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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:00 PM Original message |
Why does any 'progressive' insist on using demeaning terms? |
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maggrwaggr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
1. what exactly are you talking about? n/t |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I posted this about the common use of what |
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mmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Spell it out; I have no idea what in the hell you are trying to tell me. |
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mmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. What? |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. I don't understand your question |
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maggrwaggr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. well if I called you "vague" would you find that disrespectful? |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. LOL |
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maggrwaggr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:38 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. ah. well people's notions of that differ from person to person |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:49 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. I'm sure you can think of a few terms people call offensive |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Well, not good enough |
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polazarus (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 09:49 AM Response to Reply #39 |
194. I have been reading your posts for a while now |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 10:49 AM Response to Reply #194 |
200. It is a hot topic |
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polazarus (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:09 PM Response to Reply #200 |
209. Thanks |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:40 PM Response to Reply #209 |
225. i never forget richard pryor's take on the "n" word |
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formernaderite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:52 PM Response to Reply #16 |
97. Sorry, I must have missed the meeting where we reached consensus.... |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 07:45 AM Response to Reply #97 |
176. so, after you were aware that some of the guys at work |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. It seemed pretty clear to me |
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mmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Great. Give me some examples. |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I think you can think of your own examples |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:51 PM Response to Reply #11 |
40. That's very disingenous |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
2. I come from organized labor |
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4morewars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. maybe they are not really "progressive" ? n/t |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
5. Are you equating... |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. I don't think she's equating them except to the degree that both are |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. We've had this argument before... |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. It seems to me |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Exactly |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. It is not my intention to ... |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:46 PM Original message |
Then why use the term? |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. It is a matter of respect |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Why must... |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. By my standards, |
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TinaTyson (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. Can't remember the last time I heard someone called a bastard. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:57 AM Response to Reply #27 |
142. So true, Tina, so true. nt |
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fearnobush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
12. I never saw any racial stuff, if thats what you mean, but I believe |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
17. Language is so deceptive. |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Noone is always politically correct |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
19. good post! |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
24. BITCH! FAGGOT! WHORE! SLUT! CUNT! DYKE! |
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maggrwaggr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:40 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. oh, so is THAT what we're talking about here? Bitch? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:52 PM Response to Reply #31 |
42. But by so doing you disrespect ALL women |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:57 PM Response to Reply #31 |
51. much like when racist nitwits |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:07 PM Response to Reply #51 |
63. LOL |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:27 PM Response to Reply #63 |
83. as for me |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 07:39 AM Response to Reply #83 |
174. Shouldn't that be |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 07:53 AM Response to Reply #83 |
178. Yeah, but that's no fun |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:50 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. whore is very much a neutral term here |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Nope, but some seem to think so |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:21 PM Response to Reply #43 |
76. huh |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 07:56 AM Response to Reply #76 |
179. I don't know any women who view "whore" as gender neutral |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 10:00 AM Response to Reply #179 |
195. come on |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 10:50 AM Response to Reply #195 |
201. Yes, outside DU, where the real world lives |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 10:56 AM Response to Reply #201 |
202. well then |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 11:02 AM Response to Reply #202 |
205. Not every person on DU is a DU veteran |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:00 PM Response to Reply #205 |
208. I disagree |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:07 PM Response to Reply #208 |
215. also, look up the word whore in the dictionary |
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formernaderite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
100. What? Bitch refers to minorities? |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 08:11 AM Response to Reply #100 |
180. she gets to refer to herself as a bitch but |
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July (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
213. To accept your conclusion, I must accept your premise first. |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 07:08 PM Response to Reply #213 |
239. I and other posters have been making this same point for a long time |
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DemLikr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
227. It turns me on when you talk like that. Please continue. n/t |
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democracyindanger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
25. Okay, so |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:39 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. we can use gender-neutral insults like asshole |
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maggrwaggr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. sorry, but a woman can be a bitch and a man can be an asshole |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:43 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. the word "bitch" is directed at the female gender, and meant to put down |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:46 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Wrong... |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. I disagree |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. Well...... |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:00 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. I appreciate your input |
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pnb (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 09:33 AM Response to Reply #35 |
193. Doesn't much matter though |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:50 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. no----it is a gender-specific insult |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. no it isn't - it can be used in many contexts |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:54 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Words |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:58 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. You post is bitchin' man |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:08 PM Response to Reply #52 |
64. Despite the attempt at humor |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:02 PM Response to Reply #46 |
56. Yep |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 07:46 AM Response to Reply #56 |
177. depends if the offense is justified or not |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. But "asshole" is used specifically for men. |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:56 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. dickhead is a gender-specific insult, and asshole is not |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:04 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. I've never heard a woman called an "asshole" |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:05 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. because those terms are meant to put down people due to their gender |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:07 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Mmm, no.. |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:09 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. no.....bitch is meant for women when they're being assertive or |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:11 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Sometimes. |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:12 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. think harder and just use "jerk" instead |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:15 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. "Jerk" is gender specific. |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:20 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. no, it's not. |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:25 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. 6: male masturbation. |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:26 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. there's no 6, and male masturbation is called "jerking off" |
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4morewars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:36 AM Response to Reply #80 |
113. regardless |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:25 AM Response to Reply #66 |
155. And I believe a man that does that is called an "asshole"... |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:28 AM Response to Reply #155 |
156. because "asshole" is a gender-neutral term because we all have one |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:49 AM Response to Reply #156 |
164. Men get called bitches, too. |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 03:01 AM Response to Reply #164 |
168. it's not okay to call men bitches or faggots |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 03:36 AM Response to Reply #168 |
173. Again, you don't have a problem with the words, |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 07:41 AM Response to Reply #173 |
175. no, I have a problem with gender-specific insults like "bitch" or "cunt" |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 06:48 PM Response to Reply #175 |
236. Well, that's what your problem is. |
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pnb (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 10:09 AM Response to Reply #66 |
198. How is it that you know this? |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 10:57 AM Response to Reply #198 |
203. here... |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:55 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. One of the few times I was called a bitch, I was glad. |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:06 PM Response to Reply #48 |
61. I once said that |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 08:42 AM Response to Reply #48 |
184. wouldn't it be ironic if th manner in which she was abusing her |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
50. Can't you be a little creative |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 08:27 AM Response to Reply #34 |
181. how did it get to be an insult? |
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LandOLincoln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:08 PM Response to Reply #33 |
65. Sorry. I'm a bitch and damned proud of it. And count me as one of those |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:11 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. it's okay for minorities to "own" the words of hate because it |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:20 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. Umm, yes |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:23 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. exactly.... |
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LandOLincoln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:22 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. Ah. Thank you SO much for explaining that to me. |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 08:31 AM Response to Reply #65 |
182. if you have a daughter... |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:29 PM Response to Reply #65 |
221. Thank you thank you thank you |
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DemLikr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
228. Words evolve and change over time. Bitch used to refer to female dogs |
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democracyindanger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
55. Gloria Steinem |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:14 PM Response to Reply #55 |
71. amen, very insightful, everyone should read this post! |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 08:36 AM Response to Reply #55 |
183. then petition ADMIN to do away with the prohibition against nigger. |
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democracyindanger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:36 PM Response to Reply #183 |
223. nonsensical comparison |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 07:06 PM Response to Reply #223 |
238. context ......exactly... |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 06:39 PM Response to Reply #183 |
235. NOT THE SAME THING. nt |
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troublemaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
44. We're poised on the brink of fascism |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:02 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. who's "telling you what to say" |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:04 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Thanks..nt |
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troublemaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:13 PM Response to Reply #54 |
70. I don't recognize the distinction |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:21 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. so you can be offended |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:40 PM Response to Reply #75 |
91. I used to put my whole heart and soul into these threads..now |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:03 AM Response to Reply #91 |
101. good post! bravo! |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:20 AM Response to Reply #91 |
110. so true |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:37 AM Response to Reply #110 |
114. It's basically asking people to think |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:47 AM Response to Reply #114 |
120. sometimes I think |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:50 AM Response to Reply #120 |
124. We're always either expanding or contracting |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:01 AM Response to Reply #124 |
132. I love that story |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 08:57 AM Response to Reply #91 |
185. ....... |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:37 PM Response to Reply #91 |
224. Crappola on a stick |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:37 PM Response to Reply #224 |
229. I said nothing of the sort. I asked people to think. I guess that's |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-03-04 06:43 AM Response to Reply #91 |
241. just had to kick this post again |
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troublemaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:07 AM Response to Reply #75 |
104. It's the coercive mindset I object to |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-04-04 06:01 PM Response to Reply #104 |
242. not really the same thing |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:03 PM Response to Reply #44 |
57. that is a bitchin' post brother - seriously you hit it right on the head |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:05 AM Response to Reply #57 |
144. See post #143. |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:17 AM Response to Reply #144 |
148. I'm sorry, I don't have the strength to discuss this right now |
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thexanman (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
79. Word |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:35 PM Response to Reply #79 |
86. Yeah |
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Ysabel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:37 PM Response to Reply #79 |
88. what i think damaged libralism... |
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Ysabel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:41 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. well hell... |
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thexanman (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:50 PM Response to Reply #88 |
95. I'm sorry but not all liberals are |
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Ysabel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:11 AM Original message |
i think it would be great... |
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thexanman (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
107. Oh of course it would |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:16 AM Response to Reply #95 |
147. These are not complicated questions... |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-04-04 06:06 PM Response to Reply #147 |
243. It's THIS simple really |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:11 AM Response to Reply #88 |
106. AMEN!!! |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:08 AM Response to Reply #88 |
145. DING DING DING! WINNER. |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 09:22 AM Response to Reply #88 |
190. when we lose the desire to respect people |
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troublemaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:53 PM Response to Reply #79 |
98. Right On |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:38 AM Response to Reply #79 |
115. if any term is offensive to someone |
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troublemaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:00 AM Response to Reply #115 |
131. Dragging ignorance from the past? |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:05 AM Response to Reply #131 |
134. I'm referring to the way it is used in OTHER |
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troublemaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:32 AM Response to Reply #134 |
138. James Brown taught me to say Black! |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:43 AM Response to Reply #138 |
140. I have no problem |
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troublemaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 10:02 AM Response to Reply #140 |
196. No, No |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:54 AM Response to Reply #131 |
166. The subset of people we classify as "mentally ratarded" |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 09:29 AM Response to Reply #166 |
191. the new terms are more descriptive and therefore more acurate |
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troublemaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 10:15 AM Response to Reply #166 |
199. blind is blind |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-04-04 06:10 PM Response to Reply #131 |
244. just to be pedant |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:04 AM Response to Reply #44 |
143. It's not ok to be told what to say, but its also not okay to hate. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:14 AM Response to Reply #143 |
146. yes, and that is what I believe the original post was saying |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:17 AM Response to Reply #146 |
149. What are you talking about? |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:22 AM Response to Reply #149 |
151. actually I was agreeing with you |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:24 AM Response to Reply #151 |
153. Ah ok - I just wanted to make sure I had you in context. :) |
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troublemaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 11:31 AM Response to Reply #143 |
207. I'm not knocking 90% of your measured message, but... |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:24 PM Response to Reply #207 |
210. Yes, it is just right wing spin. |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:33 PM Response to Reply #44 |
222. "Politics ain't bean-bag." |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
81. Should we remove every term with any kind of negative connotation |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:27 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. the latter is fine with me |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:33 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. the language police |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:45 PM Response to Reply #85 |
93. Look at my original post |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:52 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. I would never call someone a "bitch" on DU |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:35 AM Response to Reply #96 |
112. K, can we agree that we will not use terms |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:04 AM Response to Reply #93 |
102. It's also disrespectful to call someone a |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:57 AM Response to Reply #93 |
127. I guess it's just too simple |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:02 AM Response to Reply #127 |
133. That's entirely different. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:33 AM Response to Reply #133 |
139. I was referring to |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:21 AM Response to Reply #139 |
150. So you're saying that "bitch" fits into the same category |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:25 AM Response to Reply #150 |
154. so it's okay for "bitch" (a sexist term) to stand instead of racist terms |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:38 AM Response to Reply #154 |
160. It is not a sexist term any more |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 03:00 AM Response to Reply #160 |
167. "bitch" is derogatory to women because it insults them for being a woman |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 03:07 AM Response to Reply #167 |
169. Nope. It insults their behavior. |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 03:25 AM Response to Reply #169 |
170. it is for being a woman..... |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 03:29 AM Response to Reply #170 |
171. It's a weak woman, now? |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 08:59 AM Response to Reply #171 |
186. it's not the behavior---it is a GENDER-specific insult! |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 06:37 PM Response to Reply #186 |
232. NOOOOOO it's NOOOOOOT.... |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 06:39 PM Response to Reply #232 |
234. it IS because the word "bitch" means a weak woman or woman |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 09:05 AM Response to Reply #171 |
187. if you listen to some of the women in the shelter |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 10:58 AM Response to Reply #187 |
204. that's something I definitely agree with you on |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-04-04 06:16 PM Response to Reply #169 |
245. have you EVER had a problem with a man for being |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:32 AM Response to Reply #150 |
157. I don't know what is so complicated |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:34 AM Response to Reply #157 |
158. snort gurgle |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:48 AM Response to Reply #158 |
163. may I quote you on that? n/t |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:35 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. I disagree with you on exactly that point. |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:37 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. it's also a verb too |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:38 PM Response to Reply #84 |
90. Actually, women aren't a minority |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:05 AM Response to Reply #84 |
103. So no double-plus un-good words |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:08 AM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Well, I don't think that you can call it a |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:17 AM Response to Reply #105 |
108. I just wanted to say I'm glad you weighed in on this thread |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:38 AM Response to Reply #105 |
116. Seriously, why would you want to call someone |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:42 AM Response to Reply #116 |
119. We called a nail a fucking bitch. |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:48 AM Response to Reply #119 |
122. To some |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:59 AM Response to Reply #122 |
129. If we want to build a progressive movement, and I'm really |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 09:31 AM Response to Reply #81 |
192. what other words do you use that people might find offenive? |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 06:38 PM Response to Reply #192 |
233. I don't know...why don't you go over all of the posts I've ever made |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
94. Without specific examples, and context, it's pointless to respond.. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:18 AM Response to Reply #94 |
109. She's referring to this thread: |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:41 AM Response to Reply #94 |
117. Most got it |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:49 AM Response to Reply #117 |
141. Well, I don't get to read the boards 24/7 |
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Kenneth ken (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-01-04 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
99. I agree with you |
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troublemaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
111. Libertarian vs. Authoritarian |
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Ysabel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:51 AM Response to Reply #111 |
125. power over... |
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troublemaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:09 AM Response to Reply #125 |
136. Truce |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
118. Defintion of the word "bitch" - proof of different contextual meanings |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:50 AM Response to Reply #118 |
123. and "bitch" thrown at a man in the weak context because |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:56 AM Response to Reply #123 |
126. and if I said another male DUer were my "bitch" as a personal attacki |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
121. I read this entire thread, and I've... |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:57 AM Response to Reply #121 |
128. Your point is??? |
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mouse7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
130. Why don't we all just stop using language and moan and gurgle a lot |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:08 AM Response to Reply #130 |
135. BITCH! FAGGOT! SLUT! WHORE! DYKE! |
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mouse7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:12 AM Response to Reply #135 |
137. *moan**gurgle**gurgle**moan**gurgle* n/t |
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thexanman (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 11:12 AM Response to Reply #135 |
206. Bitch is NOT comparable to a racial slur |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 09:18 AM Response to Reply #130 |
188. do you use the word retard? |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:24 AM Response to Original message |
152. Actions speak louder than words |
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Kanary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:35 AM Response to Original message |
159. Everything you've said is sooo on target |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:41 AM Response to Reply #159 |
161. Of course, but the issue is being confused |
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rumguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:41 AM Response to Original message |
162. What about anal sex? |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:51 AM Response to Original message |
165. For some reason I don't really believe that you are 'shocked' |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 03:32 AM Response to Original message |
172. Poopy Heads! You are ALL Poopy Heads!! |
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EV1Ltimm (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
189. well, why does a progressive not see that... |
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Buns_of_Fire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
197. *sigh* America. A country divided by a common language. |
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adriennel (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
211. why must you generalize |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 12:56 PM Response to Reply #211 |
212. have you read this thread for a better explanation? |
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adriennel (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:03 PM Response to Reply #212 |
214. I didn't read all 200, no |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:10 PM Response to Reply #214 |
216. that your outrage is....fake. |
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adriennel (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:17 PM Response to Reply #216 |
217. why? |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:21 PM Response to Reply #217 |
218. you complained about generalization without reading the entire |
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adriennel (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:26 PM Response to Reply #218 |
219. enlighten me |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:28 PM Response to Reply #219 |
220. just read the thread for yourself |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 06:52 PM Response to Reply #219 |
237. Just a quick correction... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
226. it's all about 'home training' |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
230. Its all about the context people |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 03:28 PM Response to Reply #230 |
231. i think your opinion is very progressive, actually |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-02-04 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
240. I agree |
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