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floda (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 06:14 PM Original message |
PM admits graves claim 'untrue' (UK) |
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troublemaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. This is a BIG story |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 06:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. which part? |
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StandUpGuy (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 03:27 AM Response to Reply #3 |
69. The world already does |
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Devils Advocate NZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 07:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. Sounds just like Kosovo... |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. Freaking HUGE STORY. 400,000 downscaled to 5,000? |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. Okay, yes, this is a big deal. |
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troublemaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 06:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. But we've killed about 10,000 civilians there (conservative figure) |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 07:30 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Don't forget military casualties of 40,000+ |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 08:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
25. Agreed. Crazy like everything else about Iraq. |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 06:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. It's not the number. It's the lie, the embellishment. |
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troublemaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 07:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. You're quite right, but only in terms of the ambiance of dishonesty |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 08:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
26. I know that's the point, Jen. =] |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 11:06 AM Response to Reply #26 |
58. how can you NOT differentiate 5000 deaths from 400,000 |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 08:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. i'm thinking those 5000 were the insurgents that Bush Sr |
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shockingelk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 08:56 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. I'm wondering about bodies from the Iran/Iraq war |
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Jazzgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 08:27 AM Response to Reply #27 |
39. You got it shockingelk. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
5. So we put 8x as many people in mass graves as Saddam |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
6. Amazing, isn't it? Completely consistant with what we've already seen..... |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
8. 5,000 is not a small amount |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 07:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. The only fact in this entire story is that 5000 were found in a mass.... |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 07:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. it also mentions locations: Kurdistan and the Saudi border |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 05:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
51. Also during Gulf War I |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 09:37 AM Response to Reply #14 |
43. It does not say 5000 were found in "a" mass grave |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 11:42 AM Response to Reply #8 |
48. I remembered reading your post yesterday when I heard this remark |
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troublemaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 09:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. apalling (too bad NBC doesn't read the papers) |
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LittleApple81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
10. And the rape rooms...we are competing there too...Wow! Hurra for American |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
11. To be fair - |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 07:11 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. None of us posting in this forum know if Saddam killed anyone,.... |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 08:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. To be REALLY fair... |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 02:10 AM Response to Reply #23 |
67. All accounts had tons and tons of WMDs as well. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 10:53 AM Response to Reply #11 |
77. I DO KNOW SOME THINGS |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
15. Just 5,000 "bad apples" huh? |
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Gruenemann (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 07:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. How many mass graves |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 09:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. Uh-huh -- and let's never mention the "Highway of Death" |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
19. Encouraging: When I Google "400,000 - Iraq - Blair"... |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
20. USA Today - 12/2003 - Blair claims 400,000 already found in mass graves |
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Career Prole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
24. This is wild! |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
28. Recently I saw a new story which stated the the Kurds were killed |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-17-04 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
30. Blair is no less a liar than Bush |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
31. The point that apologists for the Iraq invasion miss completely |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 01:54 AM Response to Original message |
32. Wow, the Saddam apologists are out in full force on this thread |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 02:30 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. And yet, |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 02:36 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Without naming names, |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 02:59 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. I'm just reading these differently from you I guess... |
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Redleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 08:49 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. "Fudging" numbers? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 11:12 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Again, |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 02:15 AM Response to Reply #44 |
68. Yes, and the case that Hussein had WMDs was equally CLOSED. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 10:36 AM Response to Reply #68 |
75. The numbers certainly have less support than before. |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 02:09 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Right, I read all the HRW stuff. I'm convinced that Hussein treated |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 03:40 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. If Saddam treated them the way the US treated Native Americans, |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 09:09 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. And, like clockwork, YOU crawl out of the woodwork to post these |
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LivingInTheBubble (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 01:08 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. Maybe those are the graves of those killed by americans. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 04:56 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. They get buried by their families or communities, I would guess. |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 12:36 AM Response to Reply #50 |
56. you're killing me here... |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 11:00 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. What's your point? |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 11:13 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Of course they are mass graves. Filled with 1000s buried alive, at that. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 11:32 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Wow, you are quite the psychic. |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 11:43 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. where? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 12:23 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. If you can't summon the effort to read the posts in this thread, that's |
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sistersofmercy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 08:04 AM Response to Reply #57 |
71. WRONG! |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 10:22 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Of course we killed innocent civilians in the bombing |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 11:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
61. of course you don't "name names" |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 08:17 AM Response to Reply #34 |
72. Blair apologist |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 03:27 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. HINT: The British were firstto use using poison gas in Iraq in 1920 |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 11:13 AM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Q: What does that have to do with Saddam? |
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Cooley Hurd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 08:04 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Um... no. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 11:17 AM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Google Pelletiere. |
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pschoeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 03:50 AM Response to Reply #46 |
70. Halabja happened in 1988 |
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cureautismnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 11:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
55. According to the C.I.A. ... |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 11:14 AM Response to Reply #32 |
60. thanks for the logic lesson |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 10:27 AM Response to Reply #32 |
74. Iraq and Iran were at war for a while and it is quite possible |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
37. Blair been listening to the American media again.... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 11:34 AM Response to Reply #37 |
47. Actually, if you read article, he was listening to HRW and Iraqis. |
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mithnanthy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
42. I'm watching Meet The Press...... |
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peekaloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 05:09 PM Response to Reply #42 |
52. saw that part, too. Silly me was waiting for Tiny Tim to challenge him... |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 11:29 AM Response to Reply #42 |
63. I knew that figure sounded familiar |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-18-04 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
53. Now that Saddam may go to trial, these claims will be scrutinized |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-19-04 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
62. A few weeks ago I commented that I hadn't yet bought in to the |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #62 |
81. So how do we spot the "truth"? |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
76. more lies from the repukes exposed |
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DubyaSux (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-23-04 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
78. The irony... |
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