Iraq/Breaking--heavy fighting in Ramadi now, as well

[Aidoneus]

On the Euphrates west of al-Fallujah. Hundreds of fighters attacking the occupation base, supposedly members of Sayyid Muqtada al-Sadr's Jaysh al-Mahdi. Silly boy:--he needs to be informed that this is the "Sunni Triangle".

US forces are taking casualties, but military/occupation authorities are not releasing any information.

[ewagner]

1. Link?

where is this being reported?

[qanda]

2. Oh Lord

Please HELP!

[jean]

3. apparently he is uniting the Sunni's and Shiia's - see here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x468337

[fryguy]

7. he IS the uniter

he's united:

loggers with virgin forests
rich folks with tax breaks
poor folks with prisons
haliburton with no bid contracts
church with state
soldiers with the grave and wheelchairs
children with a skyrocketing deficit


- please add -

[northernsoul]

good one, fryguy!

I think your list deserves its own post, so we can add to it and pass it around.

[fryguy]

80. good idea...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=110x4979

pass it along.....keep the string alive until November.....

[PfcHammer]

17. shite with the fan ...c/o mike1963 n/t

[jean]

77. I'm talking about Sadr not b*sh, although b*sh triggered the whole mess

[Earth_First]

4. Link?

Who's carrying these developments...

[fryguy]

5. this is turning into one big sh*t-burger

and, one way or another, we're all gona end up taking a bite out of it....

[soothsayer]

6. "Mission Accomplished" "Bring it on"

What a moron in chief. Nice going, dumbass.

[Enraged_Ape]

15. Mama always said life was like a shit sandwich

The more bread you have, the less shit you have to eat.

[sistersofmercy]

72. BWAHAHAHAHAHA! "Life is like a jar of jalapenos...

You never know which one is going to burn your ass." Paul Rodrigez
Looks like bush* has found that jalapeno.

[newyorican]

73. I believe that should be...

A shit sandwich, with no bread and extra shit.

[The_Casual_Observer]

8. "I'm ready to lead"

Chimp November 1999

[catmandu57]

9. I just heard it on ABC news

For what that's worth, reporting heavy fighting with two marines injured, we're back to the Ateam war.

[dawgman]

10. link

http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=3526308e-ba68-4c70-ba83-0249848cb331

In the nearby city of Ramadi, another hotbed of guerrilla activity 24 miles west of Fallujah, U.S. troops and insurgents clashed on a downtown street. One Iraqi was killed and three wounded, doctors said.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0407/p01s02-wome.html

Marines have cordoned off Fallujah, where the murder and mutilation of four US security contractors shocked the world last week, and information coming out is scant and unreliable. The marines have made the policy decision not to provide details on the location and nature of attacks. Residents reported the boom of shells and the crack of rifles through much of Sunday night. The Associated Press also reported the Sunni Triangle fighting appears to have spread to Ramadi, near Fallujah, where at least one Iraqi was killed Tuesday.

[mike1963]

11. Wolfie calling it "major" and "significant" Shia offensive...

the feces are impacting the rotary air circulator...

:grr:

[dawgman]

13. what a mess. What happens if Sistani comes down on the side

of intifada?

[theHandpuppet]

16. Then we put our men and women on planes...

... and get the hell out of there once and for all!!!!!

[Karenina]

25. HALLO!!!! HANDPUPPET!!

ROTFLMAO!!! Errrraaa... YES!!! BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Shit, my keyboard. Chortle, choke, Taschentuch...

Errrraaa... YES.

[Name removed]

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[plurality]

18. he already has

http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/20...article03.shtml

‘Solidarity’

Shiites’ spiritual leader Sistani, in the meantime, voiced his solidarity with Sadr, Aljazeera satellite channel quoted a close aide to the veteran Shiite leader as saying.

Sistani said “the demonstrators' demands are legitimate” and “condemns acts waged by the occupation forces and pledges his support to the families of the victims”, he said.

[robertpaulsen]

31. Can't connect to the link

Says the page either doesn't exist or link typed incorrectly. Help! I really want to read this! Is there another link to english aljazeera perhaps?

[plurality]

34. weird, try this

http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/2004-04/06/article03.shtml

[robertpaulsen]

68. Thanks, that works!

Great article. Doesn't seem like they heard the call for restraint and calm in Ramadi though. I think rising passions have reached the point of no return.

[jimshoes]

12. CNN now reporting

Attack under way in Ramadi

[Zech Marquis]

54. watching it on CNN now

both CNN and MSNBC report 12 Marines killed in Ramadi :grr: shit, now it's AT LEAST!!

[Sticky]

14. The revolt according to al-Jazeera

"The uprising will continue and we will not negotiate unless they fulfil our demands, which are a withdrawal from populated areas and the release of prisoners," al-Sadr aide Qays al-Ghazali said on Tuesday.


"I direct my words to the great evil, Bush, and I ask who is against democracy? Is it the one who is advocating peaceful resistance or the one who is bombing the nation and shedding blood?" he said.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/5F79E495-C18B-4F11-A554-CD4F679B50D9.htm

[Mari333]

19. If they attack Abu Ghuraib, where Michael is stationed West

of Baghdad, he will be killed, and with Sisatni backing Sadr now, the odds of people attacking the Abu Ghraib prison are very possible.
God help my husband, as I have to now tell him this too.
http://www.bringthemhomenow.com

[Tinoire]

20. Michael is in my prayers Mari.

:hug:

as are all the DUers and their loved ones over their.

[Career Prole]

45. I'll add the most heartfelt "ditto" I've ever uttered...

:hug:

[Aidoneus]

21. the concentration camp there is safe for now

the action is many miles to the west at this time. May your son return soon and safely.

[Mari333]

23. if its any solace I know its a concentration camp

and I know over 18,000 people are being held with no charges, and I know my stepson does not want to be there and hates Bush with a passion and is caught up in the lies perpetrated by this admin, and was told he would go to jail for his views, and was afraid, and went, and was harassed by his commaning officer for MY anti war activities, and was also harassed by some of his fellow unit members for his stance on the war as "Bullshit".
Just bring them home, and let the Iraqis have their country.
http://www.bringthemhomenow.com

[Aidoneus]

32. sounds like a good kid, I wish him well

[Bonhomme Richard]

40. I hope Michael stays safe. Pray for you.

[northernsoul]

60. Mari, please let us know if there's anything we can do

You are absolutely in our thoughts and prayers, but please let us know if you need support in other ways - we've got a talented and good-heared bunch here at DU, and we're behind you and Michael 100%

[skip fox]

61. My hopes are with your son.

n/t

[ewagner]

62. Mari

I'm praying for Michael...and I usually don't pray....but I'm with you.

:hug:

[bemildred]

78. Percentagewise casualties are small and likely

to stay that way. Keep hope alive. I hope he comes
home soon, with all the rest.

[TankLV]

79. I feel for you Mari and pray for you and your family.

My partner's nephew is assigned to defend this place, I think. Haven't talked to his mom & dad yet - she is very upset also.

God I hate bunkerboy for bringing all this to pass.

I am long past just wishing Kharmic justice on that bunch of criminals occupying OUR White House.

It is not permissable to tell anyone what I truely wish on these people and their families.

BRING OUR TROUPS HOME NOW!

[goclark]

82. I'm praying right now for you

[WillyT]

22. Wolfie To Update On CNN At Top Of Hour (2:00 PST\5:00 EST) !!!

6 minutes away!

Just restated that "this is significant fighting".

Stay tuned...

[mike1963]

24. Did you forget to spring forward last Sunday?

:evilgrin:

[WillyT]

35. I Don't Think So...

Clock said 2:00, program started at 2:00, watching the program now 2:11...

Pacific Daylight Savings Time of course...

What am I missing???

:silly:

[mike1963]

74. I was just bein' a smartass. You wrote PST & EST, now PDT & EDT

Sorry, this thread has me so p-o'd...
:eyes:
(Not the thread, actually, I mean what is being talked about. Bush, god damn you to hell)

[WillyT]

76. You Are Correct... I Missed That !!!

:hi:

Yeah, I'm furious as well.

:mad:

[lumpy]

26. Saddam predicted this would happen.

And so did many DUers

[Mari333]

30. yes and no one listened to us when we marched. we all knew .

and we were right. and now we watch our predictions unfold. And after I marched 3 times against this bloodbath, the Bush admin still didnt listen, and took our kid.
No one listened.
No one, we were called a focus group.
I hope Bush and all his followers rot in hell.

[Minstrel Boy]

27. "FEWER THAN A DOZEN MARINES HAVE BEEN KILLED"

Jeeezus.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

28. a dozen US soldiers killed in Ramadi? did i hear that right? wolfie disput

this WTF...this guy is there wolfie is an asshole and covering up the truth....the whore...now this guy walter rogers got the message and is now playing the ....there is some BAD shit going down and the whores aren't letting the truth out

[minkyboodle]

36. its disgusting

what the fuck does fewer than a dozen mean? They don't know what is going on there so much for the embedded coverage eh.... Fox News even has a new graphic for operation Valient Resolve... ugh
Scott

[PassingFair]

38. Next it will be

A Tad Less Than Twenty...
I'm crying.

[theHandpuppet]

29. MSNBC now reporting soldiers killed

MSNBC is now reporting U.S. soldiers have been killed in Ramadi fighting -- no exact figures given.

God, this is horrible. Will someone PLEASE END THIS FURKING WAR!!!!!! Bring our troops home NOW!

[hatrack]

33. About 2 minutes ago, MSNBC was reporting on (drum roll, please)

That's right, the KOBE BRYANT TRIAL.

Yes, when "less than a dozen Marines" have been killed in the last few hours, there's nothing America needs to hear more than Lester Holt's maunderings about a STUPID FUCKING CELEBRITY SEX TRIAL!!!!!

Sorry, but these people really, really, REALLY piss me off!!

[seemslikeadream]

37. Faux says maybe 12 and also CNN

Cremating on the riverbank bodies gathered in trucks
Drawing / Shigeo Fujii
August 17, 1945
Approx. 2,000m from the hypocenter
Fukushima-cho

http://www.pcf.city.hiroshima.jp/virtual/VirtualMuseum_e/exhibit_e/exh0303_e/exh03034.html

[alcuno]

39. They had some retired general on who said more than 10 and less than 90.

They must have had a report saying 90. Bad news all around.

[seemslikeadream]

43. This is not good

Countless blistered, gray, unrecognizable corpses
Drawing / Anonymous
3:00 to 4:00 p.m., August 8, 1945
Approx. 250m from the hypocenter
Moto-machi

http://www.pcf.city.hiroshima.jp/virtual/VirtualMuseum_e/exhibit_e/exh0303_e/exh03034.html

[Cooley Hurd]

41. CNN confirming AT LEAST 12 US Marines killed in Ramadi

Just now on CNN TV - Pentagon saying this was a Sunni offensive, NOT Shiite. CNN's Jamie McIntyre says the toll could be higher... :(

[sniffa]

42. at Least 12 dead now

saying they're 'former regime LoyaLists' and not sadr's foLLowers. the attack highLy organized.

[Blaze Diem]

44. News now stating "significant coalition losses"...??

"Significant"??????? their dumbing dowm method of reporting THE TRUTH!

[LizW]

46. Shit

The fact that they're saying "significant" is bad.

[Blaze Diem]

47. marie333...My prayers to you and your son...

Safety & Strength to your family.

Blaze

[cclark401]

53. I'll be praying

for your son and husband as well.

Bush should go to prison for what he has done!

[Ripley]

48. And to think earlier Bremer said that Iraq was a "bustling" city,

in response to someone asking about the chaos. He still says the media is being unfair and only reporting the bad things instead of the wonderful new entrepeneurs in the country!

And then I heard the WSJ endorses sending Wolfowitz over there to be Bremer's replacement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:puke:

[VolcanoJen]

49. NBC News says at least 12 killed...

20 injured.

Fox News had the best information that I saw. They reported that 70-80 militia men attacked a Marine Compound, which was based in a former Royal Palace. They attacked with assault rifles, RPGs and mortars. Fox Fox News' source says that the situation is "under control" and "contained" at this time, but that the battle raged for several hours.

This is awful.

[cygy2k]

50. BREAKING-130 DEAD!!!!!!!!

I dont have enought posts to start a new thread please post this:

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1130577,00.html

A Pentagon source has said up to 130 US troops have been killed in fierce fighting in Iraq.

The large scale battle, described as "intense", has taken place in the town of Ar Ramadi, 20 miles west of Fallujah.


Sky News' David Chater said: "None of this is official yet - none of it is confirmed."

But he added: "It sounds very much like this is being carried out by men who are militarily trained."

Chater described the attack as "highly sophisticated".

More follows...

[Ripley]

55. Is Sky News reliable!

Holy Shit! That would make sense tho...since earlier reports were 90 and they kept low-balling it to between 12 and 90. Altho earlier today I saw a headline say 21 killed in last 3 days...before this Ramadi battle tho.

Horrible.

[slinkerwink]

56. ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY SOLDIERS DEAD?!?!?!?!?!?!

[Snazzy]

59. That's a TYPO

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A55397-2004Apr6.html


AP News Alert

The Associated Press
Tuesday, April 6, 2004; 5:28 PM


WASHINTON - Pentagon says up to a dozen Marines may have been killed in fighting in Iraq.

[Snazzy]

63. Or is it? Longer Sky story

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-13047720,00.html

HEAVY FIGHTING IN IRAQ

A large number of soldiers have been killed in fierce fighting in Iraq, according to unconfirmed reports. Some reports have put the toll as high as 130.


The large scale battle, described as "intense", has taken place in the town of Ar Ramadi, 20 miles west of Fallujah.

Sky News' David Chater said: "None of this is official yet - none of it is confirmed."

But he added: "It sounds very much like this is being carried out by men who are militarily trained."

....

The AP Breaking is confirmed number by Pentagon. I was assuming a zero got tossed on there. 130 could also be a mix of various forces, including Iraqi. Hell and quagmire going on regardless. How many civilians???

[hatrack]

65. "Some reports" - I'll wait for confirmation and hope like hell it's false

;-(

[Bonhomme Richard]

51. I guess George won't be going to Crawford................

or will he?

[goclark]

83. He'll be in Crawford n/t

Damn him!!!
Our precious soldiers and for what-oil! greed!

[TolstoyAndy]

85. Of course Jr will go to Crawford

Being a lazy-ass crap sack who couldn't care less
about the people he kills, of course he'll go.

Unless his advisors (who "don't listen to polls") advice him not to.

[Blaze Diem]

52. So where's Bush today while this horror escalates??? At another $2000..

...at another $2000 a plate fundraiser for the dictator in cheif!??
I am so freakin pissed at Bush, & the supporters of his seige on the Middle East.

May God Save Planet Earth from Siociopath Bush..& HURRY!

[Blaze Diem]

57. 130 DEAD!!!..How will Bush White House SPIN This One? Condi Talks on THur

IMPEACH this lying *astard. Cheney, Rummy, Powell, Bush, The whole sorry LOT of them.

An hour ago Judy Woodruff was defending Bush against Ted Kennedy's comparison of Iraq to Vietnam..Sen Chuck Hagel was on also, to denounce the comparisons..

CARE to regurgitate that commentary????

[spotbird]

69. We are WINNING THE PEACE, is how he'll spin it!

The more death and destruction, the more proof that we are winning.

Any questions?

[Bonhomme Richard]

58. Muqtada pushes Bush to the brink

[DeepModem Mom]

64. Sky reliable, Chater great reporter -- but 130 NOT confirmed...

according to Chater himself. I will see if Chater reports from Baghdad at the top of the hour on Sky UK tv.

[dudeness]

66. bring home the troops now..

..

[Malva Zebrina]

70. Oh for godamms sake, how can it be that we do not know these

casualties or deaths?
\
Why and what the f&&& is going on? Do we or do we not have 130 deaths of our soldiers to deal with? What is going on? Do we know?

Why do we not know?

Geez--what the hell is going on?

[DeepModem Mom]

75. Sky UK tv news did not mention 130 at the top of the hour...

and gave only the Pentagon number of a dozen killed in Ramadi. David Chater, who reported unconfirmed 130, did not report at the top of the hour from Baghdad.

[leftchick]

71. 12 US Troops Dead in Ramadi, Is that 22 For Today?

Cripes! I did hear at least a very good analysis of the situation from a Prof. at a University in NJ with Wolfie. He at last was acknowledging that We are most likely seeing Sunni and Shiite working together! He totaly disregarded the WH spin about baathists and saddam loyalists. He said this is a united front to oust the US occupiers!! Bring The Troops Home!

[Mattforclark]

81. My thoughts are with the families

of all the troops. Mari and anyone else. My only relative over there got back a week ago.

130? :scared: :cry: :scared: :cry: :scared: :cry: :scared: :cry: :scared: :cry: :scared: :cry: :scared: :cry: :scared: :cry: :scared: :cry:

edit - the lady on NBC said maybe even 200? Who knows, news from Iraq is impossible right now?

[goclark]

84. Oh my God! End this Terror Now!!