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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 03:16 PM
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is the mainstream media AFRAID to call Rudolph a Christian Terrorist?
eric rudolph, who confessed to 4 bombings and two deaths, a christian zealot terrorist, white, cute, and like so many thousands of others roaming around freely.

yet, i don't hear the word's 'christian', or 'terrorist' used at all in reference to him.

he terrorized randomly, and specifically. he hates gays, blacks, all non whites, and the government.

eric robert rudolph is a christian terrorist.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 03:18 PM
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1. RIGHT, cause there is no such thing as a christian terrorist.
Obviously a christian can't be a terrorist, that would mean the US would be misguided. /sarcasm
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 03:19 PM
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2. They've been ordered not to call him a terrorist
it would confuse people too much, since Bushco's definition of a terrorist is someone who comes from the Middle East and "hates our freedoms".

No point in upsetting people by using the words Christian and terrorist together (in other words, telling the truth).
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 03:24 PM
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3. As Bush said
We are fighting THEM over there so we don't have to fight THEM here.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 03:31 PM
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7. Well said.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 03:35 PM
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9. creepily profound...like a political cartoon
twilight zoney
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:48 AM
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27. Guess him and Timmy McVeigh are just regular joes gone bad?
They are Right-Wing Christian Fundamental Culture of Pro-Life Terrorists who Murder Americans because of their Freedom.
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 03:25 PM
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4. As I posted in another thread...
Yeah, so totally not a terrorist. Except that, you know, he fits the def perfectly. Besides that, yeah, no terrorist here.

Terroist:
noun: a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities.

Terrorism:
noun: the calculated use of violence (or threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimindation or coercion or instilling fear
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 03:33 PM
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8. I know some of these types personally
i saw your earlier post, he's just a little too light skinned to be classified as a terrorist, plus his mom was a nun, and he loves jesus.
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 03:44 PM
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11. Oh, that's right ...
I forgot that part of the definition. ;)
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 03:28 PM
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5. Hates women too.
n/t
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 03:30 PM
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6. Hmm. I'll have to consult the fair and balanced media for an unbiased
opinion. He's a christain terrorist whether they call him that or not.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 03:38 PM
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10. i don't know, but i wonder if he opted out
of the death penalty because it goes agaisnt his "Christian Values"?
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Retired AF Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 03:52 PM
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12. At least he could of pleaded guilty two weeks earlier
had pre trial motions two weeks ago in Huntsville that lasted all week. I have to drive past the Federal Courthouse twice a day. What a pain, media and police circus.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:02 PM
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13. By golly you're right. I have heard plenty about Islamic terrorists
Why is the media not calling it what it is?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:03 PM
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14. I don't know about the Christian part
But that may be that he dropped by Peace Church on a Sunday that I wasn't there, but the terrorist part surely fits Mr. Rudolph. I can't imagine why our stalwart defenders of freedom and liberty in the Fourth Estate would quail from using the word in connection with Mr. Rudolph, unless they're worried that some of his like-minded cohort might drop by their offices with a little load of extra dynamite.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 06:07 PM
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19. If there are Islamic terrorists, surely Rudolph is a Christian terrorist
He may be misrepresenting the religion but that is surely his ideology!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 06:21 PM
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20. Well, I don't use the term "Islamic terrorist," either
But that's just me. Rudolph would certainly like to cloak his repugnant ideology in Christianity so as to gull weak-minded persons fuzzy on the precepts, but it doesn't bear any resemblance to what I would call Christianity. When Jesus said "Love your enemies," I'm pretty sure he meant don't bomb them.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:10 AM
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24. And that's what everbody says.
Not that I'm not sympathetic: every group has someone who claims to belong, and yet has the crazy guy beliefs.

The question is, how true is it? When mainstream christian groups claim that abortion is mass murder, who is to blame when a party takes it seriously enough to kill? Wouldn't you bomb Nazis to stop the holocaust?

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kittenpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:24 AM
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25. yeah, but this is about the msm, not you.
granted you have better judgement than they do. But they love to bandy about Islamic/Muslim terrorists even though most Muslims would say terror does not reflect their religion, so why not the term 'christian terrorist' when the situation applies!?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:06 PM
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29. True enough, but . . .
Rather than bandy about inappropriate labels such as "Islamic" or "Christian," I'd prefer to see the media just call terrorists "terrorists." The extra labels seem to me to be an effort to condemn entire groups, and if we're going to get to a place where terrorism isn't effective, it's up to all of us, Christian, Muslim, Jewish, non-aligned, American, other national, right wing, left wing, whatever, to renounce and denounce terror as a political tactic.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:04 PM
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15. And all along we were told it was the "liberal media".
They'll never call him a terrorist, just as they never called McVeigh or Nichols a terrorist, even though that exactly what they did. They didn't even refer to the DC area snipers as terrorist, though thats exactly what they were.

What about the guy that murdered the doctor in upstate NY, he's one too.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:14 PM
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16. Since Rudolph targeted civilians to further his political goals he is
indeed a terrorist, and since he is a self avowed Christian as well as asserts his Christianity as a defense for his actions (up until the plea deal) he is an American Christian terrorist who is apparently personally opposed to martyrdom.

I oppose the death penalty even for cold blooded terrorists like
Rudolph, so in some ways I'm glad that he copped a plea.
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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:45 AM
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23. I'm strongly opposed to the death penalty also but
I feel if we have it, and we obviously do unfortunately, it should apply to everyone equally.
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:15 PM
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17. NO!
He is an Evangelical. He is being persecuted for his beliefs by a godless, secular, baby killing, socialist, Nazi, homosexual, educated, non-Christian, thinking extremists who hate Jesus.

That is why.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 05:42 PM
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18. here's an extremely lame "Christian" defense of Rudolph
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:35 AM
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22. Its not a defense of Rudolph, its an attempt to disassociate him
Edited on Thu Apr-14-05 10:06 AM by Inland
from Chrisitianity.

And it is the same thing that everyone does, Muslim, American, whatever: he says he is one of us, but we aren't stone cold killers and nobody who truly accepted our teachings would ever blah blah blah.

The question is, is it true? Can religious groups that calls abortion a bunch of murders on the level of the holocaust say that Rudolp is doing something all that wrong?



As the article says:
".....Rudolph's a Christian and I'm a Christian and he dedicated his life to fighting abortion," 25-year-old Crystal Davis of Murphy told The New York Times. "Those are our values. These are our woods. I don't see what he did as a terrorist act."

That is a truly despicable comment.....

So there are two minds even in Christianity....



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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:30 AM
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26. No, no "Christianity Today" implies, he's a narco terrorist
He did it because he smoked pot when he was younger.

And we all know that marajuana makes you a hopped-up, violent, super-agressive hateful killing machine.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:37 PM
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30. they did make excuses for him ---
For example:

"Charles Stone, a retired Georgia Bureau of Investigation agent who supervised the bombing task force, says that Rudolph was really upset that the Food and Drug Administration didn't approve a drug he thought would help his father's cancer."

"The anti-abortion, anti-gay thing was a smokescreen," Stone told the Associated Press."

Of course, this is utter BS, as evidenced by Rudoph's statements in court.

And then there's this lame-o bit of garbage: "When the Peach Tree Restaurant in Peachtree, N.C., changed its marquee to read "Pray for Eric Rudolph," it may have very well been out of support for the terrorist. Or it may have simply been a truly Christian sentiment to "pray for your enemies."

Right...they were praying for Rudolph to see the error of his ways....

onenote

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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:25 PM
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21. And they plead him out rather than go for the DP they love so much
How is that for consistency? Par for the course it seems.

RTP
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LibInternationalist Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:57 AM
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28. seems like it
I said the same thing in my blog (independently, but after this thread) -- check out the google news stats http://nonspecificcuriosity.blogspot.com/
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