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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 01:16 PM Original message |
Help REFUTE the FALLACY that Cooper & Miller are First Amendment MARTYRS > |
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bear425 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. Good succinct letter - and exactly the way I feel, too. n/t |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 01:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I don' t know what this org is |
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bear425 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 01:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I'd be interested to hear their response. Hope you get one. n/t |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
3. You answered your own question. The criminal here is not a |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 01:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Wilson not only told the govt what they didn't want to hear, but the world |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 09:53 AM Response to Reply #6 |
36. Fitzgerald told the Washington Post that his investigation |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. Perfect response. |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 01:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. So who is promoting this fallacy? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. I think it's just a knee-jerk reaction. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 10:17 AM Response to Reply #12 |
46. i would think that any< real> journalist |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 01:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Good response. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
8. Your response is perfect. |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I was thinking maybe they're a RW group but it's found by McChesney! |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Yes. |
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lockdown (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 08:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. Daniel Ellsberg agrees there's no comparison |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 09:59 AM Response to Reply #27 |
41. Right. |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
11. Would you please sent your letter to the Star Tribune? |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 01:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. you are welcome to copy and paste |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
14. Amen, Stephanie! |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 01:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. And the retaliation happened after Wilson's article in the NY TIMES |
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warrens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
17. This guy had a great column on this subject |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 01:59 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Thanks, that's great - EXCERPT> |
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Serial Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
18. A GREAT quote to use |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. And not to protect govt officials when THEY are the abusers! |
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Serial Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 03:05 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Exactly .... |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
21. Whistle blower exposes a crime - journalist protects to the extent they. |
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Generator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 03:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Good post and thanks for the opening post to bring this up |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 08:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. When you say "she and her CIA front company" - you mean V. Plame |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 09:11 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. I am one who believes her outing was to close down her teams' |
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countingbluecars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
24. Great post. |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
25. One more time: SCOTUS SET THE PRECEDENT IN 1972!!! |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
28. I also wrote to them. they are misguided on this issue |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 09:20 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Son of Sam is my new argument |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
30. Excellent, Stephanie -- this has been making me nuts. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-05-05 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
32. *yelling* HEY STEPHANIE !!! - Have You Seen THIS Yet, Might Help !!! |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 09:40 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Thanks very much |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 10:10 AM Response to Reply #34 |
45. Here's Another: |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
33. Fitzgerald himself explains it for you > |
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ProfessorPlum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
35. Excellent letter |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 09:54 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. They are having a knee-jerk response to Karl's spin |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
38. Stephanie - THANK YOU. This whole issue had my head spinning |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
39. NOMINATED |
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Blue Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
40. I can't believe the Free Press is defending a reporter... |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
42. Did the public really have the right to know? |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
43. THE FREE PRESS REPLIES - HELP ME CHANGE THEIR MINDS >>> |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 10:23 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Here is my response so far - help me with it please > |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 10:26 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. I wish I was as articulate as you |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
44. my letter to free press , i recieved it as well and i was fire engine |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
49. my response from a few days ago. |
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prairierose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
50. Here is what I sent..... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
51. The Free Press and Lawyers guild are right. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 11:14 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Sorry. Simply Don't Agree |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 12:48 PM Response to Reply #52 |
64. I beg to differ. Violating secret clearances is breaking the law. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 01:31 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. And Yet, He Spent How Much Time In Jail |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 11:20 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. their sources were the crime, and the criminals |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 01:07 PM Response to Reply #53 |
67. Journalists are not "obligated". No one says they are. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 11:33 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. what is really disgusting is.. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 11:38 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. no the freepress is wrong! |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 12:52 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. Daniel Ellsberg was committing 15 crimes. |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 12:57 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. But in this case Wilson is Ellsberg and Rove is Nixon |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 01:11 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. And, it has come out that he did so. |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 01:18 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. No, because in that case the source would be a whistle-blower |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
54. perfect. nt |
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sunnystarr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
57. Where is the petition that supports Fitzgerald? |
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WLKjr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
58. You hit the nail right on the head, and hard. |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
59. Reportedly both Cooper's and Miller's contact(s) waived cofidentiality |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
60. I like the idea of a federal shield law for journalists |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 12:26 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. But who qualifies? What if Rove leaks classified info to Gannon/Guckert? |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 12:28 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. kick |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
61. Jailing Judith Miller will not have a chilling effect on honest reporting. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
69. it seems we at du are the only ones getting this |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
72. Thanks, Stephanie. We are on the same wave length today. |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-06-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. I already posted in it! |
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