Vice President Cheney Heads to Hospital! ** BREAKING! **

[IndianaGreen]

breaking

On edit:

Cheney complaining of shortness of breath. No other details

On edit 2:

Washington DC hospital, not identified. On Faux now.

REUTERS:

Vice President Cheney Heads to Hospital

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Vice President Dick Cheney, who has a history of heart attacks, was headed to the hospital on Saturday after he experienced shortness of breath, which could be related to a cold, the White House said.

REUTERS

[qanda]

Biting my tongue...

Until it bleeds!

[The empressof all]

5. I'm right there with you (nt)

[xultar]

21. Good to know i'm not the only one

[Plausible]

223. thanx

imho (in my humble opinion) i appreciate finding out what n/t means and hope i soon learn my way around here better :)

[politicat]

291. Welcome to DU!

N/T means no text. Thanks for coming in!

Pcat

[Lefta Dissenter]

55. Let me get that straight.

Does that mean you're biting pbl's tongue, or your own? :shrug:

[HR_Pufnstuf]

241. Search News Link for Updates

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=cheney+hospital

[Child_Of_Isis]

Ah, me too

;-)

[saigon68]

46. THE CHIMPANZEE PONDERS NEXT MOVE

[lynx rufus]

103. I fear the next move ain't gonna be sweet

No doubt he would be replaced by a cheney calibre piece of shit.
Perhaps someone with a little more experience in the
concentration camp business.

[deutsey]

37. God, I hate to admit it, but I feel the same way

What the hell is wrong with me?

:evilfrown:

[movonne]

256. Negroponti ???(sp)

[TahitiNut]

56. All I can say is ....

[AmyCrat]

143. me too! n/t

[Dulcinea]

190. I can't wish death on anyone...

...but if Cheney croaks, I'll shed no tears whatsoever, same way I felt about Reagan.

[TankLV]

230. I'm right there with you.

Glad I'm not alone.

[Ctrl_Alt_Del]

284. I'm biting mine, too

It's not helping... anybody within three feet of me can still make out the words "Die Motherfucker! Die Motherfucker! Die Motherfucker!" quite clearly.

But hey, I tried.

[Dookus]

1. where did you hear this?

breaking where? It's not on CNN or MSNBC, or on the web yet.

[IndianaGreen]

7. Just broke on Faux!

no other details. Tony Snow read the news ticker.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

20. I just checked faux's web site- it's the lead story.

n/t

[ronnykmarshall]

57. Just broke in MSNBC too.

:wtf:

[Midlodemocrat]

2. Link?

[rooboy]

12. www.isdickcheneydeadyet.com n/t

[qanda]

24. STOPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!

I will not laugh. I will not laugh. I will not laugh. I will not laugh. I will not laugh. I will not laugh. I will not laugh. I will not laugh. I will not laugh. I will not laugh. I will not laugh. I will not laugh. I will not laugh. I will not laugh. I will not laugh. I will not laugh. I will not laugh. I will not laugh. I will not laugh. I will not laugh. I will not laugh.

[meganmonkey]

94. I'll be your surrogate laugher...

HaHaHaHaHaHaHahahahahahahahahah...

there are very few people in this world for whom I have no inherent compassion in their time of pain.

Cheney is right near the top of the list.

[ChicanoPwr]

261. LMAO

:D

[Midlodemocrat]

36. LOL !!

[indigolady]

200. What is LOL ??????????? i see this over and over.

[Child_Of_Isis]

207. laughing out loud

are you teezin? ;-)

[chelaque liberal]

208. laugh out loud

[Midlodemocrat]

262. Instant message speak for Laughing Out Loud

You will also see ROFLMAO which equals rolling on the floor laughing my ass off. Some people post it differently, but they mean the same thing.

[Kukesa]

304. Here's a net lingo address for you.

Try this:

http://www.netlingo.com/emailsh.cfm

And WELCOME to DU, indigolady.

[robbedvoter]

3. "We keep her in the window until the check comes"

Old joke on dead grandmother - one is tempted to think - when was he last "in the window"?

[Domitan]

4. Will he be Ara-fated?

Karma is such a bitch.

[Rose Siding]

9. Better not be during a popular TV show!

Some producer will be fired

[Sabriel]

50. They'll interrupt the last minute of "Dragon Tales" to announce it. n/t

[AngryOldDem]

330. Okay. I can't help it.

LOL!!!!!

[livinbella]

13. what the hell is that supposed to mean?

[Tab]

29. CSI

It refers to a report of a CBS News special report that Arafat had died where the producer got fired because he broke into the last few minutes of CSI - NY to make the special announcement. Apparently CSI and its viewers were more important than the breaking news. Although, to be fair, Arafat had been dead and undead for most of the week, but it probably didn't warrant the producer being fired.

[Domitan]

33. Arafat was taken to the hospital

and he expired there...heralding an end of an era and a promise of a new chapter. There are also rumours of Arafat being accelerated towards death (e.g., poisoning) in order to pursue an agenda. Regardless of the cause of death, Arafat's death marked how an influential politician with many ties to shadowy groups has such impact on society. Cheney is another figure with heavy influence and ties.

Ara-fated was just a play on words...seems fitting.

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[PhuLoi]

272. Oh c'mon what did all these deleteds say? n/t

[cali]

6. Could we try

and show some restraint in this thread? Just a thought.

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[Donailin]

161. Word.

Why don't we spin it in the manner of Pat Robertson/Jerry Falwell/James Dobson/Alan Keyes?

"God has saw fit to strike down the enablers of depravity on the Republican Ticket! May this be a lesson to the GOP that Tolerance of Homosexual Behaviour, even within one's own family, must excised from our Christian Government! God is not on his side!"

[physioex]

69. Restrain yourself if you want...

I am breaking out the Champale...

[sunnystarr]

177. Hmmm and I thought it was now Chimpale lol (nt)

[underseasurveyor]

179. Got any Champipple for us po folks?

:evilgrin: Gotta love Redd Foxx O8)

[TahitiNut]

80. "show some restraint"???

(sheesh) If you don't see restraint, you never will. To me, it looks like chains, straitjackets, handcoffs, and every other manner of restraint. :shrug:

[Domitan]

119. The only restraint I recommend

is to wait for the medical reports as to how serious this really is.

For such an evil man, the only thing I mourn is that he chose an evil path long time ago.

[neomonkey]

124. The minute that Dickless and Syndicate show restraint in

raping our country, then maybe.

But until then, fuck it, fuck restraint, and FUCK HIM and his empty heart.

[mitchum]

132. Fuck that! The evil motherfucker deserves his just reward

[underseasurveyor]

140. Oh yea sure, r-e-s-t-r-a-i-n-t

oops guess I need more practice

[0007]

149. NO!

[Prodemsouth]

218. This is one very big reason why we don't have a President Kerry. He

showed RESTRAINT..FUCK RESTRAINT!!! We have been doing it for far toooooo long.

[jbm]

244. no restraint from me...

these people are evil bastards and can rot in hell..(and if there is a hell I'm sure they will).

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[against all enemies]

8. His heart must have run out of evil, but don't worry,

he'll have an evil transplant and be back to full evil in no time.

[jbm]

245. LOLOLOL

That made me laugh!:bounce:

[ashling]

10. Who will W pick whin F* off resigns?

John Ashcroft?

[Rose Siding]

16. The '08 candidate

[Davis_X_Machina]

27. Earlier than that...

...the VP pick becomes president when Junta Boy steps down next year 'for medical reasons'.

[shanti]

43. would that even be possible?

to have jeb as his vp?

[MADem]

72. Yes, absolutely

The only requirement is that the President and the VP not be from the same state, which is why Cheney moved from Dallas to Wyoming a few days before he announced that he had done a VP search, and could not find anyone better than...HIMSELF.

What an interesting theory--put the brother who can TALK out front, while letting the trolls and gnomes of pure evil hide deep within the West Wing, doing their nefarious work.

Holy Moly.....

[seriousstan]

108. In the event of a vice presidential vacancy,

In the event of a vice presidential vacancy, the president nominates a replacement who must be approved by Congress before taking office as the new vice president.

[EX-CONservative]

310. Electoral College

If Cheney dies before the Electoral College eets on December 13th, Bush's pick will be voted by the electoral college thereby bypassing Congress. The new VP won't take office until January 20th.

[Zorra]

76. John McCain?

[Rose Siding]

84. I don't think so.

He's a loose cannon and they don't really need the boost now.

And Hagel would be out- he's been too critical and bushies don't forgive.

[VegasWolf]

141. Rick Sanitarium? n/t

[Rose Siding]

167. Maybe

He's corrupt and exteme enough. But the more I think about it, Jeb is seeming more likely. It would be insanely over the top, but, well...bushes after all.

I wouldn't rule out Rice, either. If they wanted to promote their dogma AND do as much damage to dems as possible, the seemingly (deceptively) inclusive choice of an African American Woman would do it.

[Renew Deal]

157. Exactly right

They will begin fundraising the day after.

[progressivedancer]

30. I wish

I wish no harm on any one, even if it is Dick Cheney or even if it is Alan Keyes (that hurt to say)but all i have to say is what comes around goes around. I'm buddhist and I believe that if you trample on life you get trampled on the same in the unforeseen future. Karma is a Biatch.

[saigon68]

32. JOHN ASSCRACK

[KalicoKitty]

70. Wouldn't the Speaker of the House succeed?

<n/t>

[seriousstan]

106. The president gets to pick

In the event of a vice presidential vacancy, the president nominates a replacement who must be approved by Congress before taking office as the new vice president.


First post. WOOOHOOO!!!

[Rose Siding]

144. As well, the last I read about Hastert, he's rumored to be ill

It was on dkos, I believe, about 3 weeks ago- a blurb about how all that's heard from him is through his spokesman. Some neighbor said they thought he was in hospital. He may be on the way out, too.

[Renew Deal]

160. Only if the Pres and VP go down at the same time.

[lynintenn]

107. Bill Frist

[Pirate Smile]

11. If it is a heart attack, how many would that be?

[Child_Of_Isis]

26. Six, I think.

He'll not make 4 more years.

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[Child_Of_Isis]

35. Lol...

this is such fun ;-)

[zmdem]

65. Why ?

Because you disagree with him on political issues ? Why not challenge those you disagree with to a duel ala Aaron Burr and at least have the pleasure of an honest kill, rather than waiting around for fate to do your work.

[w13rd0]

109. Many of us...

...consider Cheney to be an evil fuck, who is now up to 4000+ (likely far more if you factor in domestic negligence) American lives sacrificed to advance his extreme right-wing agenda. To quote Red Foxx, the "big one" is far too kind a fate for someone like Cheney.

[Sterling]

115. "Because you disagree with him on political issues"

Sure that's it :eyes: are you sure you are happy here?

[Zhade]

269. Please alert on him. He's SOOOOOO obvious.

NT!

[zmdem]

313. Happy as clams in butter sauce

to be here. DU is a great forum and I enjoy the give and take. I do realize my opinions are often not those of the majority here. Is that such a terrible thing ?

[DoBotherMe]

123. WHY? You ask why?

Because this sonofabitch started a fucking war so he could make money! WTF is wrong with you. Have you been watching the news, have you looked at the papers. Do you see what we have done in Iraq. Iraq couldn't project its power past its own borders and we invaded so that the Halliburton's, Bechtel's, Carlyle's, Raytheon's, the oil/war machine would be propped up ... your tax dollars and American blood are the price being paid to "save" 20th Century robber barons. WAKE THE FUCK UP!

[zmdem]

156. I am awake

and wondering how Democrats can win national elections if all they do is yell "Halliburton", "no blood for oil", etc. Bush won re-election and brought along gains in the house and senate. That hasn't happened since 1936. NINETEEN THIRTY SIX. That was a long time ago and the president was FDR !

I am afraid that the attitude you express is a real winner for the Republicans.

[Zhade]

274. You don't belong here, and most of us realize that.

You guys aren't getting any better at faking being Dems.

[zmdem]

303. Sorry to spoil the party

But why am I a fake Democrat ? Because you disagree with some of my opinions ? Last time I checked in, say in the Democratic primaries, I saw plenty of Democrats disagreeing with each other. Remember Dean, Lieberman, Gephardt, Kerry, etc. ?

America has a 2 party system, and has almost from the time Washington first took the oath of office in 1789. That means the parties tend to be big tent or else they die; consider the Federalists. If you wish me to go away, where do you want me to go ?

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[zmdem]

327. Let me say it then

The website you (probably) refer to is Free Republic. I can't go back there, because I am not a member there. Will admit to lurking from time to time.

How am I a disruptor ? I do not attack other posters, nor do I attack any public figure under discussion. I do not resort to ridicule or insult.

Yes, I do think the UN is seriously disfunctional, and not because of leadership, but because of it's very nature. I don't remember quoting CentCom re: Iraq, (but will grant I might have). Yes, I don't think the 2000 election was stolen. I think the vote in FL was a statistical dead heat, but that the tabulated votes gave Bush a miniscule victory.

Your either/or supposition as to why I am here is not sufficiently nuanced. There are other possible reasons, the most likely being that I enjoy the give and take I find here. But I can assure I am here "honestly" - I pay my ISP bill, I am registered here with a login/password, you know - full meal deal, etc.

As to being misinformed, that could be. How can I respond to such a charge ? If I am misinformed then how would I know, if I'm not misinformed, there can always be the lingering doubt in my mind that perhaps I am misinformed. Obviously, this applies to everyone, so is essentially no argument at all.

[SammyWinstonJack]

321. Are you sure you belong here?

:shrug:

[Zhade]

326. Although the mods seem to be missing this one, alert on him.

He's pretty obvious.

[Child_Of_Isis]

216. That's right, soldier!

To the evil one, war and death equals money. I cannot feel any sympathy whatsoever. Let the freeps come out of the woodwork.

[Zhade]

283. "Let the freeps come out of the woodwork."

Don't worry, they are. There's at least one of those idiots on this very thread.

[DoBotherMe]

294. I can't stand it ...

my heart is breaking with every day that passes in this so-called war. As Sen Biden said when asked if it was about oil, "on come on now, would we be there if there wasn't any." American interests .. bah!

[TahitiNut]

102. Well ... perhaps he'd like to watch a movie. Here's a DVD I'd send.

[VegasWolf]

152. I've got a copy of Mike's F911 that I could send. n/t

[TahitiNut]

172. And a bag of pretzels ...

... in case he has a visitor? :evilgrin:

[DBoon]

121. I hope he lives

Cheney is not electable in '08. His replacement may be.

[knowbody0]

15. wants to upstage arafat

[htuttle]

17. If Faux News start playing classical music...

...then we'll know.

[benburch]

52. You made me smile with that one!

:)

[Minstrel Boy]

18. Only link I can see so far is a breaking news banner on FoxNews site:

http://www.foxnews.com/

[quiet.american]

41. Can't help but wonder....

....why FAUX is the one to break the story.... interesting this happens immediately after the guy Cheney took over Halliburton from died in a strange accident....

[saigon68]

22. Quick get the wooden stake

[LosinIt]

63. You entirely CRACKED me up with that wooden stake

my dogs are staring at me now.

[tandot]

99. "wooden stake" ....BWAAAAHAAAAHAAAAHAHAHA

Sorry. I couldn't help myself...

[seemslikeadream]

185. HERE

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[tedoll78]

28. What's that..?

It's the world's smallest violin!

:nopity:

He should consider himself lucky: he has a healthcare plan.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

31. My goodness. God IS hearing prayers.

Who's next?

[progressivedancer]

48. one things for sure

The man has good healthcare coverage!

[natrat]

58. oh there is a long list

[deadparrot]

34. Operation REPLACE CRASHCART has begun.

Hopefully, this goes better than some of *'s other strategies.

[Rose Siding]

77. really. Could they BE any more transparent?

Nothing could interfere with Rove's Madison Avenue-channeled image of a steady, never-admit-he's-wrong-even-when-it's-staring-EVERYONE-in-the-face Chimperor.

[Behind the Aegis]

130. I agree.

I figured they would do this BEFORE the election since he was such a negative blight on the campaign (well, ONE of the negatives).

So who will be the next VP? You know he will resign to "be with his family" soon. I mean, after all, he has a lesbian daughter to cure! :eyes:

[Rose Siding]

Gruelling campaign has taken its toll...

the vitriolic nature of the opposition was too much for him blah blah

This was so transparently the plan all along.

[Behind the Aegis]

195. i agree...this is just...well...TRANSPARENT!

Unfortunately, there are too many people out there who lack critical thinking skills and this will be a "sad" thing for them. Idiots! However, I see a silver lining...once he is a civilian...go after his hateful ass and prosecute him! He will have NO immunity! Nail his evil carcass to the wall!

[VegasWolf]

221. awol would just pardon him, gotta get awol first!

[Behind the Aegis]

259. I thought about that

But, I think it would still make a statement. I also think without Crashcart's hand up his ass, The Fascist will not know what to do! I don't care what pundits say, Shrub IS an idiot! I am tried of people acting like he is some kind of great thinker! Call a duck a duck! This man is as dumb as dirt!

[LoZoccolo]

38. Tin foil hat time - this is a plot to install an unelected dictator type.

Cheney fakes some shortness of breath thing and steps down, then they replace him with a dictator type like Zell Miller. Then Bush* steps down and the plot is complete - the Zell Miller guy is now in power.

:tinfoilhat:

[LoZoccolo]

42. That would make him Zell Miller*. n/t

[LoZoccolo]

81. Or they nominate some Thriller Werewolf guy...

...as a poison pill to prevent impeachment of Bush*. It would work like this - they have some guy who seems mentally unstable, has had some sort of cosmetic dentistry done to make him look like he has fangs, has hair growing out of his face all over the place, perhaps implanted with follicle transplants as well, plus he wears a letter jacket just to taunt us that they ripped off the whole thing from the Michael Jackson "Thriller" video but we're still scared anyways, and have him be the VP. People get more scared of the Thriller Werewolf being president than Bush*, so they never impeach Bush*.

[LoZoccolo]

90. Maybe they could have Zell be the Thriller Werewolf...

...and then they would call him Zell Thriller.

[Zhade]

289. I applaud your efforts to extend this idea past reasonable expectations.

That took a lot of guts. "Zell Thriller". HA!

:evilgrin:

[physioex]

85. Zell Miller...

No, he was just a scenile ole goat not a Neocon. Cheney, Rummy, Wolfie, and Perly are Neocons. So it's gonna be hard to replace Dick..

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[zmdem]

120. Republicans are smarter than that

Look, Bush has a mess on his hands and by winning re-election, it's his, 100%. If things are still a mess in 2008, what would be the chance for his handpicked boy to win ? About zero I would guess.

Since Cheney won't run in '08, whoever wins the Republican nomination won't have direct ties to the Bush administration, hence no baggage in that regard. The best thing for the Republicans in '08 is that they can have their cake and eat it too: Consider Guiliani or McCain - sure they supported Bush's re-election, but neither is part of the administration. If Bush pulls it out, then they can use his legacy as part of their campaign. If Bush fails, they can easily distance themselves.

Think back and consider how often being the sitting Veep has got the Veep elected president:

1960 Nixon NO
1968 Humphrey NO
1988 Bush YES
2000 Gore NO

[LoZoccolo]

126. That's 2000 Gore YES, actually.

:tinfoilhat:

[zmdem]

173. Fair enough

Florida was a statistical dead heat and Gore did narrowly win the pop. vote nationally. Nonetheless, it was Bush who moved to DC.

ON EDIT: Being veep didn't really help Gore, which was my point.

[Zhade]

292. Since you're new here, tell me: what about the 2000 Coup?

I mean, since you're on DU, you're aware of the documented fact that the 2000 election was stolen, yes?

So, shouldn't you also be saying that Gore won Florida, as well, and it was stolen from him?

Something tells me you'll disagree with that fact...

[PhuLoi]

Evidence mounts that Bush did not win election this time.

Re Cheney, these thing seem to happen in threes. Who's the next evil rat bastard to carc?

[CAcyclist]

258. Interesting That This Is Happening Now

Just as the votes are going to be recounted in NH, NC, Ohio and parts of Washington, California and New York.

Can we say Diversion?

[HR_Pufnstuf]

204. zell miller is insane.

so it would be a fitting choice.

[umtalal]

39. Is this his time?

[Her Blondness]

40. Dubya will need another Puppet Master

If the Evil One croaks, who will pull the strings to make W talk?

[Spoon]

53. Rove

[veggiemama]

275. Jeb

Or does what's left of our Constitution prevent that?

[meganmonkey]

59. Welcome to DU, Her Blondness!

New puppetmaster...hmmm...how 'bout the John Cusack character from being John Malkovich? That would shake things up a little.

[VegasWolf]

163. bush can talk? Damn, I missed that one too. n/t

[Minstrel Boy]

44. "And I'll stand o'er your grave 'til I'm sure that you're dead."

Come you masters of war
You that build all the guns
You that build the death planes
You that build the big bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks

You that never done nothin'
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it's your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly

Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain

You fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
As young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud

You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood
That runs in your veins

How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I'm young
You might say I'm unlearned
But there's one thing I know
Though I'm younger than you
Even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do

Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul

And I hope that you die
And your death'll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand o'er your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead

[jefferson_dem]

191. There ya go, Minstrel Boy! A good time to drop a little "BobBomb"

Cheers!

[Minstrel Boy]

271. You know it!

It's for days like these, Bob wrote songs like that.

[lucabrasi]

302. More Dylan

We live in a political world
Where peace is not welcome at all,
It's turned away from the door to wander some more
Or put up against the wall.

[Dookus]

45. CNN saying it may be related to a cold

just like the old Soviet leaders who always had nothing more than a cold, right up until the funeral.

[TahitiNut]

181. Perhaps it's the flu.

:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

[burn the bush]

246. the same flu that Arafat got?

actually, I know I'm being overly hopeful, but I hope the sob lives. I want them all to be prison bitches for 10-20 before they die in prison from butt rot.

[wrate]

49. If he dies, I'll believe there is a just God. n/t

[happynewyear]

Lord have mercy!

I was just praying on this whole issue quite seriously. I post on international mailing lists and I wondered how I could ever explain myself if questioned.

I said, "It is up to you oh Lord!"

And yeah, there is a God, I have no doubt!

:kick:

[VegasWolf]

169. Not me, if there were a god he never would have been selected

in the first place.

[goodboy]

51. It's "hard work" lying to the American people ,and scaring the shit out of

them.

[MADem]

54. OK, let's assume he either resigns or dies

Faux is saying he has a "bad cold." That he is "short of breath." That ANSWERS VILL BE FORTHCOMING--vee must be PATIENT and NOT ASK ZE QUESTIONS. OBEY!!! Go about your business!!!!!

But we may as well suss this whole thing out to a replacement--perhaps he will retire, perhaps something more significant will occur. Candidates, anyone?

Colin Powell? Condi? AssKKKroft? (Ill, unlikely). Wolfowitz? (Time to leave the country). Any other likely suggestions?????

[IndianaGreen]

71. I believe Congress will have to pick the Vice President

Amendment XXV (1967)

Section 1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

Section 2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

Section 3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.amendmentxxv.html

[MADem]

83. The president picks, the congress rubber-stamps

This has happened recently. Remember GERALD FORD?????

Take a look at the congress...Bush could pick Bozo the clown,and they would stand up and say "Looks good to me!"

[Merlin]

73. It'll be Frist. Bank on it. It's part of the plan.

Shrubby was just too stubborn to do this before the election. So he'll do it now. Need to line up a successor, after all.

[lynintenn]

112. I'm with you

glad to get rid of him in Tennessee

[Merlin]

205. Who will we run to replace him. Who's your gov? Do we have a prayer?

Would Al run again? Could he win?

Sorry for all the questions, but I am clueless about TN politics.

[jefferson_dem]

240. Harold Ford, Jr. for Senate? Stand a chance in your blood red state?

[PhuLoi]

281. Harold Ford? Might just as well call for Liberman.

Harold likes outsourcing.

[MADem]

117. Fascinating choice

...and not impossible at all. The wingnuts would like him, but Frist, BEFORE the election, could have had bigger negatives than Cheney actually did. No one likes an asshole who goes to Angell Memorial, picks up a kitten every few weeks, pays the eleven bucks for shots and so forth, and then VIVISECTS it on the kitchen table. A cretinous man, a horrific, disgusting human being.

If the kitty killer story ever got wide play, it would have sunk the weecowboy. But now that he is IN, he can pick Satan himself--he's got the entire GOP Congress farting to his tune (thus, he has the wind at his back).

[RPM]

139. What?!?!!?

do you have a source for this? thats fuct!!

[kayell]

175. Frist admitted it himself in a 1989 book

http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20021231-071056-3546r
"Frist acknowledged in a 1989 book that he routinely killed cats while an ambitious medical student at Harvard Medical School in the 1970s. His office said it had no record on how many cats died. Frist disclosed that he went to animal shelters and pretended to adopt the cats, telling shelter personnel he intended to keep them as pets. Instead he used them to sharpen his surgical skills, killing them in the process."

[MADem]

215. I am especially appalled by it

...because Angell Memorial was one of my charities back in the day when I had damn little "compassionate" money, and that son of a bitch was doing his vivisection thing. In effect, I was paying for a portion of the medical care those poor animals received before he slaughtered them. I hate that bastard. You just don't kill kittens!!!

[NEOBuckeye]

286. Someone ought to email this to Mike Malloy - "Bill Frist, Kitten Killer!"

What a sick, sick man.

[tedoll78]

188. If Frist is indeed the nominee in 2008..

I want to hear the word "kitten" in every other sentence from our surrogates' mouths for the first few months of 2008. Just like they used "flip-flop" for Kerry.

Additionally, I want to hear "holds interests in a pro-abortion healthcare business" in every other sentence as well. As in, "his father and brother run a healthcare business that provides abortion services, and he has given them his financial support."

[Merlin]

ROFLMAO!

Way too funny!

But the cat story is scary!

[Name removed]

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[Merlin]

dupe. (Programming problem?)

Way too funny!

But the cat story is scary!

[NV Whino]

214. My guess is Guiliani

with Rice as a second choice, but I think Condi wants Sec Defence too much.

[JoFerret]

260. Guiliani

...would just be great. He and Bushie Bunnypants would have one public spat after another. (Guiliani is socially liberal(ish), intemperate, runs off at the mouth, and loves to hog the limelight.

[NEOBuckeye]

298. That's precisely why Giuliani will never be VP under Bush.

He's Catholic, an adulterer, pro-Gay (actually lived with a Gay couple after his marriage ended), a fairly responsible executive, and very charismatic. Much more a Rockefeller Republican than a Bush Neo-Conservative.

He'd outshine Dubya the moment he took office. People would probably immediately call for Dubya to resign so Rudy could take his place.

Ain't no way this is going to happen. I'd sooner put money on Condi Rice.

[BlueStatesForever]

309. Remember Guiliani's troop comment?

Remember, right before the election, when Guiliani blamed the missing weapons on troop incompetence?

[hexola]

60. The cold that's going around the northeast right now...

is pretty brutal...I'm on day 6 and still feeling pretty wiped...gets into the head and chest at the end...

[goodboy]

82. I guess it's a good thing he got a flu shot. Too bad there weren't enough

to go around

[Ilsa]

61. McCain. Keeps running through my mind. McCain.

The VP must have been what 666* promised McCain for campaigning for him.

[MADem]

159. That's an interesting choice too

Makes you wonder, if this might be part of the GRAND PLAN. All I can do is think of the constipated expression on McCain's face whilst he campaigned with weecowboy. He really did look like he was on the receiving end of a brutal protological exam by Dr. Edward Scissorhands. But hey, he's a war hero, he suffered grave torture at the Hilton, and he bravely saw that through--I suppose campaigning with weewee could not have been too much worse, and it had a 'knowable' time limit on it. Perhaps having to kowtow to weecowboy on the campaign trail was a "quid pro quo" for this eventuality.

And it would position McCain for 08--the bottom line is, if McCain is not well positioned, he may as well give it up--he's getting too old to have to fight his way through a pack of pretenders, but if he is the putative leader of the party, there won't be too many challengers (at least amongst those who want to continue to get cash from the RNC coffers).

THAT SAID, we need someone to tell us what the rules are vis a vis the replacement of a Senator in both AZ and TN--special elections, or gubernatorial appointment? Or a combination thereof????

[lovuian]

62. Yes saw it on Fox News too He has a cold that developed SOB

Interesting!!!

[GalleryGod]

64. What? After Going Down on Dragon Lady!? Very Toxic, Dick! Very!

:nuke:

[umtalal]

68. Now this is a gross thought? Dragon Lady has lost her stick.

[Nashyra]

93. This is the plan

always has been. The candidate for 08 will take his place, they have a majority in the Senate so they can put Frist on as the VP. Get him ready for 08. Frist is a darling of the rw and he will pick Santorum for his running mate in 08. Watch and see. Just a horrible thought that occurred to me, but it makes sense.

[Mandate My Ass]

162. That is a horrible thought

and that's what makes it entirely plausible.

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

66. Time to pray to your mythical gOD...call upon you Xtian minions to help

But, then again, if he passes away then, of course, the statement will be made that "Cheney's passing was gOD's design."

Nice, built in defense mechanism for disconfirming evidence of the ineffectiveness and stupidity of prayer.

JB

[NNN0LHI]

67. Terrible n/t

[meganmonkey]

74. AP Link:

http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispo/news/10174672.htm

Cheney, Short of Breath, Heads to Hospital

Associated Press


WASHINGTON - Vice President Dick Cheney, who has a history of heart trouble, was being taken to a hospital on Saturday for tests after experiencing some shortness of breath, a White House spokesman said.

"On the recommendation of his doctors, the vice president is going to George Washington University Hospital for some tests," spokesman Ken Lisaius said. "He experienced some shortness of breath Saturday morning and has had a bad cold, which could be the cause for the shortness of breath."

President Bush was notified, Lisaius said.

Cheney's cardiologist, Dr. Jonathan Reiner, was to oversee the tests.
(that is the full article)

[Proud liberal Kat]

75. I hope for his family that it is nothing serious.

Secondly I would worry about the VP pick, yes it can always be worse and the worse could be the next President.

Thirdly I would be able to relish impeachment and arrest.
Kathy

[ronnykmarshall]

155. I have to agree

As much as I despise this man, I don't wish ill on him.

If is this related to his heart condition, I don't see him staying on.

THAT is scary. He is the one running the show.

[LisaL]

254. Yep, it is scary.

Cheney is a sick man with numerous heart problems, and Bush, well...
Yet apparently 59 million people voted for those 2.

[Mojambo]

78. I hope he'll be okay

I hope he's in a GREAT deal of pain, but I hope he'll be okay.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

79. Elvis Costello lyrics about Maggy Thatcher: 'Tramp the Dirt Down'

'Cos when they finally put you in the ground
I'll stand on your grave and tramp the dirt down.

[Mojambo]

89. I'm waiting for Henry Kissinger

to kick it.

A friend and I have a standing arrangement to piss on his grave.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

217. Is that a great song or what?

[Ctrl_Alt_Del]

278. I'm singing Morrissey to myself today

The kind people
Have a wonderful dream
Margaret On The Guillotine
Cause people like you
Make me feel so tired
When will you die ?
When will you die ?
When will you die ?
When will you die ?
When will you die ?

And people like you
Make me feel so old inside
Please die

And kind people
Do not shelter this dream
Make it real
Make the dream real
Make the dream real
Make it real
Make the dream real
Make it real

With the appropriate substitutions, of course... :evilgrin:

[dave29]

86. But he got his flu shot

??

[tandot]

87. I guess carrying the weight of being responsible for all the dead soldiers

who died for him, Halliburton, and Bush in Iraq was too much to handle. Maybe there was just a tiny bit of conscience left in him?

I wish him a speedy recovery. Who knows who'll replace him? Ashcroft, Santorium, Frist, Jerry Falwell, Bob Jones III ???

[Mojambo]

I wonder if they'll show Cheney's casket on TV?

Somehow I think they will.

Motherfucker.

[Name removed]

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[peterh]

91. Did he get another woodie….

:shrug:

[BlueStatesForever]

312. Yeah!

Could it be...too much Viagara? One of those 4-hour erections (remember the pic from the other day).

[w13rd0]

92. He was just informed...

...that one of his daughters is gay, and he belongs to a party that wants to burn her at the stake, and him too for raising her.

On a more serious note, would putting a hex on someone be reason for the SS to visit?

[hexola]

95. IF THIS IS A HEART ATTACK...CHENEY MUST RESIGN!!!

I think....

[VegasWolf]

96. Chimp keeping fingers crossed that he may finally get to be prez! n/t

[karlrschneider]

97. Let's send flowers...

the kind they're throwing in Baghdad...
:evilgrin:

[Name removed]

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[Cobalt Violet]

101. Boo F*ckin' Hoo.

I crying my eyes out. :evilgrin:

[Kolesar]

104. * is now a "heartbeat away from being president"

Is he up to it?

[cmd]

151. I can hear him now

"Bring it on!"

[Old and In the Way]

105. I can't wait to see the documentary-

Dick Cheney: A life of Public Service.

What will be the highlights?

* His scholarly work at Yale
* His VietNam years
* His SecDef years: Saddam Hussein is our friend!
* His 1st War in Iraq: Saddam Hussein is our enemy!
* His Halliburton years: Saddam Hussein is our friend!
* His VP years: Saddam Hussein is our enemy!

[MADem]

189. Don't forget the bits of color in the documentary!

His three DUIs...
Serving as a "lineman for the county"...
His FIVE deferments!

And then, the wifely profile: 'Lynne, the writer of great literature' deserves at least ten minutes worth of coverage!

[Old and In the Way]

228. Let's not forget Lynn's help on 9/11 in the situation room.

SOP for wives of VP's to sit in on national security emergencies...

[obreaslan]

110. I can't believe you a wishing for someone's death....

Oh wait, that's right, I read over at fr**r*public.com that all it would take were a couple of suitcase nukes to deal with "Liberals in NYC, San Francisco and Chicago." This is who we're dealing with? I say....

Let Crashcart Go!

DNR! DNR! DNR! DNR! DNR! DNR! DNR! DNR!

[bacchant]

111. Let's not get too excited, this guy's a zombie n/t

[Plausible]

113. Hey maybe he has the flu :)

btw, i'm new at this what does n/t mean?

[VegasWolf]

180. n/t no text , no more message, like eom

[Danmel]

114. I'll wear a Red Dress

Or as Cher said in Moonstruck to the no good Johnny Cammereri:

"When you die, I'll come to your funeral and I'll wear a red dress!"

[Name removed]

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[Prodemsouth]

209. Thats what I say. I hope this is a disease that wipes all of them out and

many of their supporters. If you think like Bush, or like Bush - you first notice a shortness of breath then the real illness hits. Then we liberals can go on TV and talk about how this evil faith based conservative belief causes death.

[bear425]

118. PLEASE don't let Dick Cheney die!

He needs to be around for the coming indictments...

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2004/3143cheney_indict.html

[meganmonkey]

125. Check out the pic Yahoo News is using for the story:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/041113/480/ny10911131856

edited for better link

Someone post this pic, please - I don't know how...

It's begging for a caption!

[bear425]

131. pic

[quiet.american]

168. Anyone think this is a distraction?

Doesn't the recounting in Ohio start today? Isn't Fallujah spinning out of control? Didn't the former CEO of Halliburton just die in a strange way? Why was it FAUX that broke the story? Didn't the Deputy CIA chief just resign, warning of dire turmoil in the agency?

What better way to tie up news coverage (not that there was that much, anyway) than to suddenly become a bit "short of breath."

Am I too cynical?

[dkofos]

268. Is that cheney showing off the size of his namesake???

:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

[fortyfeetunder]

301. Well on FR there was another story

Apparently Dick Cheney is well endowed....

[robbedvoter]

133. I got that much left....

[peterh]

146. I was awed and breathless from the new length….

:silly:

[UTUSN]

154. It's Got Two Pics

This one? Or this one?

[meganmonkey]

164. The one on the left (oddly enough)

[WildClarySage]

328. "Then I'm going to squish YOUR head."

[Child_Of_Isis]

219. That's how much he cares for the troops! n/t

[burn the bush]

257. no, i think he is showing the size of his penis

"It's this big" he says, "a good six inches".

What six inches? No wonder the numbers are all wrong, Cheney, that is not a six inch penis.

[Child_Of_Isis]

276. Lol, I knew that was coming up. n/t

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

295. nope...that's how much heart he actually has

[shayes51]

128. Oh Lordy! Who's in charge????

[IndianaGreen]

148. Barney is in charge!

Good dog, Barney.


Not pleased with the recent Barney Photo of the Day selections, Barney commandeers a camera and takes his own photo.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/barney/index.html

[kayell]

203. All right! Finally somebody in the WH with some sense!

[goodboy]

306. LMFAO! nt

[goodboy]

134. If you look at this thread sideways, the posts look like an EEG that

flatlines at the end...

it's a conspiracy.

[bacchant]

138. Ha, awesome! Everyone should only post a single period in the subject

for the rest of the thread.

[goodboy]

150. Isn't that funny? (nt)

[underseasurveyor]

220. I laughed so hard with that one........

I snorted

[goodboy]

279. I laughed so hard when I read your post...

I farted...


:nuke:

[Stevious]

136. Imagine this scenario

Cheney is out, so dubya can name/appoint a successor...

a successor in the presidential sense, by bringing him in as VP now...

for the "next" 8 years.

:wtf: :scared:

[restorefreedom]

137. He should have stuck to running Halliburton

not wishing any ill to the veep, but maybe the stress of stealing this election has gotten to him.

Not to mention the deaths of 1200 U.S. soldiers on his hands....

I don't wish anything bad to happen to him, but he never should have been on the ticket in the first place (and I am referring to 2000).

[Melinda]

142. May a long suffering act of dying be yours - Go Cheney yourself, Dickie.

[hyphenate]

147. Mamma always said

If you can't say something nice about someone, don't say nothing at all.

I wonder......has lying and corruption finally gotten the best of the dickhead?

[0007]

332. Cheney's moto was if you can't say something bad about

someone, don't say anything.

[Renew Deal]

153. Here comes VP Asscroft

[hippiechick]

178. Holy He**, Bleachers, I was thinking the same thing !!

:scared:


:hippie:

[benburch]

192. Ashcroft is too sick.

Rumor has it he has inoperable pancreatic cancer.

I think he's leaving Justice to set his affairs in order.

[SpecialK84]

158. It's really lowering ourselves to the FReeper level ...

to break out the death-wish attacks. I wouldn't mourn Cheney for a second, but I can't honestly WISH death on anyone.

I know when Clinton went into the hospital for his surgery the general sentiment over there was everyone was sitting around with piss up to their eyeballs because they were (in someone's exact words): "saving up to piss on his grave".

Of course, if you go over there now they are all claiming they prayed relentlessly for him. Funny how that works, huh?

[quiet.american]

170. I agree

n/t

[Name removed]

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[TankLV]

297. I am inclined to agree with you on this one.

I am REALLY REALLY endeavoring NOT to think such thoughts.

Things are unfolding PERFECTLY, as they should.

All things will be revealed.

There IS darkness before the dawn.

Sometimes good and the truth take a little longer.

All will be revealed.

We have to concentrate on GOOD thoughts and the LIGHT. We cannot sink to THEIR level.

But we don't have to mourn this bit of news, either.

Like your mother said - "If you can't say anything nice about someone, don't say anything at all".

I choose to say nothing at this time.

[Career Prole]

165. A cold, with shortness of breath? My HMO would dictate cough medicine

and then refuse to pay for the E.R. for wasting their time with a non-emergency, and I have a stent myself.
Get well soon, Crashcart...stick around for your trial.

[robbedvoter]

174. Dick cast the tiebreaking vote make sure that seniors are denied medical

care in extreme circumstances. Back in 2001.

[Career Prole]

186. The neocon "Ownership Society".

"You should have taken better care of that body, Grandpa...you're stuck with it now!"

[seimmud]

171. Not biting my tongue.

I dont wish evil on anyone because Im better than that.

And apparently better than some people here...

We are supposed to be better than this.

[Domitan]

183. If you feel the same sentiments for Stalin and Hitler,

more power to you...if not, you need to consider why people really feel that way about Cheney. Some of it is more than sheer hateful immaturity.

[NEOBuckeye]

307. Indeed. Cheney is truly as rotten as they come.

I don't wish for his death, but I certainly can't say that I'll be sorry to see him go when his date with the Grim Reaper comes, considering all of the grief, heartache and suffering he has caused for so many people. His lust for power knows no bounds, and he shown no remorse for the innocent lives he has destroyed for his selfish ambitions.

He deserves whatever he's got coming to him. In spades.

[Zhade]

311. Cheney is a liar, a thief, a murderer, and a traitor.

So I can understand why some would want to piss on the grave of a man who lied - who continues to lie daily - and aided in the death of tens of thousands of people while raping the Treasury and shredding the Constitution.

I'm not saying I'm going to piss on his grave when he finally, happily, shuffles off this mortal coil into the hell he's prepared for himself through his own actions - but I won't say that I WON'T, either.

Fuck Cheney. If he recovers, fine, it'll make seeing him up on war crimes charges worth it. If he dies, fine, one less unAmerican bloodsucker parasiting off the American citizenry.

If that makes me worse than some newbie who wants to rise above it to get on with "the healing", you'll forgive me for not really caring.

[nadinbrzezinski]

176. SOmeday when I meet my maker Iwill be sorry

I feel ZERO human empathy for him or his wife or his kids....

I know they feel zero empathy for me either, so THERE!

[seimmud]

184. Not only uncompassionate...You can also read minds?

This place sometimes insults me.

Cant just be a human before being a partisan?

[nadinbrzezinski]

194. Don't preach

as a medic I took care of people who deserved (in the view of many) zero empathy... they made Chenney look like a boy scout

DIfference is, many of them did cause a lot of harm (drug lords do you know), but not even in their best day did they cause as much damage as this administration

I am not wishing him death, or life, I just feel zero empathy... clear enough for you now?

[cubsfan forever]

197. Excellent riposte! n/t

[Domitan]

199. This is not partisanship

This is a response to incredible human evil. If Cheney was a democrat, I'd feel the same way. Excuse us if we're not enlightened saints enough to actually mourn for utterly wicked humans.

[VivaKerry]

273. LOL, but you know what?

Damn if the man (or any in his gang of thugs) were ever left out in the cold and starving. I would get them in and feed them.


But would I be glad if the universe dolled them out some special life lesson medicine? Uh huh, I would. Because everyone gets what is coming to them, regardless of the compassion that a mere mortal might have for them.

[Child_Of_Isis]

280. Absolutely none!

As he feels none for the troops nor their families!

[VegasWolf]

187. If he goes, I wonder who Halliburton will send to "help" awol? n/t

[robbedvoter]

193. I read somewhere he has AIDS - got it from W. Wait, it was here I read it!

[Libby2]

196. My mamma taught me, if I couldn't say anything nice

I shouldn't say anything at all.



N/T

[bacchant]

198. It's going to be a pretty embarrassing thread if all he needs is antacid.

Any word on his actual condition?

[MADem]

231. He apparently got the cold

..on a HUNTING TRIP OUT WEST, LAST WEEK. That's HIS PEOPLE's excuse, anyway.

Well, they can't blame the poor bastards in the Northeast for giving him the cold, at least.

[seemslikeadream]

201. Halliburton is having a bad day Dale Paschal Jones, now Cheney

Thanks Minstrel Boy


Dale Jones, former Halliburton leader (dies)

Nov. 13, 2004
Houston Chronicle

DALLAS - Dale Paschal Jones, a former Baylor University regent and president of Halliburton Corp. who was known as much for his devotion to Christian ministry as his business skills, has died of complications from a head injury. He was 68.

Jones, who led the multi-billion-dollar oil-services corporation before Vice President Dick Cheney took over in 1995, died Nov. 6 at a Houston hospital.

He had struck his head while hurrying under a closing garage door after triggering an inside control, his family said.

Though his injury appeared to be minor, it caused internal bleeding that put pressure on his brain.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/2898494

[goodboy]

211. They say it comes in 3's...who's next? (nt)

[grasswire]

224. that link isn't working

Did they pull the story, or what?

[seemslikeadream]

227. here it is

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/2898494

[IndianaGreen]

202. Don't you find it odd that we haven't had an update from hospital?

It has been an hour since Cheney went in and there hasn't been any information coming out of the hospital. Looks like a news blackout to me!

[halobeam]

213. Well, tune into the international news....

They'll update us.

[Catherine Vincent]

206. If I were Cheney I would have resigned a long time ago

to spend time with family and friends. He's super rich, no job is worth the stress. And if I were him, I wouldn't be as mean-spirited as he is either.

Get well soon, Dick!

[Verve]

212. I'm praying that he is o.k. He needs to be healthy when he goes to jail!

[grasswire]

222. Jeb, and congestive heart failure

1. Jeb. Eight years. It could happen.

2. Important points about the few clues we have.

A. It's worse than they're telling us. Cheney has the facilities always at hand to treat a heart attack and to diagnose shortness of breath. So why is he at the hospital?

B. They're doing "serial EKGs" and probably cardiac enzymes (three blood tests six hours apart) to determine heart damage. They could do that at home. Why is he at the hospital?

C. Shortness of breath can also signal Congestive Heart Failure OR a pulmonary problem. Pneumonia, maybe. Pulmonary edema? I've always assumed that he had some measure of CHF because of his puffiness.

[PCIntern]

226. grasswire:

Exactly what I was thnking...he was clearly forced at his debate and exercising physical restraint and pacing himself. He is not well...to say the least.

May I add D. He knows something's gonna happen in the next few days and it pushed him into crisis. My dad went thru the same thing with his CHF/Renal Railure - had emotional episode which IMO, precipitated his decline.

[morcatknits]

287. Don't overlook the Dynasty Factor

No matter what they say, the Bush family is highly into what they consider a dynastic era. My bet is on Jeb. GW would put on a face like, "I just can't go on, unless Jeb helps me." Then -- 8 more years.

Problem is, Jeb has a few smarts, and he can talk. Lots of other problems, but the far right has been very willing to overlook those kinds of problems, lately.

I'm not surprised that Cheney might really be sick, after that campaign, but no sympathy here. He chose to do that.
morcatknits

[LisaL]

225. If something were to happen to Cheney, can Bush

pick anyone to replace him, or are there any rules of succession,
like there are for President?

[shanti]

229. jesus christ, this thread has blown the heck up!

100 posts in 20 minutes! can you just feel the LOVE??!! :evilgrin:

[DS1]

237. Hey, don't have a heart attack over it or anything

:-)

[dkofos]

288. I can feel it just oozing

[MayJuly4]

232. Let's say he is too ill to continue

Who do you think we'll replace him?

[PCIntern]

234. Jenna. n/t

[TahitiNut]

233. Schadenfreude justice?

Was Cheney celebrating Arafat's death? Whatever goes around, comes around.

[leesa]

235. Good riddance to bad rubbish!

Won't bother me a bit if it's fatal.

[terip64]

236. Could he be faking?

Have you seen the new updates at http://www.blackboxvoting.org/?
Could they be trying to get the attention off of this news? First thing I thought. Just thought I would share it. I don't think anyone would put it past them.

[LisaL]

242. Well, he is not in good health with a history of heart problems.

So, I don't think he has to fake anything.

[meganmonkey]

255. This could just be a convenient distraction

and it wouldn't surprise me if he's just fine. Quite a few big stories lost their front-page status in the last hour, like the almost 50 us troops killed in the last 4 or 5 days, the fact that while fallujah is 'almost under US control', several other Iraq cities have exploded into serious shitstorms, voting fraud is getting more attention, oh, and the peterson case :P

[eowyn_of_rohan]

267. Stress from FRAUD accusations

Terror of being discovered and brought down!

[Zhade]

318. I'm sorry - DID YOU SAY 50 SOLDIERS?

Wow, it's really escalating in Iraq. Not that I can blame the Iraqis...

Wonder when the draft'll hit.

[bluedeminredstate]

265. Did you see his color at the VP debate?

Could he have looked any whiter and sicker? All those clogged ateries full of hate, greed and evil - just can't get the blood to the rest of his body...

[Catchawave]

239. Fair winds and following seas Dick....

True Liberal that I am, taking this outside my box, and wishing him well.

Though, true skeptic that I am, are we being punk'd again? Sorry, Dickie.

[neuvocat]

243. Cheney will be fine.

With all the advances in medical technology these days, his doctors can look at the LED's in his eyes and look for certain blinking patterns. They can tell right away if its a collapsed lung for example or if his internal power supply just needs to be replaced.

[Greylyn58]

248. I Don't Like To Wish

ill on anyone. I remember how much I disliked Regan, but when I heard he had been shot I wished him a speedy recovery.

However having said that, my dislike for Cheney is 10 times what I felt against Regan, and I have to wonder if Cheney's nasty, evil behavior and all the bile he spewed during his campaigning hasn't returned to bite him in the ass.

That old saying "What comes around, goes around" comes to mind.

:eyes:

[DancingBear]

249. Quick - someone find Lynne's "novel" and read it to him!

Two or three pages of a little soft-core girl-on-girl and that boy will flat line right outta here.

[mac56]

251. "Weekend At Bernie's III"

nm

[54anickel]

252. Weird, on the same day he sticks up for Rummy? Could it be LaRouche

was on to something in that one post above? Indictments getting too close for comfort?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x986254

http://www.nysun.com/article/4694

Cheney Protects Rumsfeld's Job Until the Spring
BY JAMIE DETTMER - Staff Reporter of the Sun
November 12, 2004

WASHINGTON - Donald Rumsfeld is likely to remain at the Pentagon until the spring, enabling him to to stay in the administration through the Iraqi elections and advance his plans for transforming the American military, despite strong pressure from key White House political advisers for him to leave sooner.

According to well-placed Pentagon sources, Vice President Cheney has argued the case for Mr. Rumsfeld to remain as defense secretary until at least the spring, and Mr. Cheney would prefer that Mr. Rumsfeld stayed longer.

Karl Rove and other White House advisers, however, have maintained that Mr. Rumsfeld has become a political liability and will undermine possible improvement in relations between Washington and European allies, the sources said. "The White House political shop wants him out now," a senior Defense Department source said of Mr. Rumsfeld.

Much will depend on what happens with the national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice. Administration officials told The New York Sun that Ms. Rice, who spearheaded the White House's decision a year ago to take command from the Pentagon of the American occupation of Iraq, wants to replace Mr. Rumsfeld.

Mr. Cheney and Mr. Rumsfeld are old friends who served together in the Ford administration, and the vice president was instrumental in getting Mr. Rumsfeld appointed defense secretary in the first place.

[Bo]

253. Good timing with the * monument

[meganmonkey]

263. How can he die? He's a robot, for goodness' sake

This is just another ploy to make us think he's human!


:)

[Buddyblazon]

264. I know this sounds awful...BUT...

I made a bet with my Bush loving Father 4 years ago...that Cheney wouldn't survive the term because of his baked-potato like heart.

I've got a hundred dollar steak dinner riding on it. I'm not really sure how I feel about this.

Steak dinner...a man's life....steak dinner...a man's life.

How SHOULD I feel about this?

[cyr330]

282. Rejoice!

It looks like you're going to win the steak dinner!

[Buddyblazon]

296. Well his "potato" ain't done yet.

LISTEN UP EVERYBODY...I'D LIKE YOU ALL TO PRAY FOR OL' BUDDY HERE! IF WE ALL PRAY REEEAAAAAALLLLLYY HARD...MAYBE GOD WILL ANSWER OUR PRAYERS! JOIN ME WILL YOU!

"Dear God,

We pray to you now to ask...please win brother Buddy his steak dinner. Not just any steak dinner. A hundred dollar steak dinner. Like maybe a nice Porterhouse. With a baked potato...covered in sour cream....chives...and bacon bits. With all your omnipotent powers...we ask that you give brother Buddy a hand in his 4 year journey for this meal. So that he may point and laugh at his Dad as grade A prime juice runs down his chin...only to be washed down with a nice Chianti.

We ask this in the name of Jesus Christ...our savior (and a beef lover himself)....

Amen"


Thanks for your prayers everybody.

[anamandujano]

329. this post is really making me wonder

what the deleted posts were

[yorkiemommie1]

316. you must decide...

rare, medium, or well-done?

[yorkiemommie1]

317. you must decide...

rare, medium, or well-done?

[HR_Pufnstuf]

266. tests run - faux news.

Interrogation of the internal device
Electrocardiogram

and possibly a heart echo test.

dr sipes on fox news.

[Lost Creek]

270. The undead do not die from natural causes.

Buffy must have taken action

[cyr330]

277. Oh I hate to say it

NOT. I don't hate to say it at all. I hope he fucking dies, and I hope it hurts. That fucker can just burn in hell as far as I'm concerned.

[Neverarepublican]

285. If he is

feeling pain or panic, think of all the troops and Iraq people that may have felt pain or panic right before their deaths.

[davekriss]

290. I wish no man harm

I harbor no man ill will. (Honest, look at my avatar.) However, I do feel a song comin' on...

Come you masters of war
You that build all the guns
You that build the death planes
You that build the big bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks

You that never done nothin'
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it's your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly

Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain

You fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
As young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud

You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood
That runs in your veins

How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I'm young
You might say I'm unlearned
But there's one thing I know
Though I'm younger than you
Even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do

Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul

And I hope that you die
And your death'll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand o'er your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead

---Bob Dylan, Masters of War, 1963

[Cha]

293. There are fates worse than death and

that needs to happen to dickwad-second in command to the chimpdick!

[Name removed]

299. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[54anickel]

300. Sheesh, here's a nice pic - looks like Jabba

[ElectroPrincess]

319. Here's a novel thought -

How do you think * is dealing with this latest hospitalization?

How can the USA go on smoothly without President ... errr ... Vice President Cheney at the helm.

Perhaps John Cougarstein puts the panicky thoughts that may be running through * small small mind most eloquently



in the following Real Audio Clip:

http://artists.iuma.com/site-bin/ramgen.ram?aid=66393&sid=220265



John Cougarstein's Home Page = http://www.cougarstein.com/

[54anickel]

322. ROFLMAO!!! Great toon and Audio clip - hadn't heard that one!

Thanks for sharing!

[ElectroPrincess]

325. You're welcome : - )

I don't have any connections or am related to this satirist, John Courgarstein, but I think he's a scream = hilarious dark humor song parodies.

[Chicago Democrat]

305. Oh please live Cheney...We don't want Guilianni!!!

Or maybe we do... I'm so confused... I hate when anyone dies.

[drb]

308. Satan just put in a rush order for 20 million tons of coal....

....just in case!

[RUAWHACKO]

314. Is it just me?

Who thinks we may be about to find out what John McCain was promised?

I don't think Cheney is going to die- but I'm wondering if he wont just have to quit now... you know, time to relax blah blah blah

[lawladyprof]

315. Watch out for R. pres. nominee to go in that slot--eom

[KitSileya]

324. Ok, I dunno how popular this will be,

but I don't wish the death of anyone. Therefore, I hope it's not serious, tho' for a man who's had 5 heart attacks, nothing health related can be minor. If only for his family, I pray he doesn't die.


"Patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness for anyone." -Edith Cavell-

[ElectroPrincess]

334. I can resepect those sentiments ... here's a test of your convictions

How about to replace President .. oops! Vice President Cheney * selects someone really ... like really Fundy beyond belief KitSileya?


I won't say exactly who but let's just sing out LOUD AND PROUD ... now that he's free from the Fatherland Patriot World Tour ---------------------------------->

LET THE EAGAL SOAR! ...



ROTFLMAO and seriously freaked coz McCain and Guliani are no personality match for * - won't happen but ...

[Javaman]

331. And we are surprise this is happening because????

Oh folks come on, we knew moron didn't have the guts to get rid of chaneyass. I will always believe that this bullshit is staged. He's going to put ol' tommy boy delay in as vp. he's going to surround himself with his texas good ol' boys for the next 4 years. He started with abu gonzales. Just you wait and see.

[DeepModem Mom]

333. FYI, here is the DU RULE that applies to this thread --

"Do not post messages that advocate harm or death to anyone...."

[ElectroPrincess]

335. Understood, but I refuse to send flowers and blow kisses to

ANYBODY in the * Executive Branch ... oh, what the hell! I'd not hesistate to blow sweet good-will kisses to "Barney". LOL

[Moderator]

336. Cheney has been released

so this thread is no longer news
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=250276