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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:20 AM
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'The whole damn city is under water' (water flowing the wrong way)



http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1558868,00.html

'The whole damn city is under water'

Thousands of New Orleans families ordered to flee devastating storm struggle back to find 10ft deep deluge

Jamie Wilson in New Orleans
Tuesday August 30, 2005
The Guardian

Families driven from New Orleans by the impending storm struggled to get back to their houses yesterday, only to find their way blocked by floodwaters covering much of the city's surrounding suburbs.

"It looks to me like the whole damn city is under water," one rescue worker told the Guardian, standing by a flooded freeway close to the city limits.

"That should be flowing the other way," said another, pointing to the 17th Street canal. New Orleans mayor Ray Nagin said there had been reports of more than 20 buildings collapsing in the city, while offshore at least two oil rigs were adrift in the Gulf of Mexico. The weather knocked out power to about 1.3 million people in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida, and analysts estimated the damage could top $26bn (£14.4bn)........
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:25 AM
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1. seems everyone is waiting for 'first light' to make any assessments.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:33 AM
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2. Yeah, almost no helicopters flying yesterday
Although I saw the Coast Guard (1 Dolphin and 1 HH-60) had 2 birds flying and one private copter did video footage.

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:54 AM
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3. Where are you?
I hope you're safe?

I just woke up and read that the 17th Street levee has been breached. It sounds really bad. They are evacuating Tulane Hospital?

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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 06:28 AM
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6. I'm fine. In Cali.
I've been watching video from WWL and WDSU in New Orleans on the 'net.

Here's a pic of where the levee broke:

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blackcatpgh Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 06:55 AM
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7. that is *horrible*
thanks for posting the photo; where did you find it?
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 06:58 AM
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9. WWL tv's website as a couple of pictures blogged
They are really sad.

My favorite spot in New Orleans is sunk. It is near where the Yacht club burned on the lakefront. It had an amazing view of the lake.

My alma mater is probably under also, but I haven't seen any clear pics of the Univ. of New Orleans.

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blackcatpgh Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:03 AM
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10. thanks
indeed, those photos are really sad. hopefully with daybreak, they are able to get those people out of there.
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rugger Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 06:00 AM
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4. No worries, insurance will let them rebuild...
Only to be washed away by the next one in about 10 years, 8 if global warming continues.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 06:05 AM
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5. If they have flood insurance.
It's not part of most policies & must be purchased separately.

But the insurance companies will lose a lot of money. So they will raise rates across the board.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:32 AM
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11. Lose money? Yes but insurance companies are supposed to factor in
such risks. The only money they will lose is when their models were not completely accurate.

In spite of that, insurance companies will use the damage as an excuse to increase rates, perhaps an excessive amount.
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mccoyn Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:52 AM
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12. Don't mortgage companies require flood insurance?
I thought if you were in a flood zone that mortgage companies require you to get flood insurance. I would think most of New Orleans is considered a flood zone.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:12 AM
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14. That's my understanding.
Heck, we had to pay a fee for someone to assess whether or not we lived in a flood zone when we refinanced, even though that had already been done when we bought the house six years earlier.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 06:57 AM
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8. That only applies to the very wealthy with homes on the beach...
...because nobody else can afford to pay for that kind of insurance.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:59 AM
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13. When I bought a house on the lake in Illinois, back in 1982
it cost me $3/month for flood insurance. Now I understand it runs more like $300/month. Why the huge increase??
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