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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:03 AM Original message |
Saudi Ambassador Abruptly Resigns, Leaves Washington |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
1. This is important. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. What's going on? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:17 AM Response to Reply #4 |
18. He is the "former" head |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:26 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. very dangerous |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 03:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
76. Such wonderful allies we make, no? |
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Mich Otter (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:18 PM Response to Reply #76 |
85. The easy answer is... |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:40 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. And the oil. |
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Chico Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 12:08 AM Response to Reply #76 |
93. We supplied Japan will everything it needed to rape Nanjing back in the 30s |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:37 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Thanks. (nt) |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:38 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. and then there is this:NYT: Iraqis Consider Ways to Reduce Power of Cleric |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:50 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. It seems likely |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:10 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. a bit more info here: |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:18 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Interesting. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:09 AM Response to Reply #18 |
30. Thanks for refreshing memories on that... |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:17 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. This falls into the |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. This is a bait to the Iranians to attack the Saudis |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:14 AM Response to Reply #39 |
59. That is probably what *ss and company would do but I would |
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LonelyLRLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:52 AM Response to Reply #59 |
65. This country could save millions of gallons of oil immediately |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 12:00 PM Response to Reply #39 |
67. Iran has no history |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 12:39 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. True. But Little Boots has set a precedent for powerful nations. n/t |
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westerebus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:24 PM Response to Reply #67 |
87. True of modern times. |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:04 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. Well said ... |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 06:34 AM Response to Reply #87 |
96. We are in |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 12:58 AM Response to Reply #67 |
94. Go tell that to the Spartans n/t |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 07:44 AM Response to Reply #94 |
97. It's important to |
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westerebus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 08:50 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Who gets the last piece of pie? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 08:54 AM Response to Reply #98 |
99. "The Iranians have used |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 09:03 AM Response to Reply #39 |
101. Puts a different spin on things when the country we are invading is our |
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independentpiney (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:26 AM Response to Reply #18 |
38. As intelligence chief he was responsible for distributing Saudi |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:39 AM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Let's hope that doesn't happen, and he's been sent packing by the "adults" in DC |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:33 AM Response to Reply #18 |
41. The meeting with al Hakim also |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:43 AM Response to Reply #41 |
46. That meeting, I think, signalled an accomodation with the Shi'a and Iran. |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:54 AM Response to Reply #46 |
55. And partially what Cheney was doing when he |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:58 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Turki is the most hawkish of the Seven who rival Abdullah |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:06 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Access to Pakistan's nukes... |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:29 AM Response to Reply #57 |
61. They don't even need the Pakistani nukes. SA has a bunch of dirty bombs, according |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
64. thanks for connecting the dots |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 04:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
77. if SA wants an attack on al-Sadr, why are they depending on US to do it? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 04:28 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. Again, |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 05:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
95. 2+2=war? |
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dubyaD40web (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:06 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Yup |
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ewagner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. I agree |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:34 AM Response to Reply #1 |
42. What H2O Man said. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
2. Who pissed him off and how/why? Ah, another striking day of diplomacy |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
3. Hmmmm........ |
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iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
6. Oh, shit. |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
8. Incoming!!!!! |
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EST (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
9. If history is any teacher, look for an H-bomb attack on DC or |
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ewagner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:12 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. More like the terrible movie |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Perhaps the Saudi Army is going to go into western Iraq and |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:27 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Saudis do their own fighting? Surely you jest. |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:30 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Perhaps someone told them they would be ... |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:36 AM Response to Reply #21 |
43. Indeed. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:18 AM Response to Reply #15 |
35. When the Royal Kuwaiti Army faced the Iraqis, they ran away, |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
10. Spend more time with his family? |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
11. Nothing suspicious here, nope |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:16 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. If you screw up big time in SA |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:23 AM Response to Reply #16 |
60. By a head. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:12 AM Response to Reply #11 |
33. it means, "Look into this little hole. No, this one. Over here. |
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necso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
13. Generally, the abrupt departure of an Ambassador is |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
14. He will probably replace Prince Saud al-Faisal as foreign minister. n/t |
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Shipwack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
17. What could be going on? Well... |
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wishlist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
19. Rumor that Cheney wants U.S. to back Shi'ites against Sunnis in Iraq |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:27 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Everyone Will Get Massacred |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:32 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. But the Sunnis are our Saudi allies. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:24 AM Response to Reply #25 |
37. actually, and offshoot of the Sunni. the Wahabis are rather more |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 12:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
68. This map should tell you all anyone needs to know about sunni/shia distribution |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 08:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
83. I have read this also |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 08:57 AM Response to Reply #19 |
100. thanks to dimson, we are in this position of having to take sides in a regional war with multi- |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
24. Trying to beat the rush? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
29. Is their bankrolling of the Sunni factions in Iraq a problem? nt |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:32 AM Response to Reply #29 |
40. Yes, a BIG PROBLEM. If it leads to an all-out civil war with the Shi'a |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
31. He was UBL's case officer. Last time he resigned, 9/11 happened a week later |
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Efilroft Sul (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:44 AM Response to Reply #31 |
47. More here on Prince Turki |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:06 AM Response to Reply #47 |
58. Turki was Osama's "godfather". Until Khobar Towers, quite openly so. |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-13-06 10:29 AM Response to Reply #31 |
102. OPEN the ARCHIVES NOW!!! |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
44. Oh my.....interesting |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:47 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Obaid was Rummy's point of contact. Rummy's gone. Al-Turki's gone. Reason to hope? |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
48. He is the son of King Faisal |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:51 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. They're all Faisal's sons. Abdullah vs. his seven half-brothers. |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:30 AM Response to Reply #52 |
62. And that is tis the fear also.... |
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ms liberty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
50. K&R... |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:52 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. and when you have the chance, see Syriana |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:47 AM Response to Reply #50 |
63. my eyes are open |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
51. This almost looks like Saudis are ticked off |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:54 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Tha Saudis are divided. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 12:56 PM Response to Reply #51 |
71. The Saudi Royal Family belongs up against the wall |
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TheDebbieDee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 01:18 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. I agree......... |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
66. hmm, |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
69. Wait for theSaudis to kick them |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 01:14 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. It could also mean that the Saudis have decided to go with the Euro... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 02:02 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Bush and his goons have |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 04:07 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. I think you could be right about them going to the Euro |
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Prisoner_Number_Six (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
74. Sounds like a Syriana subplot. |
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Tight_rope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
79. Now this is some serious deep shit... |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
80. It all revolves around Cheney and how he survives at this |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:11 PM Response to Reply #80 |
91. Sunni-controlled oil trumps Shia-controlled oil, even assuming |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
82. Pre Pearl Harbor, the Imperial Japanese ambassador leaves DC. |
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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 08:33 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. link? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
86. see this aslo: |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 10:58 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. this one also |
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mia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-12-06 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
92. and it's all our fault |
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