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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:44 AM
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I want white conservatives voting Democratic
White fundamentalist Christians.

White male Chamber of Commerce/Club for Growth types who have kind of an entitlement mentality.

White bread families who shut themselves away out in the exurbs.

How do you get these people voting Democratic?

The floor is open people.
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Allenberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:49 AM
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1. Quite controversial, but it's something I believe in.
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Allenberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:54 AM
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2. Here's my reasoning
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 11:08 AM
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3. THE FLOOR IS OPEN PEOPLE
Comments?
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Squeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 11:41 AM
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4. Matthew 25:31-46
When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: and before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: and he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: for I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: for I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:53 PM
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10. Amen (nt)
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 11:53 AM
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5. Talk to them about the reality of their own lives
Don't fall into the trap about discussing abortion, god and guns.

Talk about the facts of life....ask them questions.

1. Do you have 6 months salary packed away in a bank in cash?
2. Do you own your home?
3. Are you able to cover all your expenses and have extra left over every month?
4. Can you save?
5. Do you have health care?

When it comes down to it, we have let a lot of people who would probably vote Democratic based on just the harsh realities of life, slip away from us because we don't address what is real to them.

Here in PA there are a lot of democratic voters who aren't exactly my kind of democrats, but they vote democratic based on economics. Note...they aren't my kind of democrats cuz they have racist and misogynistic tendencies.

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Allenberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 12:34 PM
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7. Pittsburgh is a shining example of your last paragraph
It's still a very much so segregated and racist city, and quite homophobic in alot of areas.
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:45 PM
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16. Amen - how true n/t
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BamaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:08 PM
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14. I think this is the way
to get thru to them in the South too.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 11:56 AM
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6. One of two options
Scare them with the Latinos

or

Ask them ;-) why it was that Jesus never married.

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:43 PM
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8. The floor is open people
white conservatives. People who live by Fox News and Rush Limbaugh.

OK now. Ideas for getting them into the Democratic camp will be taken here.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:52 PM
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9. Haven't abortion rates gone up ~25% since Bush took office? (nt)
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:41 PM
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11. White male conservatives voting Democratic
Let's pick it up people. Ideas:
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:46 PM
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12. fine. change them,
not the party.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:59 PM
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13. Come on people, we need to get those white male conservatives voting Dem.
That's the vote that I want.

It's kind of a priority for me.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:15 PM
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15. You want to get them...
Then dropping about half the platform, including Minority and Women's rights, etc. would do it, however, then we might as well throw in the towel and turn into the GOP, what would be the difference? Believe me, I wish it weren't this way, but 90% of White Male Conservatives are bigots and sexist in the extreme. I live in an area surrounded by these assholes, they are better off in their own damn universe, they are barely human to me.
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