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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 12:58 PM
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New Rule Opens National Forest to Roads (including wilderness)
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Bush administration, in one of its biggest decisions on environmental issues, moved Thursday to open up nearly a third of all remote national forest lands to road building, logging and other commercial ventures.

The 58.5 million acres involved, mainly in Alaska and in western states, had been put off limits to development by former President Clinton, eight days before he left office in January 2001.

Under existing local forest management plans, some 34.3 million acres of these pristine woodlands could be opened to road construction. That would be the first step in allowing logging, mining and other industry and wider recreational uses of the land. Under proposed rules, new management plans have to be written for the other 24.2 million acres before road building can commence.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/R/ROADLESS_FORESTS?SITE=MNMAN&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Let the raping begin
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 01:01 PM
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1. Damn him.
:mad:
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 01:18 PM
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2.  Stewards of the Earth
Doesn't the Red God Bible preach that?
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 01:26 PM
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3. They prefer "dominion over land and animals"
Edited on Thu May-05-05 01:32 PM by Viking12
Genesis 1;26: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

To them it means that God gives man free rein to do anything he wants to the planet, bend it to his uses and abuses, rape it of all its beauty and diversity—for his own benefit.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 01:31 PM
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4.  I liked the would prefer
You nailed the theocrats perfectly. Good job.
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doodadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 01:35 PM
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5. Speaking of rape.....
The Bush administration also just opened The National Monument in Sequoia National Park here to the logging industry. Bastard!

There is a huge mountain down below us that has been bought by an aggregate mining company. They plan to level it. This mountain is the first thing you see going up to King's Canyon and Sequoia National Parks (Hwy. 180, the only way up here), and is a major tourist thoroughfare. It is also a sacred site to the local Native tribes here, and burial sites are located there.
I've written to Fresno Co. Planning Commission, and tried to get my neighbors to do the same--if nothing else, for the sake of self-interest. They are going to be dynamiting, and big gravel trucks running back and forth, snarling traffic worse than the tourists do.
No response from neighbors. Guess I'm going to have to get involved with the EarthFirst folks. There are many people trying to stop this disaster. To read more:
http://www.sierranevadaearthfirst.org/main.asp?goto=openNews.asp&nid=25
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 01:39 PM
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6. Environmental causes
I am going to have to reevalutae just who i give me ten percent too. DO you have a listing of good environmental agencies who wouldn't mind a small say five dollar monthly donation amount?
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doodadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 01:46 PM
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7. There's a number of them that would love any donation
A few great places to start:
National Resources Defense Council
http://www.nrdc.org/
The Sierra Club
http://www.sierraclub.org

You can also sign up for their email newsletters and alerts.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:34 PM
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12. Cool
I heard that there was some sort of minimum on the sieria club thanks for debunking that myth. I allready give a small amount to www.savechinatigers.org but it's allways good to get involved with at home issues.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 09:36 AM
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14. you might consider the League of Conservation Voters
There is something to be said for the premise that the best conservation dollar spent is the dollar that goes directly to conservation politics.

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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 01:50 PM
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8. Summary: National Forest Roadless Areas
Edited on Thu May-05-05 02:50 PM by IChing
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Forest Service's inventory of so-called roadless areas in national forests includes lands within 38 states and the U.S. territory of Puerto Rico: these numbers are in thousands example alabama is 13,000 acres

Alabama, 13 acres.

Alaska, 14,779 acres.

Arizona, 1,174 acres.

Alabama, 0 acres

Arkansas, 95 acres.

California, 4,416 acres.

Colorado, 4,433 acres.

Florida, 50 acres.

Georgia, 63 acres.

Idaho, 9,322 acres.

Illinois, 11 acres.

Indiana, 8 acres.

Kentucky, 3 acres.

Louisiana, 7 acres.

Maine, 6 acres.

Michigan, 16 acres.

Minnesota, 62 acres.

Mississippi, 3 acres.

Missouri, 25 acres.

Montana, 6,397 acres.

Nevada, 3,186 acres.

New Hampshire, 235 acres.

New Mexico, 1,597 acres.

North Carolina, 172 acres.

North Dakota, 266 acres.

Oklahoma, 13 acres.

Oregon, 1,965 acres.

Pennsylvania, 25 acres.

Puerto Rico, 24 acres.

South Carolina, 8 acres.

South Dakota, 80 acres.

Tennessee, 85 acres.

Texas, 4 acres.

Utah, 4,013 acres.

Vermont, 25 acres.

Virginia, 394 acres.

Washington, 2,015 acres.

West Virginia, 202 acres.

Wisconsin, 69 acres.

Wyoming, 3,257 acres.

TOTAL: 58,518 acres.

© 2005 The Associated Press http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/R/ROADLESS_FORESTS_GLANCE?SITE=MNMAN&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 06:31 PM
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10. 58,518 acres is all the roadless we have
and they need to muck that up, too?
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 06:53 PM
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11. [B] you need to add three zeros[/B]
58,518,000 acres I said that in the post.
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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 01:59 PM
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9. Have I said lately how much I hate this administration?
This time in history will go down as the American Dark Ages.

And our children will hate us for it...

Hopefully the Renaissance is somewhere in the near future.
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 02:17 AM
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13. Yeah, like 3 years from now.
:grouphug:
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Goose79 Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 09:06 AM
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15. As a forester, I don't have a problem with doing some management.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 09:51 AM
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16. Define "some". n/t
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