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carincross (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:45 AM Original message |
European / Asian markets plummet |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 07:03 AM Response to Original message |
1. I think it's probably a good thing our market is closed today. (NT) |
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jordi_fanclub (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 07:18 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Good but not good enough... Germany is 7.10% down!!! |
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BB1 (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 07:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. while europeans are losing money by the minute. |
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ursi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
81. ...we are lucky, My SO stocked most of our home sale away in gold |
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jonnyra (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
4. But...we got checks comin... |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 08:38 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I'll use it to buy a tank of gas! |
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fed-up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:20 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. once again our oil man leader finds a way to funnel money to the oil companies...nt |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. With their markets obviously depending on us, it won't do too much bad... |
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ozymandius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
8. US Recession Fears Sink Global Markets |
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ozymandius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Wall Street Braces for More Volatility |
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ozymandius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Oil drops below $90 a barrel |
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ozymandius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. China is not decoupling from U.S. economy: central banker |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Comments from a lurker about fixes, symptoms, and underlying disease |
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TalkingDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Profit, profit, profit: |
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rzemanfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Whoa! I am emailing this one to everyone I know. n/t |
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ozymandius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. You point to two fundamental issues. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. three phrases jump out at me: |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. What a horrible rationalization. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #17 |
38. Please, I think maybe we've misunderstood each other |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #38 |
70. Didn't think that was You, TG. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #12 |
50. Huh? Too much healthcare? There's a huge shortage of nurses and GP s in |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #50 |
65. But that's precisely Tansy's point, isn't it? |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #50 |
68. Health Care is about 16% of GDP |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Does that include "health insurance"? |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #69 |
76. I don't have a link but can quote |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:15 PM Response to Reply #69 |
94. 16% of GDP would include all health care costs |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
61. Excellent, Tansy. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #61 |
71. Do *I* know what the candidates are proposing? |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. "Let's change things, change things dramatically." |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #71 |
90. Kucinich is the only one with a PLAN |
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ursi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
82. thanks for this post ...I am going to head over to the local bookstore to get this book |
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jonnyra (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Does anyone else see this: |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
47. "Beancounter" disease: make money, screw co., get out. Rinse, repeat. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
92. I see it |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
19. Will the cure be worse than the disease? |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. There is a huge angry elephant stomping around the living room |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #20 |
39. I'm up here in Canada right now and everyone is just watching and shaking their heads... |
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zazen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. "setting stage for bigger recession"--like when Dem takes over? |
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MidwestTransplant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #19 |
40. It's not a small recession that's the problem, it's the credit crunch that could shut down the |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. Not an easy task that. |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
22. See also eg. here (hope to see many in the US waking up and talking about the situation): |
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TalkingDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
45. I'm putting that on a tee-shirt: |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
57. Humm. Is there really no easy answer to this question? |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
58. It doesn't even apply to the majority |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
23. a pseudo SMW thread |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #23 |
56. Global Markets are not at all insignificant (and increasingly less so) to the US |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. Thanks GD |
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mcscajun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Threads from different forums are not eligible to be combined. |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. Ah, thanks mcscajun. |
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54anickel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
84. Hi Ozy. Did you catch Moyers last week? David Cay Johnston was on hawking his |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 08:39 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. David Cay Johnston was also on NPR about two weeks ago |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
24. Investors lose over $300 bn in six days (India) |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. darn, there's go my diversification strategy |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. It's definitely going global, I'm afraid. Look for maximum resilience... |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I knew it would go global |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. In a global market, it's up or down for all |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Which is odd |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. US consumer market is major importance to Japan |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. cash is king-but even the holding dollars kind of sucks. and gold seems pricey |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Well, now they know what the folks on intersecting Wall Street know: |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Too right. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #24 |
34. The money isn't "lost", really, it goes from one persons pocket to another. |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Tell that to those trying to survive Zimbabwe's economy. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
79. And isn't that what happened with Enron and all the other |
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bushisdirt (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
36. Monumental disaster ahead. |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
37. Bloomberg: Futures |
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Pale Blue Dot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Holy crap. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. DJIA Futures now down 514 points (11,592). |
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ozymandius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #43 |
83. Never attempt to catch a falling knife. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
42. A lot of chickens are finally coming home to roost |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. That's what kills me about |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
75. Exactly. n/t |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
46. Can we say a World wide Depression is upon us? |
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TalkingDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. I dunno..... flame retardant suits have been necessary in months past |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
49. Closing European indices: |
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Tiberius (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. "The Stock Market Ruined My Life" video |
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mcscajun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #53 |
67. Well, now. HE certainly wasn't having any fun last night. |
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fedsron2us (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #49 |
66. Ouch that must have hurt my Pension Fund. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
51. Here's an idea; stimulate the economy with JOBS, not consumer spending! |
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boricua79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. run for President...you have my vote already! |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Lol! Thanks! |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #55 |
77. Hey, get yourself on Edwards's team, Lorien, and fast! |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #77 |
93. Um, self-correction: Obama. After further research: |
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bikebloke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. An extrapolation of the old saying... |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Build a man a fire and he's warm for the day. |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #62 |
78. Set a man on fie and he can inspire others. n/t |
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Ellipsis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #78 |
87. LOL Great line! |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. Whoa! You're making too much sense! |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
72. Find fresh analysis from The Economist magazine here: |
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ursi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
80. ...and the walls came tumbling down! |
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Doctor Cynic (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
85. In Japan, the Nikkei is down almost 5%, and the first hour still hasn't ended! |
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SlowDownFast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
88. IT'S HAPPENING! |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
89. WooooooHooooooo!!! |
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ckramer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
91. This indicates the bottom of stock market |
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