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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:27 AM
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Mike Malloy Asked Last Night...Please Respond


What can we legally do to rid this nation of the scum that is in charge.........

We must face reallity that unless we find a republican senator or HR to introduce articles of impeachment(any suggestions WHO!) we will need to use more creative legal means........


What are your thoughts.

Please provide answers....who know Mike might read this.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:29 AM
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1. 2006 elections...

...frankly are the only hope, I think. And we all know what Diebold has done to fix elections.


:(
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:36 AM
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3. We have got to find a way to outcheat them
We have to have some pretty smart hackers on our side - after all we are the liberal elite, the educated ones. Isn't that what the republican candidates keep feeding their base to get them all riled up. We don't know how to do hard work/an honest day's labor, right? So if anyone is to believe the republicans, with all our schooling, we should be able to out-cheat them.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:41 AM
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7. 2000 and beyond were fraudulent elections, why do you think they will
allow fair ones now?

'THOSE WHO VOTE DECIDE NOTHING. THOSE WHO COUNT THE VOTES DECIDE EVERYTHING."

-Joseph Stalin
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:47 AM
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10. don't "count" on it. Diebold will...
we no longer live in a democracy. election fraud is the standard. electronic voting has put an end to our representative democracy. this is the most important issue but gets no attention. don't expect anything to change in 06 or 08 unless we get rid of Diebold.

GB
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 12:05 PM
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20. My only hope is this:
Now that we basically qualify as a third-world country, the Carter Center will be able to monitor the elections.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:36 AM
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2. Everyone in Congress is up for re-election next year
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 09:38 AM by rocknation
And I'm sure that enough of them are worried about their job security. I mean, what's to stop some ambitious Republican, never mind a Democrat, from taking their place? All the candidate would have to do is associate the incumbent Repub with Bush's insanity and ask if they want more of the same.

So we launch Operation Impeach--we simply ask everyone to call AND write their Senate and House reps and tell them, "VOTE IMPEACHMENT IN OR I'LL VOTE YOU OUT"!

On edit: What's the minimum number of Repub House votes we would need?

:headbang:
rocknation
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:37 AM
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4. Hmn....
Bush has stacked every possible position of authority that could act against him with the most morally bankrupt, corrupt and vile people in recent memory. This is a tough question.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:39 AM
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5. We're all from New Orleans. DC should become "refugee city" until * gone
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:40 AM
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6. Secession from the union. n/t
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growlypants Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:22 AM
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14. Im with ya on that one. I really am.
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:44 AM
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8. There is no legal way to eliminate the scum now in charge.
With a ruthless and immoral enemy, a brain-dead population, rigged vote-counts, DLC'ers in charge of the "opposition" party and a media acting more like Pravda than Pravda ever did, it is delusional to believe that any legitimate means will save the US from careening further down the path to complete fascism. The time for playing by the rules is long past.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:46 AM
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9. Try these naive, childish ideas of an idiot (that's me)
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:30 AM
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17. at least you are bouncing around ideas, trying to find a solution
rather than :banghead:

kudos to you.

dp
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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:15 AM
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11. Can the LA Atty General charge him with negligent homicide? n/t
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:19 AM
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12. Nothing, sadly
Between the media monopoly and the rigged elections, I fear that it's going to have to burn down, probably with a world war on our soil. It's amazing how bad things have gotten so quickly. I can say that we tried our best though.
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growlypants Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:21 AM
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13. Is there no logal action we can take?? This is what I dont understand
So if MY government, elected BY the people FOR the people, goes wack-o like this one apparently has, there are no legal recourses for the PEOPLE to take?? WE are being put in danger by these people. We need a lawyer to look into this. So if the Rethugs decided to appoint BU$H to a dictatorlike position, then there is NOTHING we can do??? There must be SOME legal recourse available to us.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:23 AM
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15. it does look like Frist is distancing himself from *
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 10:24 AM by LSK
What are the odds of him being the one behind impeachment??? He is running in 08 and if he was the one behind impeaching the most hated man in the country, he would garner a lot of votes.

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confuddled Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:28 AM
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16. Urge your Reps to co-sponsor/support H.Res.375
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 11:19 AM by confuddled
Representative Barbara Lee's resolution of inquiry into the Downing Street Memo/minutes (Seems like ancient history at this point,doesn't it?) may be a first step in the right direction.
See: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:HE00375:@@@P at the Thomas sight.

Frankly, having lost all faith in the system, I haven't been following this, but my original understanding was that this "resolution of inquiry" might lead to articles of impeachment - for whatever that's worth in this republican controlled country. In any case, this would require this administration's response to inquiry into the Downey Street Memo - again, for whatever that's worth.
Apparently some action is required on this by 9/15 per a PDA.org action alert.

Edit to add this link:
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/902
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:33 AM
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18. You'd think there would be a means by which "the people",...
,...can petition a court for the removal of any elected official for violating the Constitution and/or breach of oathes of office. There are provisions for local elected officials but I know of no provisions for the feds.

I hate putting all my eggs in one basket by depending upon Fitz to stop the abuses by this regime.

There are so damn many instances of fraud, it's incredible and impeachable. If congress fails to take action, what other authority is appointed to do the right thing? :shrug: I wish I knew. Why isn't the judicial branch authorized to step in and balance powers behaving as tyrants rather than "representatives"?
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:43 AM
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19. Stop paying federal income tax
It's not "legal" unless you look at the no taxation without representation aspect.

It would only be worthwhile if millions did it, otherwise only a handful end up in jail for nothing.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:03 PM
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21. Yes, we have the power to rid the nation of this scum!
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 08:07 PM by Independent_Liberal
I have it right here. The solution to our problem. Something we've always had the power to do and never knew we had it.

www.recallthecongress.com

>>>>snip

To impeach George Bush for war crimes and covertly implementing PNAC, we have to get a handle on our congress men and women.

This website is created to organize local state efforts to petition the Secretary of State or other official of each state in which laws have been established for the recall process of public officials. There are 26 states in which such laws have been established leaving 24 states in which an effort is required to petition the state legislature for enactment of such a law or alternatively where the initiative has been made law to use that vehicle to bring each state of the nation into a parity of power of its citizens to control the Federal government.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Please act now folks! The future of our lives, our country and our children depend on it!
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:11 PM
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22. About the right of recall...
http://www.recallthecongress.com/further_explanation_of_the_right.htm

>>>>snip

FURTHER EXPLANATION OF THE RIGHT OF RECALL

( For the less legally Minded )

The only assurance to prevent the hijacking of the country in the future is for Americans to assert the power of recall of congress members who refuse to abide by the Constitution and the will of the masses of the people in their inept support of a government gone awry.

Contrary to myth, Congress people can be recalled by their constituents. Any power not enumerated in the Constitution is reserved to the people. Recall is one of those powers.

In those states where there is a law establishing procedure to invoke the recall, it is available to the people to initiate it. In those
states where it is not procedurally established by law, the local state legislatures need to establish a procedural law whereby the people can initiate it. It has nothing to do with local legislators demanding something of D.C.

As an alternative to a recall procedure against a Congressperson, any member of congress can make a private unilateral employment contract with his/her constituents to pledge a certain conduct with penalties for failure to perform. ( a court ordered enforcement of the terms of the breach of contract or fired from job )

We the people can do it. You can help!
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:14 PM
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23. You'd think the Congressional slate from Louisiana might step in
they must have a fair number of Republicans who are seething right now. I know they have a Republican Senator, though he has sure been conspicuously absent.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:52 AM
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24. Political removal is better. The world is watching.
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