:

<http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0547994&WxsIERv=Qbhtynf%20QP-9-15&Wm=0&WdsYXMg=Hagvgyrq&QtODMg=Fnagn%20Nan%20-%20Wbua%20Jnlar%20%2F%20Benatr%20Pbhagl%20%28FAN%20%2F%20XFAN%29&ERDLTkt=HFN%20-%20Pnyvsbeavn&ktODMp=Znepu%2029%2C%202004&BP=1&WNEb25u=Zvpunry%20Pnegre&xsIERvdWdsY=A900FN&MgTUQtODMgKE=Qry%2012%2F20%2F1966%20gb%20Genaf%20Jbeyq%20Nveyvarf%20nf%20A1061G%2C%20znqr%20n%20irel%20ener%20nccrnerapr%20ng%20FAN%20bcrengvat%20sbe%20gur%20%28Genafcbegngvba%20Frphevgl%20Nqzvavfgengvba%20%28GFN%29.&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=1169&NEb25uZWxs=2004-04-03%2000%3A00%3A00&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=45775%2F71&static=yes&width=1024&height=692&sok=JURER%20%20%28ZNGPU%20%28nvepensg%2Cnveyvar%2Ccynpr%2Ccubgb_qngr%2Cpbhagel%2Cerznex%2Ccubgbtencure%2Crznvy%2Clrne%2Cert%2Cnvepensg_trarevp%2Cpa%2Cpbqr%29%20NTNVAFG%20%28%27%2B%22A900FN%22%27%20VA%20OBBYRNA%20ZBQR%29%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=4&prev_id=0562516&next_id=0374480>

More story links below:

<http://www.tbo.com/news/nationworld/MGBKSL4KSME.html>

<http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/05/25/18253891.php>

<http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=54258>

<http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=55262>

<http://www.bigmuddyimc.org/newswire/display/5415/index.php>

Boy, this could really screw up the upcoming Mexican election, or even some Republican primaries if this is all true.

[skids]

1. Yeah, seen it, but...

...thanks for the reminder. Good to see new material still being dug up on this one.

[benburch]

2. five TONS?

Wow! That is a lot of deviated septums!

[Up2Late]

4. I like this part: 128 black briefcases marked "private..,"

...containing 5.5 tons of cocaine worth about $100 million on the street.

It's a wonder they didn't print something else even more obvious on them.

[mirandapriestly]

13. Who is the pretty face in the WhiteRose Society graphic?nt

[skids]

21. 5.5 tons... 5 metric tons.

From the site:

There have been sixteen separate seizures of precisely 5.5 tons of cocaine in the past 20 years, we discovered. You can count them. We did.

...so this seems to be a quantity that is considered a popular "unit"

Oh, and brickbats to the admin that moved this story into the 9/11 forum.

[Old and In the Way]

30. Odd that the mainstream media has never reported on those busts.

I know the American public is far more interested in Natalie Holloway and OJ Simpson to care, but I'd be interested in someone doing a serious investigation on these busts. I mean, this latest bust features a jet dressed up to look like a DHS plane.....shouldn't that be of interest to someone in the MSM?

BTW, Madcow has an update teaser....I think they have ID'd the jet owners of record. Should be interesting.

[wakeme2008]

3. If you go to the picture of the plane

just to the right of the pax door is a seal... TSA maybe... :shrug:

[Up2Late]

5. Some of the articles say TSA don't have any jets...

...but this does have a US Government look about it.


Here's another Airliners .net link with more pictures of it: <http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=N900SA&distinct_entry=true>

[Mnemosyne]

6. K and R n/t

[donsu]

7. Mad Cow reports are superb

this is true

[Up2Late]

8. To me, this is just another amazing example of the gutless MSM...

...caving into pressure to NOT report the big story.:mad:

I wonder if this is the true reason for all the recent WH and Congressional grand-standing, BS legislation and trips to Iraq, etc., so to distract attention away from all this?:shrug:

[IndyOp]

9. Old But Excellent: Crack the CIA (2004)

Crack the CIA

GNN's award winning documentry on the CIA's involvement with selling of narcotics

Tracking the covert history of CIA drug smuggling from Nicaragua to Arkansas and South Central Los Angeles, GNN sheds light on the darkest secret of the Agency’s operational directorate. Cut to the ambient Hip Hop loops of DJ Trek-e, Crack The CIA features explosive footage of Mike Ruppert’s historical televised confrontation with CIA Director John Deutch.
Don’t blink!

Awards
2001 Streaming Media Festival Audience Award
2002 Sundance On-Line Film Festival (‘Live Action’ Category)
1st Annual Drug War Vigil Video Contest (Ist Prize)

[EVDebs]

16. Don't forget Alfred McCoy's Politics of Heroin, the classic

and tied into Tim Weiner's Blank Check

http://www.namebase.org/sources/PR.html

you read both books and come away with an end-run on the Constitution (call it a 'secret government') and a corruption of what our political and appropriations systems should be.

[mrgerbik]

22. and this video of Mike Ruppert...

which has probably been posted before (sorry in advance)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8797525979024486145&q=cia+9%2F11

[Gregorian]

10. Now all we need is a media.

And let's not forget the flight school that trained the 9/11 hijackers. Jeb, a jet with a huge stash of heroine (or perhaps cocaine, I forget). And it was caught by law enforcement, yet not brought to justice.
It makes the George Bush cocaine airplane story from a decade ago, seem like it's all part of some kind of Bush family drug running, money laundering thing.

If we had a media, this stuff would get noticed by people besides the vigilant.

[Up2Late]

12. I would help if we didn't have such an eager bunch of...

...of mods, moving even the smallest mention of 9/11 to the September 11 forum.

It's no wonder so few of us have heard of this story, it looks like they all keep getting moved out of GD to September 11.:mad:

[EVDebs]

17. Operation Mockingbird keeps getting in the way, along with PsyOps nt

[unpossibles]

20. don't forget Iran-Contra

although I suppose it could be argued that the arms were given away for humanitarian reasons, and not traded for coke...

[Canuckistanian]

11. "Royal Sons"

Hmmmm. Now, which family in Ameica has most been compared to royalty?

[DrDebug]

19. It is the Saudi royalty

Prince Nayif bin Fawwaz al-Shaalan al-Saud is probably hiding behind that company. ( http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/2006_04080426.php )

[Up2Late]

23. That was the first thing that I thought of too...

...but another post also mentioned "...Bushs act like they think they are royals...," which also seems like a possibility also.

Just sayin' :shrug:

[DrDebug]

24. It's a Saudi affair

The global drug trade has Saudis and Kuwaitis at the top. Royal Sons was filled with Saudis and Kuwaitis as the investors.

Bush sr. has made a quid-pro-quo arrangement and that the Saudi can use the CIA for their operations as long as they do all the financing.

[Old and In the Way]

31. Interesting......makes a lot of sense.

All those petro-dollars getting reinvested in cocaine smuggling. I wonder how $500MM gets laundered?

[DrDebug]

33. We've seen two companies in WTC which have a history of laundry

The money gets laundered by big, huge corporations who have so many billions that you can clean $50M (because they control the top part of the trade, so Venice probably skims off 10% or so).

In WTC2 there is Fireman's Fund Insurance Company - part of Allianz AG - and Myron Du Bain used to be the CEO of the company. Myron Du Bain and Willy Hilliard acquired Employers Health and Willy Hilliard and Erik Dekkers own Huffman Aviation (even though it is Adnan Khashoggi behind the scenes as well). (1)

We know that Fireman's Fund was used in New Zealand for laundry in the mid 70s (2) and Fireman's Fund is on the same floor as Marsh (48th floor WTC2). As far as Venice goes, it is the most likely candidate because Fireman's Fund is party of Allianz AG and that's a German company and can explain the amount of Germans, Dutch and Swiss in Venice.

To give you an idea of the laundry potential of a company like Allianz AG. The revenue of Allianz AG in 2004 was $130,000,000,000 (3) and that is without Fireman's and all their subsidiaries. So you can easily hide $50M in a company like that.

AIG is another source which was used for Iran-Contra (4). They are more or less comparable to Allianz since that company has a revenue of $108B a year, so they have the potential. The reason why Fireman's Fund is more likely to have been used for Venice is because there is a link with Willy Hilliard and it explains why Venice and Atta have so many Hamburg connections which makes it likely that their German branch opened a flight school there.

Sources:
1. http://sanderhicks.com/hilliarddub.html
2. http://www.theantechamber.net/XContent/OpalFile.htm
3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allianz
4. http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ciadrugs/part_2.html

[DrDebug]

34. Companies by revenue

To get an idea of the size of these insurance companies. People usually overlook them since their profit are less than the others, but in this case their in flowing stream makes it easy to hide a couple of millions.

Top 20 companies by revenue

 #  Company name                   Revenue in $B Industry
 1. ExxonMobil Corp.               $370.6 (2005) Oil
 2. Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.          $315.6 (2006) Retailer
 3. Royal Dutch Shell plc          $306.7 (2005) Oil
 4. British Petroleum              $255.2 (2005) Oil
 5. Chevron Corp                   $198.2 (2005) Cars
 6. DaimlerChrysler AG             $193.0 (2005) Cars
 7. General Motors Corp.           $192.6 (2005) Cars
 8. Toyota Motor Corp.             $188.0 (2006) Cars
 9. ConocoPhillips                 $183.3 (2005) Oil
10. Ford Motor Co.                 $177.0 (2005) Cars
11. Total S.A.                     $158.0 (2005) Oil
12. General Electric Co.           $149.7 (2005) Technology
13. Samsung Group                  $133.1 (2004) Technology
14. AXA                            $126.0 (2005) Insurance
15. Allianz AG                     $125.9 (2005) Insurance
16. Volkswagen AG                  $122.8 (2005) Cars
17. American International Group   $108.9 (2005) Insurance
18. Siemens AG                     $ 97.2 (2005) Technology
19. Nippon Telegraph and Telephone $ 96.0 (2006) Telecom
20. ING Group N.V.                 $ 91.7 (2005) Insurance

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_by_revenue

Oil, cars and technology companies are the biggest, however the insurance companies have more knowledge since investing is their business, so they transform money to investments and if necessary investments back to money.

So let's speculate that AIG and Allianz/Fireman's is doing this for al-Cokeda, because they have been involved in the past. Those two companies alone have an incoming stream of almost quarter trillion dollars. Is it possible to hide a part of the global drug trade in those companies? Because they can clean it. Mind you AXA is the biggest stockholder in American Airlines...

[DrDebug]

25. The structure of al-Cokeda

I call their drug running operation al-Cokeda nowadays, because they called their own drug runners al-Qaeda. The reason is that it is probably used for most intelligence groups as their funding. So it's a layer above national intelligence bureaus.

Al Cokeda is a transnational organization which often has the following structure:

Top level: Saudi Arabia and Kuwait with Adnan Khashoggi as the man behind the scenes.

Subtop level: Flight schools, airplanes, ships which are owned by a American- German-Dutch consortium. Just like the top level these guys seem to be untouchable as well.

Operational level: Various drug runners and local wholesale dealers. This group does not seem to be untouchable.

The drug money is laundered through various source. One of the most important ones seem to be American International Group.

[DrDebug]

14. Tom Delay is not directly involved, though. We have a big thread on it

Part of a series for the Conspiracy Theorist of Tomorrow.

al-Cokeda
Iran-Contra II

How the 9/11 flight schools were being used for narcotics trafficing to finance black operations like 9/11 which was covered up by labeling the drug dealers, terrorists. The drug import just continued after 9/11 as if nothing happened and were involved in the biggest cocaine shipment ever...


Mohammed Atta's girlfriend

Learn about drug planes being used also for illegal CIA rendition, the (hidden) owner of the flight school committing insider trading on 9/11, scams with non-existing companies which miraculously produce DC-9s, and much more...

Who Killed John O'Neill

Who needs a plane?

An Updated MIHOP

Who did 9/11? A question we all want to know answers to.
Meet the CIA of the 21st century. Privatized, independent and hidden from view.

• AIG as Money Laundering Inc.
  
• Marsh Crisis Consultancy as Terrorism Inc with Osama bin Laden played by Paul Bremer
  
• Kroll as the privatized CIA Inc.
  
• al-Cokeda as the Drug dealers in the Flight school who are later called terrorists in the OCT
  
  
• Learn how they all work together.
  
• Learn how they make fortunes on 9/11 with insider trading.
  
• Learn how sophisticated psyops ops and black ops is.
  
  
• Learn what the government and the OTCers don't want you to know

Video + large discussion: (it is better if you watch the video first)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x92675

Journal:
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/DrDebug

In dedication of the top anti-terrorism expert of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, John O'Neill

The video
Ty Rauber made it and it has one actor playing all the parts -a conspiracy theorist, a paranoid "they're after us" type, an OCTer, a philospher and they are all discussing 911-it's kind of like this forum. He ties Kroll, CIA, AIG together, speculated that Kroll is a sort of privatized CIA, running on drug money but able to do what the CIA can't because they aren't allowed. Some of this relates to the Hopsicker story.

Why are these Kroll types anti terrorism experts; where do they get the information? Then they show how people move between these corporations and CIA . Doesn't spend a lot of time on the hows and why's of the actual day, more about drugs insurance companies/ CIA and the piece de resistance -what Al Qaeda really is and what Mohammed Atta's function was, his opinion will make a lot of sense as to Atta's behavior.

This is all for the same video , I gave different links in case some didn't work:

http://www.wkjo.com
http://whokilledjohnoneill.com

Movie Downloads:
http://www.wkjo.com/downloads.html

Mirrors:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4755449627173127935
http://www.archive.org/details/Who_Killed_John_ONeill
http://ia300135.us.archive.org/1/items/Who...ed_John_ONeill

WTC 1 impact

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_World_Trade_Center_tenants

Ownership:

American International Group = Maurice "Hank" Greenberg
Marsh & McLennan = Jeffrey Greenberg
Ace = Evan Greenberg (only playing a minor role thus far)

Kroll always had AIG as shareholder and is currently part of Marsh.

Possible teams for 9/11:

October 11, 2001 Marsh established specialized terrorism team called Marsh Crisis Consultancy
The following teams were added to it: Control Risks Group, a British ex-SAS team and Versar homeland defense team. The same group could have known each other from 9/11

Kroll has military team in their company and merged with Armor Holdings on August 23rd thus adding Defence Systems Limited, another Private Military Corporation, to their operations, an ex-KGB team called Alpha Firm was earlier acquired by Defence Systems Limited.

That makes at least four teams which could have been used on 9/11.
Additional teams from the military could have been used as well.

They had the means to do this.

Marsh had full control on WTC1 where they occupied all floors.

Marsh had the top floor of the WTC2 "impact" and could have worked their way down, however the main occupant was Fuji bank with whom AIG did a lot of work and also featured in Iran-Contra.

WTC7 contained a CIA office and Kroll and AIG are very closely related to the CIA and it is very likely that Kroll is the privatized version of the CIA

The Pentagon was of course under their own control.

They had the opportunity to do this.

AIG/Kroll/Marsh are closely connected to the Bush administration, to Henry Kissinger.

AIG/Kroll/Marsh are also closely related to the Intelligence Community.

AIG/Kroll/Marsh capitalized on 9/11 and it was good for their business.

AIG was laundering drug money for al-Cokeda.

AIG was involved in the oil and gas line to Afghanistan

There is reason to believe that the Taliban either cut back on the drug trade or that they went into business for themselves. Either way the flow of heroin from Afghanistan was drastically limited.

Greenberg and Khasshogi had a business relation and benefited for the narcotics from Afghanistan and had interest in the oil and gas line as well

The Greenberg family and the Bush family are partners in fraud.

They had motive to do this.

Objectives:
There are main objectives to 9/11 and additional subgoals persuded that day. The main objectives are:
1. Enabling the war in Afghanistan
2. Bush administration gets an enormous popularity gain
3. Enabling Homeland security
4. Oil and drugs in Afghanistan
5. Massive insurance fraud
6. The missing trillions of the Pentagon
7. Added later: War in Iraq (not part of the original plan. See: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Richard_A._Clarke )

Sub goals:
1. Making Silverstream software owned by Marsh the standard risk software by inviting all experts over the whole world to Windows of the World.
2. Cantor/eSpeed was the #1 company in electronic bond-trading and suddenly Kyoto Mo takes over.
3. Some of the companies who survived were in some sort of problems which gets solved.
4. Massive destruction of evidence in the Enron scandal and many other scandals.

9/11 and Iran-Contra
There are many similarities between 9/11 and Iran-Contra. One could even say that the same blue print was used and the terror event added as a quick justification of their goals

Objectives of Iran-Contra:
1. October Surprise: President Ronald Reagan and Vice President George H.W. Bush
2. Guerrilla warfare in Central and South America
3. A war between Iraq and Iran

Objectives of 9/11:
1. Madame Butterfly and vote spoilage: President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard Cheney
2. A war with Afghanistan
3. Guerrilla warfare in Venezuela and Lebanon?

Bonuses (W. tries to double H.W.)
4. A war with Iraq

Not in the original plan, however on September 12, 2001, George W. Bush told Richard A. Clarke: "Go back over everything, everything. See if Saddam did this. See if he's linked in any way"
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Richard_A._Clarke
This is the probably reason why Germany, France and Canada bailed out, because they had given approval for Afghanistan and at least Germany played a part in the Venice scheme.

5. If you can rig one election, might as well take the next one also.
6. Iran? (option or coming soon...)

Why the Pentagon had to be included as well

By Minstrel Boy



They say I shot a man named Gray and took his wife to Italy.
She inherited a million bucks and when she died it came to me.
I can't help it if I'm lucky. - Bob Dylan

(...) At least among those with a mind for such things, it's fairly well- remembered that on September 10, 2001, Donald Rumsfeld made the shocking announcement that the Pentagon "couldn't track" $2.3 trillion of its transactions. "Iroquois" observes, "What's interesting to me is that he made his press release on a Monday. In DC, I always see bad news given on a Friday, usually late in the afternoon on Friday. The exception, of course, would be when someone happens to know that there is a far bigger story coming out."

And we know that Flight 77, allegedly piloted by an incompetent, made an aerobatic, spiralling descent over Washington, effecting a 270-degree turn to strike the Pentagon from a western approach at ground level. The side struck was the only one with an exterior wall hardened against attack, and was relatively empty while renovation continued. (...)

http://rigint.blogspot.com/2006/06/flight-of-capital.html

WTC building insurance and ownership
What were the 3 companies who insured the WTC?

AIG, Marsh and ACE. All run by Greenbergs at the time.

They then sold stakes of the original contract to their competition, a process called reinsuring. Once the towers came down, the reinsurers got caught holding the bag.

Who mortgaged the WTC? The Blackstone Group, headed by Peter J. Peterson, current head of the CFR. The Blackstone Group bought into Kroll in 1993 at the same time as AIG took majority control. Henry Kissenger sits on the board of the Blackstone Group.

On July 24, 2001, 6 weeks prior to 9/11 Silverstein took control of the lease of the WTC following the Port Authority decision on April 26. Silverstein owned all the buildings. Later he wanted to collect twice on $3.6 billion of policies because it were two seperate events. Only ACE, XL Reach - strategic partners of AIG and currently owned by AIG - included a WilProp in their clauses, so Silverstein "only" got $5 billion.

Larry Silverstein

Larry "Pull It" Silverstein

"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

- World Trade Center lease holder, Larry Silverstein, commenting on the collapse of Building 7 in the PBS documentary "America Rebuilds" that aired in September of 2002.

Or watch a video clip of them here:
* http://pfabf.com/uploads/larrysayspulli.wmv
* http://www.wtc7.net/pullit.html

[unblock]

15. mexican coke is great! made with real sugar instead of hfcs!

oh ... NEVERMIND!

:evilgrin:

[Greyskye]

18. Unfortunate ad placement?

:rofl:

Sheesh. Booted off to the 9/11 dungeon. :banghead:

[Up2Late]

26. Hey, I don't remember the dwarf "Cokie"

That is great, it couldn't happen to a more deserving Corporation.:evilgrin:

[psychopomp]

27. I alerted on this post and think others should, too

until it is moved out of the 911 forum. This is an exellent post and should be in GD where it can get more eyeballs.

My message:

Why was this moved to the 911 forum? It has nothing to do with 911. I think the mod looked at the madcow site and saw the ads to the right and left of the article for 911 books/videos and thought the article had something to do with 911. It doesn't. This is sloppy work and should be corrected.

[Up2Late]

28. I appreciate your effort, but the tread now has so much...

...9/11 conspiracy stuff posted to it, I doubt they would move it at this point.

If you want to try reposting it to GD or GD Politics, using the same or similar links, I'd give it a few kicks. I think if I tried to repost it, I'd probably get into some trouble.

I agree, it shouldn't have been moved and I don't really know why it was. Maybe it's programed into the software to find and move threads with 9/11 in them, or it might have been a certain mod who doesn't like me for some unknown reason, I don't know. But the last time I openly criticized a particular mod, the post got deleted.

[Up2Late]

29. Kick because...

what the hell.:kick:

[Marie26]

32. Kick!

This thread has a lot of great info - it's too bad it was booted to the dungeon.

[wildbilln864]

35. five tons!

regularly! What an enterprise!

[wildbilln864]

36. Is anyone payin attention...

kick!

[wildbilln864]

37. a reminder........n/t