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sabra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-05 10:30 PM Original message |
Poll: Katrina showed Canada U.S. poverty |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-05 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. Very interesting |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-05 10:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. The reason it's so startling to some Canadians |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 10:08 AM Response to Reply #2 |
17. Some of the poor urban areas shown in the footage |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 10:34 AM Response to Reply #17 |
62. Yep |
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Darth_Kitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 08:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
47. I wasn't surprised...... |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 11:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
55. wow |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-05 11:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Why would anyone expect a Bush led operation to be successful? |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-05 11:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Because any PM of ours |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 10:14 AM Response to Reply #1 |
18. I think it IS the media influence, as you said, TV, movies, etc. |
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StrafingMoose (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 03:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. I guess that's the same (ratio speaking) in Canada |
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Wrinkle_In_Time (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-05 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'm saddened... |
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Pierre Trudeau (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-05 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
4. it's not that we weren't aware of it |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 12:00 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. did you stop going to the US because of us? |
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Pierre Trudeau (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 12:13 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. actually it was the Abu Ghraib revelations |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 12:32 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. You know how close the last two elections were. |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 01:49 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. The country is NOT shifting to the right |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 09:44 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Oh, observations from people like Jimmy Carter etal |
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drummo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 06:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. Nixon was a dishonest thug |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 01:47 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. How sad. W at least acknowledged racial inequality |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 04:55 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Bush wasn't re-elected |
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catnhatnh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-05 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
5. Surprise, Surprise... |
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Robert Oak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 02:42 AM Response to Original message |
13. well, they are right |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 10:00 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. HI. People have been voting against their economic interests |
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Robert Oak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 03:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. don't ya know |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 05:38 PM Response to Reply #19 |
102. I remember Kerry making that error |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 06:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. absolutely! the most effective engine we had for escaping poverty... |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 06:48 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. There isn't any 'plot' |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 06:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I agree, there is no plot, it is much more simple than that |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 06:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. That doesn't happen either |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 07:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. reality: these "free market" schemes have harmed the working class |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 07:54 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Reality: there is no longer a 'working class' |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 07:58 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. I live among working class people |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 07:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Good for you |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 08:03 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. if they're the last generation, then the generations to follow... |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 08:11 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. There won't be 'generations to follow' |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 11:31 PM Response to Reply #40 |
56. "The Knowledge age doesn't have a working class" |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 11:38 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. A Knowledge age |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 04:08 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. so while robots do the handwork, and computers do the headwork... |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 11:14 AM Response to Reply #58 |
66. They will be knowledge workers |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 11:34 AM Response to Reply #66 |
76. I think that's a lot of hooey |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 11:37 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Well stop the world |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 11:55 AM Response to Reply #77 |
80. yeah, people used to laugh at the idea of robots replacing line workers... |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 12:41 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. Robots have replaced people |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 05:24 PM Response to Reply #85 |
96. why? cause they have no soul? |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 05:31 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. LOL yeah, that would be it |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 10:56 AM Response to Reply #57 |
65. That's ideological BS n/t |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 11:14 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Politics is ideological |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 10:46 AM Response to Reply #40 |
64. Actually, they do |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 11:16 AM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Being a doctor |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-05 09:48 AM Response to Reply #68 |
114. My point was |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 07:56 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. And fanatical adherence to the belief of the 'benign' corporations |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 07:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Economics should be mandatory |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 08:00 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. YOUR economics is just the promotion of YOUR interests |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 08:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Economics is a standard subject |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 04:25 AM Response to Reply #39 |
61. now here's where I start laughing... |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 11:17 AM Response to Reply #61 |
69. Then I gather |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 12:09 PM Response to Reply #69 |
82. I know enough about economics... |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 12:42 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Tell that to your banker |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 05:28 PM Response to Reply #86 |
97. I don't believe in buying on credit |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 05:33 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Then don't |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 06:01 PM Response to Reply #99 |
104. Ah! You're using the word "economics" to mean two different things... |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 08:35 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. It only has one meaning I'm afraid |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 08:12 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. Actually, I am well schooled in economics, the difference is my schooling |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 08:13 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Doubtful |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 08:15 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Therein lies your philosophy, or rather, lack of |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 08:16 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Numbers is numbers I'm afraid |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 08:25 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I have little doubt you subscribe to "Greed is good" as the antidote |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 08:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Marx died in 1883 |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 08:46 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Actually, I find the personal attacks less than endearing |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 08:52 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. You have confused |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 08:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. ROFL, just ROFL |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 08:58 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. ROFL all you want |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 04:14 AM Response to Reply #50 |
59. but your globalist fait accompli IS "going away" in Venezuela... |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 11:18 AM Response to Reply #59 |
70. That has nothing to do |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 11:24 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. sigh... |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 11:32 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Stay with me for a moment here |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 11:48 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. actually, strong protectionism built America into a world power |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 11:54 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Actually it caused the Depression |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 12:05 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. the world itself is a limited market |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 12:45 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. Guess we'll have to open markets on Mars then eh? |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 05:15 PM Response to Reply #87 |
93. ha! |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 05:21 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. No, didn't say that |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 05:33 PM Response to Reply #94 |
100. try new products! |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 08:37 PM Response to Reply #100 |
108. He says as he uses a computer |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 07:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. please -- people still need stuff, and stuff is still made in factories... |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 07:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Really? |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 07:57 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. ... and yes, I know that the actual buildings themselves were not moved... |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 07:58 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Who said they were?? |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 08:05 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. just anticipating your next snotty remark... |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 08:12 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Everything evolves...including economics |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 04:18 AM Response to Reply #41 |
60. ... except that pointing out the snotty tone of your commentary... |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 11:19 AM Response to Reply #60 |
71. Your feelings |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 12:25 PM Response to Reply #71 |
84. you aren't offering "straight forward commentary"... |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 12:46 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. I'm afraid it is |
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genieroze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 10:54 PM Response to Reply #38 |
53. Just do like I do, put em on ignore. |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-05 10:57 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Covering your ears is rarely useful |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 10:42 AM Response to Reply #54 |
63. You have a point, Maple |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 11:22 AM Response to Reply #63 |
72. Many people don't...that's true |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 12:16 PM Response to Reply #72 |
83. and it wouldn't matter if they had... |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 12:47 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. Mmmm yes |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 05:03 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. nuh-uh... |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 05:24 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. I work with it everyday |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 05:37 PM Response to Reply #95 |
101. nope -- I wanna hear it from your lips... |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 08:39 PM Response to Reply #101 |
109. LOL no you don't |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-05 09:51 AM Response to Reply #72 |
115. Guess we have a different notion of what constitutes labor |
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GayCanuck (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
74. We don't have quite |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 03:40 PM Response to Reply #74 |
91. welcome to DU!! |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
90. I know a Canadian couple, she was a contract nurse.... |
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IndyJones (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
103. Probably a dumb question/statement, but I assume Canada |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 08:40 PM Response to Reply #103 |
111. Poor? Yes, Canada has poor people |
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arikara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-05 01:51 PM Response to Reply #103 |
119. I will give you a more realistic answer |
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Lisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-05 02:27 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. and also, there are many aboriginal communities with high poverty rates |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-05 02:58 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. I agree |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-05 02:53 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. Call centres are not knowledge jobs |
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arikara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-05 12:46 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. I wanted to respond to this yesterday but Shaw quit on me |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
105. FEMA blocked evacuation aid and relief aid in New Orleans: Summary |
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TheDonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
106. If Toronto's Center City was flooded there would be a lot of poverty |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 08:42 PM Response to Reply #106 |
112. Except there is housing for them |
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greblc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
110. when will they feel sorry enough to let us move there. |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-05 08:42 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. If it was up to me.... |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-05 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
116. Theres an underbelly in small rural towns all over the US also |
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Tight_rope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-05 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
117. "54 percent, believe the government of Prime Minister Paul Martin ... |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-05 11:08 AM Response to Reply #117 |
118. My cat's government would have been more effective |
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