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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 08:52 PM Original message |
Internet 'kill switch' bill approved (by Lieberman's committee) |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. K & R. When will the President get what this nation really needs - |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 06:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
36. The DLC and Obama love this guy |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
53. But he's a Constitutional Scholar (TM) nt |
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Dawson Leery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. We must oust this bastard in 2012. |
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cdsilv (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 09:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. an internet kill-switch would be really simple. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Uhm, no. |
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Incitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 11:40 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. If shutting down the entire enternet could be done by shuting down a few servers, |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 08:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
50. It was a design limitation at first, for entirely technical reasons. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 10:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
52. You *can't* "just" cut the links to them all |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 08:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
71. well I know I'll be working against him |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
3. This whole thing is stupid. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 09:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
20. There will always be Peer to Peer |
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kentauros (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 06:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
47. There are plenty of privately-owned servers out there, too. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #47 |
58. How will you connect? |
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kentauros (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:36 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. I have connected directly to other computers before. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. A LAN party/intranet does not the Internet make |
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kentauros (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 04:41 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. I don't think it was LAN or Intranet, |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 08:40 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. It still went through the infrastructure...which includes the Tier 1/2/3 providers |
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conspirator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 08:33 AM Response to Reply #63 |
70. You can only create a wireless LAN in a densely populated neighborhood |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #20 |
57. Not with anything substantial |
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IScreamSundays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 08:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
49. The thing that frightens me about this is... |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
4. So what organization would fear information? |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 09:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. our society... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 10:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
25. Wouldn't this power be handy in the lead-up to a coup of some sort? |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 12:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
33. if there were a revolution they wouldn't want the peasants texting or emailing |
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704wipes (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #33 |
65. yes, impossible to run a revolution out of the taverns |
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corkhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
5. The two most stupid things I can think of involve Lieberman |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
6. According to the proponents: What is this SUPPOSED to do? |
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SnakeEyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. In a time of crisis, a cyberattack etc |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 09:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Thanks. I was just wondering what their justification was. nt |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 08:40 AM Response to Reply #11 |
72. if another member of Bushco/BFEE gets in, knowing what's really going down would be difficult |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 09:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Pro: Say an attack was coming through MAE East, from a specific range of IP's |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 09:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Thanks. On the surface it makes sense (if it would work) and I don't fear |
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Knight Hawk (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 09:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. NO! |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
7. Rather than security hardening the internet we use a kill switch. IMO this is an |
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Beartracks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 11:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
29. That would be like Internet "Prohibition," right? |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 11:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. No, not like prohibition, I am speaking of hardening the internet infrastructure |
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Beartracks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 02:39 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Sorry, I meant the OTHER approach... |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 07:15 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Yep, we agree! |
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corpseratemedia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
8. Can't these people be even capable of being concerned with doing something to help people? |
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christx30 (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
44. Quote: "Or are they thinking there's going to be such a crisis coming up" |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
9. No picture warning |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
10. I used to say the Police State creeps in on little cat feet. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 09:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Amazing, isn't it... and always under the guise of national security, do it for the |
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PJPhreak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
14. Amendment I |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
16. Holy cow |
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elifino (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
18. This will cause interuption to a lot of manufacturing plants. |
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NRaleighLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
22. What we really need is a whiny Lieberman voice kill switch! |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
26. There goes bill pay and online banking... hmmm... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
27. Why don't they just give the president the power to take the US Government's websites |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
28. Giving a President WAY too much power with this. I don't dislike Obama, I dislike what |
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Incitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
30. So do systems under US control have the ability to affect comunications |
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caraher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
34. A seriously idiotic idea |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 09:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
67. It's funny reading the posts in this thread "oh noes!" |
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BadgerKid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
38. Not sure I trust this...wait til (if) the GOP is back in power |
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Illuminated (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #38 |
74. Not sure I trust this at all.... |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
39. Seems stupid to depend so heavily on such a vulnerable technology to begin with. |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 09:08 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Isn't it time for Spineless Harry Reid to kick Lieberman's ass... |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:42 PM Response to Reply #40 |
54. Why would he? |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. That's not a problem for the banksters: they'll just ask (and get) |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 08:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. You are assuming it's highly vulnerable to begin with. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
41. Loodrtman is a fucking FASCIST. |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
43. LIEberman strikes again. |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
45. Same ole song - silence the messenger... |
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New Dawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
46. Fascism is on the march in the USA. |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
48. This is a monumentally bad idea. |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
55. With Lieberman behind it. You know it's wrong. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Unfortunately so is the Obama administration |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #62 |
76. And I believe both he and Lieberman are wrong, then |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
56. Anything that has the power to shut down Faux and FReeperville..I support |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
64. I can only imagine what an autocrat like a President Bush or Cheney would do with this extreme |
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rayofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
68. Obama wants this. |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
69. Kill switch? Lieberman? |
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