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wli
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:46 AM Original message |
This is the death of democracy in America. This is the end. |
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:47 AM Response to Original message |
1. I can only quietly recommend this post. My analysis exactly |
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ClayZ
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:58 AM Response to Original message |
2. Hell and High Water have Come! |
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niallmac
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Sun Sep-04-05 09:02 AM Response to Reply #2 |
56. Heil and high water. |
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:58 AM Response to Original message |
3. Oh, good grief. Stop whining. |
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wli
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:59 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Feel free to suggest a method of holding them accountable. n/t |
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:01 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. there has been a tremendous amount of apathy in this country |
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wli
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:07 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Trouble is the criminals have total control of the government. |
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katahdin
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Sun Sep-04-05 12:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
64. Criminal charges |
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wli
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Mon Sep-05-05 02:10 AM Response to Reply #64 |
104. Rumsfeld got a genocide charge dropped... |
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Brundle_Fly
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:04 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Agreed |
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Prodemsouth
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:30 AM Response to Reply #8 |
28. Are you from the south? I don't think they will lose that big down |
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AverageJoe
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Sun Sep-04-05 08:40 AM Response to Reply #28 |
50. I hate to agree with this, but I must |
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Qibing Zero
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Sun Sep-04-05 08:45 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Yes, and I know florida is not overall 'the south', but |
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MADem
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:01 PM Response to Reply #50 |
72. No one EVER thought they would turn on Nixon |
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DBoon
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:05 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. There are no Barry Goldwaters in the Republican Party now |
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King Coal
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Mon Sep-05-05 03:51 AM Response to Reply #74 |
123. Hagel??? |
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wli
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:04 AM Response to Reply #123 |
128. Doubtful. He has too large a stake in Diebold et al. n/t |
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Qibing Zero
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Alright, yes, we all see it - even many of the blind ones before. |
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wli
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:10 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Tell me what a protest is supposed to accomplish. |
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Qibing Zero
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:14 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. This has been running through my mind the past few days. |
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ClayZ
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:23 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Ukraine Protest |
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wli
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:33 AM Original message |
This is a story of a protest happening, but not its results. |
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ClayZ
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:39 AM Response to Original message |
36. Orange Revolution |
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wli
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:40 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. I'm jealous of the Ukraine already. |
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ClayZ
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:45 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Now more people are outraged! |
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Qibing Zero
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:38 AM Response to Reply #19 |
35. Perhaps you can enlighten me further, |
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wli
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:39 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Bush's head + another figurehead is the most I expect myself. n/t |
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Mon Sep-05-05 02:19 AM Response to Reply #37 |
106. I've been saying this one for a while. |
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:26 AM Response to Reply #12 |
61. I guess maybe you missed the sixties. Protests helped end the Vietnam |
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wli
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Mon Sep-05-05 02:09 AM Response to Reply #61 |
103. Okay, please explain how they ended the Vietnam war. n/t |
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bunny planet
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:23 AM Response to Reply #103 |
133. Didn't say they ended it, I said they were a contributing factor in ending |
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Autonomy
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Sun Sep-04-05 12:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
68. Heh heh, fascist cockroaches. |
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Mr_Spock
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:29 PM Response to Reply #68 |
91. Well said |
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wli
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Mon Sep-05-05 02:12 AM Response to Reply #91 |
105. Far from attempting to "bring anyone down" |
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MADem
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Sun Sep-04-05 03:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
71. I'm with you, NOW is the time, CARPE DIEM |
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wli
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Mon Sep-05-05 02:20 AM Response to Reply #71 |
107. Rushing headlong into massacres and death camps is a losing strategy. |
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Mr_Spock
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
87. Tell me about it - who would be trying to make us quit? |
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wli
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Mon Sep-05-05 02:21 AM Response to Reply #87 |
108. I am no plant. I'm also not saying to "quit." |
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ChiciB1
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
98. Hand Me A Musket! |
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pretzel4gore
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:01 AM Response to Original message |
6. oh c'mon, bullys are cowards.... |
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wli
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:14 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Unfortunately the calculus of casualties doesn't work that way. |
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pretzel4gore
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Sun Sep-04-05 06:04 AM Response to Reply #16 |
45. don't empower them |
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MADem
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:08 PM Response to Reply #16 |
75. You act like "the military" is NOT US |
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wli
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Mon Sep-05-05 02:24 AM Response to Reply #75 |
109. Unfortunately "the military" as stated isn't limited to native recruits. |
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Qibing Zero
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:02 AM Response to Original message |
7. Oh don't we all wish we could cast this off and say it's wrong. |
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smurfygirl
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:08 AM Response to Original message |
11. if we all leave, who will stay to help put up a fight |
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wli
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:15 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. I'm convinced it's not possible to fight them. |
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barbaraann
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:25 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Live free or die. |
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StellaBlue
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
80. LIVE FREE OR DIE |
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stickdog
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:26 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Then you are simply a coward & you should learn to love Big Brother. |
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wli
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:30 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Suicide-by-cop vs. suicide-by-self-lobotimization is no choice. |
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stickdog
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:32 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Organize people. This is a battle of wills and memes. (nt) |
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zoeybug
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:10 AM Response to Original message |
13. Hell, I'm hoping it's a new beginning |
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Tsiyu
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:13 AM Response to Original message |
14. Bullshit |
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wli
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:20 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. The foreign troops aspect is one I've already considered. |
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Tsiyu
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:33 AM Response to Reply #18 |
33. There are too many BADASS Democrats |
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:02 AM Response to Reply #18 |
127. I've been worried about the troop situation. I heard about that, too. |
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Sun Sep-04-05 09:02 AM Response to Reply #14 |
55. we'll be hampered by teevee and marketing |
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natrat
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Sun Sep-04-05 09:16 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. tv is like mass hpnotism |
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LibertyorDeath
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:05 AM Response to Reply #55 |
129. You got it. |
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MADem
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
73. Thank you for speaking up for the Regular Joes, and Janes |
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wli
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Mon Sep-05-05 02:26 AM Response to Reply #73 |
110. My "the military" moniker included those you would not |
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mogster
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:23 AM Response to Original message |
20. No, it isn't |
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Hubert Flottz
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Sun Sep-04-05 09:06 AM Response to Reply #20 |
57. Great Post! |
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barbaraann
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:23 AM Response to Original message |
21. We've never had a real democracy. |
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Qibing Zero
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:26 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I agree |
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barbaraann
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:28 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I can imagine because I lived through the VietNam years. |
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wli
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:28 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. I agree with almost all of this. |
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barbaraann
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:33 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. I'd say we have a chance. |
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Zodiak
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Sun Sep-04-05 12:37 PM Response to Reply #32 |
66. as a football fan.... |
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StellaBlue
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
83. I agree |
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StellaBlue
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:25 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. 100& agree |
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pretzel4gore
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Mon Sep-05-05 03:17 AM Response to Reply #21 |
120. true...in the US post ww2 for about 35 years |
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wli
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Mon Sep-05-05 03:45 AM Response to Reply #21 |
121. I suppose it is true that democracy has always been an illusion. |
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:30 AM Response to Original message |
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:35 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. But the very story you cite is long gone from most's memories. |
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MadeinOhio
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:40 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Not anymore...... |
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:41 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Investigated right now? URL's? n/t |
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:46 AM Response to Reply #40 |
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Sun Sep-04-05 06:09 AM Response to Reply #38 |
47. So far as I know, Robert Kennedy, Jr. is still alive |
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Sun Sep-04-05 06:08 AM Response to Reply #29 |
46. You mean JFK, Jr., the "plane crash." |
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Sun Sep-04-05 08:39 AM Response to Reply #29 |
49. I think you mean JFK, Jr. His cousin, RFK, Jr. is alive & well, I hope |
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Sun Sep-04-05 08:44 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Yeah you're right that's who I meant. n/t |
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:30 AM Response to Original message |
30. Think I'll stay. But you go right ahead. |
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:41 AM Response to Original message |
41. I think your post is that of the alarmist position for sure... |
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wli
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:43 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Thanks for the polite disagreement. |
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Sun Sep-04-05 06:20 AM Response to Original message |
48. this isn't planned |
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Mon Sep-05-05 02:30 AM Response to Reply #48 |
111. Well, IMHO the only part that wasn't really planned on was... |
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Sun Sep-04-05 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
53. Partially agreed, but not all can 'run for your lives' e.g. New Orleans |
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Mon Sep-05-05 02:45 AM Response to Reply #53 |
114. It will not be equitable, but if the assumptions hold, there's no choice |
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Mon Sep-05-05 03:49 AM Response to Reply #53 |
122. and what about the cats? |
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Sun Sep-04-05 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
54. Impeach CEO Bush-Now |
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:11 PM Response to Reply #54 |
77. Oh, you've emailed Senator Durbin? |
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Sun Sep-04-05 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:20 PM Response to Reply #59 |
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Sun Sep-04-05 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
60. Actually, crazy as it might sound I see this |
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Sun Sep-04-05 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
62. Or start rehearsing historical quotes: "I regret I have but one life .. |
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Sun Sep-04-05 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
63. No it's not the end. |
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katahdin
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Sun Sep-04-05 12:33 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. What Agency Can File Criminal Charges |
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Sun Sep-04-05 01:12 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. We can! |
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wli
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Mon Sep-05-05 02:48 AM Response to Reply #69 |
115. I've no reason to believe our reps will listen. |
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Sun Sep-04-05 03:18 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. DU'ers working on it already! |
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mnhtnbb
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Sun Sep-04-05 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
67. We've bought land in Panama |
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RBHam
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
76. See you in the gulag |
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Mr_Spock
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
78. Uggh, do we have people here that believe this crap? |
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RBHam
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:27 PM Response to Reply #78 |
90. The truth is staring you right in the face. |
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:35 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Fine - try to destroy DU and the Democratic party with your paranoia |
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Mon Sep-05-05 02:57 AM Response to Reply #92 |
117. You're gravely mistaken regarding the motives. I speak at face value. |
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Mon Sep-05-05 02:34 AM Response to Reply #78 |
113. It's not idiotic at all. |
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
79. Nope. Ain't goin'. Ain't quittin'. They will have to kill me first. |
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
81. This Boy Won't Run! |
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Mr_Spock
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:23 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. Tell me about it |
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
84. I'm making a list of crazy people who agree with this crap. |
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wli
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Mon Sep-05-05 02:51 AM Response to Reply #84 |
116. Please, rationally debunk it if it is so thoroughly wrong. |
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Qibing Zero
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Mon Sep-05-05 03:52 AM Response to Reply #84 |
124. There's no need to insult people on the basis that... |
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
86. I'm not letting these fuckers take my country. |
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
89. Though many of us may die in this battle to recover |
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
93. Only if we give up on it! |
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wli
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Mon Sep-05-05 03:02 AM Response to Reply #93 |
118. That is not necessarily true. |
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Mon Sep-05-05 03:54 AM Response to Reply #118 |
125. While I'm not sure I agree completely, this was very well said. |
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
94. I can't do that. |
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wli
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Mon Sep-05-05 03:04 AM Response to Reply #94 |
119. There is a rather serious tactical question involved. |
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
95. NATIONAL STRIKE |
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The2ndWheel
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Sun Sep-04-05 04:55 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Just a day's worth? |
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
97. no, it isn't... |
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
99. I will fight them in the streets before I flee. No fascist freaks... |
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
100. I can't afford to get out. |
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:18 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. So since I am here and CAN'T go |
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Sun Sep-04-05 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
102. Don't Run Get a Gun |
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Mon Sep-05-05 02:34 AM Response to Original message |
112. america has never REALLY been into democracy anyway... |
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Mon Sep-05-05 03:54 AM Response to Original message |
126. While it's bad, it's not this bad. Not nearly this bad. |
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:13 AM Response to Reply #126 |
130. It's not "drama" per se, but "what is the logical conclusion of this?" |
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:15 AM Response to Original message |
131. Nope. They can kill me where I stand. I'm not moving an inch. |
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:31 AM Response to Original message |
132. "Bring out your dead!! The Man With No Face cometh!!!" |
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
134. I hate this kind of stuff |
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Mon Sep-05-05 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
135. Locking |
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