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drpepper67 Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 01:58 PM
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Ohio Police threaten to execute permit holder.
http://ohioccwforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=53994

It gets worse from there. The officer tells my guy that "I should blast you right in the mouth." "I'm close to caving in your head." "You are a stupid human being." "How would you like it if I pull mine and stick it to your head." When speaking to another officer, he says "I hate these (expletive deleted) with their (gd) permits." And, again, later tells my client "I should have taken 2 steps back, put 10 rounds in your (expletive deleted) and left you lying there. I should have executed you, and I'd go home and sleep good tonight."
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 02:00 PM
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1. Is this another news source sponsored by Rupert Murdoch? eom
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drpepper67 Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 02:02 PM
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2. Click the link.....
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The Big Vetolski Donating Member (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 09:35 PM
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13. I DID click the link. It's as meaningless as a typical Facebook
post. What the hell is the source? What town was this in? What police department? This is more vague than Bush's budget or Saudi human rights proposals.
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eqfan592 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 11:39 AM
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18. The link to the video is down thread.
We'll wait while you remove the crow from your mouth....
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 02:18 PM
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3. You sound like the "material" Rupert is looking for. eom
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Bold Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 02:44 PM
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4. Nope, it appears to be sponsored by the officer's own dash cam.
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 04:52 PM
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7. Why don't you *actually read* what's at the link and get back to us?
I realize deliberate ignorance is fashionable in certain circles here, but that's above and beyond the call of duty...
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 08:28 PM
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22. Care to amend your comment now that the video is out?
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 02:57 PM
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5. I knew there was a reason I left Ohio in 1969 ...
Actually there are a lot of good reasons but I'll add this to the list.

I know a lot of cops in Florida and none of them act like this. Even when concealed carry was new in Florida, I don't remember hearing of any cases where a police officer treated a person with a concealed weapons permit with this much contempt. I wonder if these cops treat other minorities in the same fashion.

If this is actually on the cruiser video there is no excuse for why the cops involved are not out pounding the payment looking for a new job.

I am not in favor of all the foolish law suits we see in this country, but if I had been treated in such a manner and the evidence was on video I would sue unless the officers involved were fired. The money is irrelevant but if it took the threat of a large lawsuit to get those officers off the street, I would do it. If the city refused, I would carry out the threat and if I won I would then donate the money (except for my legal costs) to charity.

In Florida I was pulled over for any expired license tag six or seven years ago. I'm not required to notify the officer that I have a permit and am carrying, but I handed him my drivers license, my registration and insurance card and my concealed weapons permit. He just glanced at the permit and showed absolutely no concern. I got a ticket but the officer politely explained to me where I had to go to handle it. The officer was very professional and I appreciated it.

I suspect the renewal notification never made it to my mail box. I was living in Tampa at the time and it wasn't unusual to get mail for people who lived several streets from me. After the incident, I put a reminder on my computer calendar for my driver's license renewal.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 03:05 PM
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6. I think this bunch of swell guys is more typical of Florida cops:
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 05:33 PM
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9. Perhaps in Miami ...
I've lived in the Tampa Bay area of Florida and north Florida.

I've known people who had lived in Miami and they were glad to leave. Miami is not representative of all Florida.
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 04:56 PM
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8. OFCC is going to use this to try to remove the notification requirement.
Edited on Thu Jul-14-11 04:56 PM by friendly_iconoclast
And they should, that's just blatant deprivation of rights under color of law as well as false arrest...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 07:12 PM
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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 07:38 PM
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12. DU is not a Wacko Website.
Yup.
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 07:27 PM
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11. Can't wait to see the video on this. Any credible reports? Did anyone see why the guy was stopped?

Assuming anything actually happened.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 08:28 PM
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23. Well, something really did happen it would seem.
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larwdem Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 09:37 PM
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14. what
how would you like it if I stick mine in your head?

was the officer talking about his dick or do you think your client my have pulled his gun.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 09:38 PM
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15. I really doubt this story without more proof. The police video can be requested and shown.n-t
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drpepper67 Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 07:23 AM
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16. Here's the Video for all you doubters.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 11:37 AM
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17. That cop's next line should be, "You want fries with that?" n/t
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 12:19 PM
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19. And the deniers will pretend they never even saw this thread.
I've noticed that gun control advocacy these days involves regular use of the Memory Hole.
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 12:20 PM
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20. Direct YouTube link to the video:
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 12:34 PM
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21. Updated forum topic..
http://ohioccwforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=54153

Some things from the video stand out:
-The permit holder repeatedly tried to inform the officers and was told to shut up
-The officer threatened to beat one of the passengers
-What was the probable cause for the search?
-Who searches a car without asking the driver to exit?
-Officer threatens to harass the driver any time he sees the driver again

Roid rage + god complex
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