Must Read New Article On Gov't Involvement in 9-11

[Ugnmoose]

http://www.tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=110&mode=&order=0&thold=0

Missile & remote control systems added to small jets before 9-11; same parts found at Pentagon

Two civilian defense contractor employees--told to remain silent--say other workers quietly retro-fitted missile and remote control systems onto A-3 jets at Colorado public airport prior to September 11 when similar A-3 parts much smaller than a Boeing 757 were found at Pentagon

Presidential candidate says scores of retired and active military and intelligence officials would testify before current grand jury probing government involvement in 9/11 attacks

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According to two civilian defense contractor employees working at commercial corporate facilities at Fort Collins-Loveland Municipal Airport (left), in the months before the September 11 attacks U.S. Air Force defense contractors brought in A-3 Sky Warrior aircraft under cover of darkness to be completely refitted and modified at the small civilian airport in Colorado.

The revelations are important evidence for a reportedly ongoing secret 9/11 probe because widely available Federal Emergency Management Administration (FEMA) photographs taken during the attacks clearly show that the few aircraft parts found at the Pentagon belonged to a small jet very similar to a modified A-3 Sky Warrior--not the American Airlines Boeing 757.

(snip) Here is the real kicker to the article, buried at the end.

We have heard reports indicating that the New York federal grand jury in Albany is so displeased with Spitzer and Morgenthau’s paucity of action and lack of subpoenas or indictments over 9/11 (given the evidence already handed over) that it has assumed its own independent constitutional and federal authority to take control of the criminal proceedings.

We were also told that Spitzer was dismissed from the grand jury hearing room at least once so that jurors could privately consider evidence of possible U.S. government treason, leaving questions as to whether the moser issue--or Spitzer's upcoming race for New York governor and his need for campaign contributions from the wealthy elite--may be holding back 9-11 criminal subpoenas and indictments.

[babsbunny]

1. And the plot thickens!!!

I love DU!!!

[indepat]

2. Sadly we the people, the Congress, and the MSM don't seem to want

a full investigation into the events surrounding 9-11.

[Ugnmoose]

3. It looks like that too is changing

One thing I can tell you since I am an ex-New Yorker. This Grand Jury is not going to lay down and roll over. And if subpoenas are issued and witnesses like this appear, watch out! Then you will really see the shit hit the fan. This thing just needs a little bit of traction to negate the perception that government involvement is a whacko conspiracy theory.

[1956]

4. I sure hope this gets attention!

I wonder who the prez candidate was?

[Ugnmoose]

5. A guy named Karl Schwarz

He is an Arkansas Republican whose company is a defense contractor involved in missile systems. He is running as an independent supposedly to help clean up the government. Lotsa luck!

[philb]

13. His company makes equipment similar to predator; is competitor with

predator. He says his equipment is better and less expensive but politics decides the contracts. Of course anyone who didn't get the contract would say similar. But he obviously understands the technology being discussed regarding 9/11

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[Frederik]

7. None of the links

to your pictures work.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

8. Interesting pics. I figured out why the link wouldn't work. Try this

http://www.criticalthrash.com/terror/crashthumbnails.html

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

9. Thanks for sharing the pics. What's odd is, that there are many

small fires that extend in length of the side of the building. ie

[DrDebug]

10. The German WDR is doubtful about Steve Riskus though

Analyse: Steve Riskus fuhr im Auto auf der Autobahn entlang des Pentagon und fotografierte unmittelbar nach dem Einschlag. Auf seiner Website ( criticalthrash.com), wo er die Bilder präsentiert, schreibt er: "I took these pictures seconds after the plane hit the Pentagon. I was traveling on route 27 towards 395 when the plane crossed my path from the right about 100ft in front of me and crashed into the Pentagon." Angenommen, sein Auto hätte tatsächlich eine Position gehabt, von der aus er das extrem niedrig fliegende Objekt in ca. 30 Metern Abstand vor sich durch die Frontscheibe hätte beobachten können, und angenommen, er hätte das Flugobjekt über eine Distanz von 200 Metern (was bei 30 Meter Entfernung schon viel ist) verfolgen können, hätte er für seine Beobachtungen bei einer Geschwindigkeit des Flugobjekts von 800 km/h weniger als eine Sekunde Zeit gehabt.

http://home.t-online.de/home/willy.brunner/WDRPentagon.htm

What it says that EVEN if his car (or at least the position from where the picture where taken) would have allowed him to see the plane, however the total duration which he could have seen it was LESS 1 second.

Edit: EVEN and LESS added. (My German isn't that good)

[Frederik]

11. At a speed of approximately 500 mph

I doubt he would be able to determine what kind of airplane it was, let alone what airline it belonged to. A-3s have engines under the wings - seen for a split second it could perhaps be mistaken for a 757. But who knows. Maybe Schwarz is on to something, maybe he's wrong or maybe he's just making it up. We'll have to wait and see I guess, if any evidence will be forthcoming.

[DrDebug]

12. Actually Karl Schwarz is pretty much past tense

I was actually talking about the picture which is different from the Karl reading. I think Spooked911 pretty much debunked it yesterday: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=40901&mesg_id=41038

There is no other reference then him and his integrity is in doubt as well.