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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 01:25 PM Original message |
Iraq: Italian TV alleges U.S. used chemical weapons in Fallujah |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. If this is true |
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. We used WP grenades in VietNam |
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Tempest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 04:46 PM Response to Reply #14 |
43. Vietnam was the reason behind the ban |
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cantstandbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 03:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
36. What are the chances of our own MSM investigating these allegations? |
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anotherdrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 12:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
64. using such weapons is way dis-proportional force |
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newscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
2. Does Berlusconi own RAI? |
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FightingIrish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 01:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. RAI is the state-owned network |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 02:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. He is KING OF ALL MEDIA over there, RAI excepted |
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Bob3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
3. Well let's just see how the apologists spin this one |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 04:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
45. Read about this quite awhile ago-it appears to be open season |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
4. Not the first time we've heard this |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 01:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. But probably the first time a large number of the non-internet |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 03:29 AM Response to Reply #4 |
75. but it keeps getting hushed up-over and over. |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 05:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
76. So was Giuliana Sgrena |
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NanceGreggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
5. Truly Appalling! |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 06:37 AM Response to Reply #5 |
80. They will bomb Syria |
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mark11727 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
6. I guess we finally found the WMDs --- and they're OURS. |
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bigluckyfeet (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
31. We are no longer America the Beautiful |
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Christa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
7. Bastards. nt. |
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cal04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
8. It's about time that someone shows what's really |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
9. Is there any way we can get a copy/link of this documentary? |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 01:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. video link here from a new italian member |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 01:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Excellent, thanks. n/t |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 02:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. thank the new member Ciao |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 02:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. Footage of white phosphorus at 18:10 -- must watch! |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 02:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. Fallujah assault delayed until after election: "We were told to wait" |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. I think this video is frightening and sobering. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 01:35 AM Response to Reply #15 |
70. Thanks for the link to new DU'er Cornelia's video. n/t |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 10:13 AM Response to Reply #15 |
91. I downloaded that last night... |
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psychopomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 01:07 AM Response to Reply #9 |
68. Link |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
10. Bush will have to shoot a few more Italian journalists, I guess. |
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PDJane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. The dreaded napalm ....... |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 07:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
56. Yes, I recall reading about that |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 09:31 AM Response to Reply #56 |
90. It is MK-77 aka: Mark77 |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
12. Who's using the WMD on who? |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
16. "Now we're all sons of bitches." |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
17. Reason #1,0054 |
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cassiepriam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
20. How is Bush any different than Saddam? |
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3waygeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 07:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
57. Saddam's the one with a moustache n/t |
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sabra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
21. kick for the truth! |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
22. The neocons would not allow such for such would be war crimes |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
27. Torture, Depleted Uranium tipped artillery, Napalm & Chem Weapons... |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
28. I was berated time and again last year for saying the US did this |
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anotherdrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 12:23 AM Response to Reply #28 |
65. not by me... there was enough evidence then to seriously consider this |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
29. This is not the first word of this. June DU thread on chemicals & napalm: |
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ninkasi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 03:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. Thanks for posting... |
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TexasLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
30. Melted Corpses |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 09:17 AM Response to Reply #30 |
89. Those are M77 cluster bombs in the background, not WP |
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Danieljay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
32. horrifying.... |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
34. If Congress wants to come out of its shell, this would be a good time |
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tuvor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
35. "FALLUJAH NAPALMED" from Sunday Mirror, November 28 2004 |
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frankly_fedup2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 03:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I remember seeing pictures of the little kids and babies with the |
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allemand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 03:57 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. These pictures are also on the website where you can watch the documentary |
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dutchdemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
40. US Lied to Britain Over Use of Napalm in Iraq War |
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electropop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
41. When a country uses WMDs, that's grounds to invade, right? |
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Stella_Artois (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
42. WP is a chemical weapon ? |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 04:47 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. An inciderary chemical weapon |
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Stella_Artois (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 05:23 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Its not a chemical weapon |
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occuserpens (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 12:03 AM Response to Reply #48 |
63. right |
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Stella_Artois (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 05:30 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Good call |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 11:29 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. The original Napalm & Agent Orange arguements. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 04:50 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. You're correct, of course. |
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Stella_Artois (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 05:18 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Totally agree |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 05:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. UN law state that it was against the "law", we are the only ones that |
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Stella_Artois (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 05:34 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Thanks, i was looking for that |
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peacebird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 06:48 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. did you go to look at the pictures? one shows a boy with blood pouring out |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 06:39 AM Response to Reply #51 |
81. Oh, that's OK then ... carry on! |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 05:42 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Could violate the Hague Conventions |
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allemand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 05:42 PM Response to Reply #42 |
52. Yes, according to the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 11:38 PM Response to Reply #42 |
61. The Hammer: Tool or Weapon? |
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Twist_U_Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
54. are you pissed off yet ? |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
58. When will some journo |
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callady (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-05 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
59. this has been known (and denied) for quite a while |
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occuserpens (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
62. Strictly speaking, napalm is not CW |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
66. See discussion on this at Dailykos. Not chemical weapon. |
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psychopomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
67. LINK TO VIDEO |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
69. i don't know how much more of this i can take |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 03:16 AM Response to Original message |
71. US forces 'used chemical weapons' during assault on city of Fallujah |
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texpatriot2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 03:16 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Whatever happened to "do unto others as you would have them |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 03:25 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. US soldier said "going to use white phosphorus on Fallujah" |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 03:29 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. "In military jargon it's known as Willy Pete." |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 05:27 AM Response to Original message |
77. BBC just posted this story has Breaking News |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 01:33 PM Response to Reply #77 |
103. "US military has denied the allegations as 'disinformation'..." |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 06:20 AM Response to Original message |
78. Not sure this is exactly correct. |
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allemand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 06:33 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. If it is only incendiary how do you explain that their clothes are intact? |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 06:43 AM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Shhh! Don't get logical or factual on them! |
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dutchdemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
83. I have the Italian documentary online now |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
84. US 'uses incendiary arms' in Iraq |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 08:27 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. yes, the US is trying to hide their war crimes... |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 08:27 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. My brother was in Fallujah |
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niallmac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 08:27 AM Response to Reply #84 |
87. I would like some journalist to explain the reporting situation |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
88. I had an argument with a soldier a while back about Bush. I told him Bush |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
92. US forces 'used chemical weapons' during assault on city of Fallujah |
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JetboyOne (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. The bastards |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. but then you wouldnt have that 'smell of burnt flesh in the morning' that |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Good for reporting it. The truth of Fallujah will appall |
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cal04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. BBC reporting it. Wonder if they will make a comment on this |
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passy (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. Link here to Italian documentary on Fallujah. |
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info being (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. Only targeted directly at the enemy of course, no collateral damage |
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maxsolomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #92 |
99. it pains me to say it, but |
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ninkasi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. I'm afraid you're right maxsolomon |
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meganmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #92 |
101. This made it onto the ABC news website |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 12:45 PM Response to Reply #92 |
102. Amy Goodman had a report on that |
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Khaotic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #92 |
104. Isn't This Freaking People Out? |
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dasmarian (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 10:15 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. yes, i agree |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-05 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
105. Here's the Dailykos discussion. Worth reading. |
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