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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 09:15 AM
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Noe's lawyer says Taft (R-Crook) knew about coin fund in 2001
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 09:26 AM by Algorem
http://www.cleveland.com/newsflash/cleveland/index.ssf?/base/news-19/1124454904232970.xml&storylist=cleveland


8/19/2005, 9:38 a.m. ET
The Associated Press

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — A prominent Republican fundraiser who invested state money in rare coins discussed the arrangement with Gov. Bob Taft in May 2001, contradicting the governor's assertion that he didn't learn of it until this year, the fundraiser's lawyer said.

Taft has claimed that until he read newspaper reports in April, he was unaware of Tom Noe's $50 million investment for the state insurance fund for injured workers.

"Tom Noe and Bob Taft had a face-to-face meeting in May 2001 in Toledo, at which time Mr. Noe described for Gov. Taft his operation of Coin Fund One for the (Ohio) Bureau of Workers' Compensation," Noe's lawyer, William Wilkinson, told The Columbus Dispatch for a story Friday...

Noe and Taft golfed together on May 13, 2001, in Toledo, records show. Noe received $25 million for the investment in 1998 and another $25 million two months after the golf outing...

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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 09:24 AM
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1. conservative Ohio Roundtable calls for Taft resignation
Web Site: http://www.ohioroundtable.org


Roundtable Calls for Governor Taft to Resign


CLEVELAND, Aug. 18 /PRNewswire/ -- Today the Ohio Roundtable called upon
Governor Bob Taft to resign from office. "As the first seated Governor since
1803 to be convicted of a crime in office, resignation is the only honorable
option left for Bob Taft," stated David Zanotti President, of the Ohio
Roundtable and the American Policy Roundtable.
The Roundtable sent the following text in a letter to Governor Taft
requesting his resignation:

August 18, 2005

Dear Governor Taft:...

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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 09:45 AM
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3. I hope he doesn't resign
If he resigns now it will all be "old news" by election time in November of next year. This needs to be kept in the people's face for the next year so they won't forget just how corrupt the Republican party truly is.
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magnetism Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 10:09 AM
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4. says he has more work to do....
I BET!
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 09:42 AM
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2. He is lying ......
.... no. :rofl:

he knew about the money lost in fall of 04 but withheld it until after
the election.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 10:13 AM
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5. UH OH. Do we have one Pub flipping on the other here?
I love it when that happens! It's the old, if I'm goin' down, you're commin' with me trick!
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evermind Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 10:29 AM
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6. This must be wrong.
Because as Taft said only yesterday, as he admitted state ethics violations, "There is no connection between golf or contributions and state contracts in our administration."

( http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1711228 )

Or was that some other Taft?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:36 AM
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15. Yeah, yeah...that's why 50 mill was invested in coins and beany babies and
Edited on Sat Aug-20-05 07:38 AM by mod mom
why Taft appointed Noe to the Board of Regent (prestigious board overseeing state colleges) but Noe hadn't even finished one year on college. No Mr. Taft, there was no connection. It was all done on merit. Keep digging your hole deeper, rethug. You screwed the people of Ohio now it is our time.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 10:22 AM
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24. For the record it was Voinovich who appointed Noe (who dropped out of
college after only two semesters) to the Ohio Board of Regents. Sorry I got my corrupt rethugs mixed up.

BTW don't be fooled by those tears on the senate floor during Bolton hearings, Voinovich is just another corrupt thug like the rest of them. Check out the scandals that have surrounded him.
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BQueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 06:03 PM
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28. Taft sat on stuff to help get Voinovich into Senate seat, too
remember the grand jury information he sat on when he (Taft) was running for Gov.? He knew that Voinovich had used campaign funds to pay his brother to hire some felon that Voinovich had promised a job to. Taft sat on the info (contrary to his job duties at the time) from early Sept until a couple days before the election, so that Fisher couldn't make any political hay of the scandal.

Voinovich also set the scene for the current BWC scandal by pushing for Gov's control of all matters BWC during his reign. (a friend worked for an outside agency that dealt with rehab and retraining at the time - George claimed that *they* were inefficient and the state would save money by converting it to an in-house agency -- right...)
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 11:00 AM
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7. of course - he only learned of it from the press
sound familiar
when the republicans get talking points they sure take them and pass them around
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:12 PM
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8. Oooooh. I LOVE it when the rats turn on each other
:)
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:19 PM
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9. Excellent Mr. Noe, got any scoop on Kenny Blackwell? They ARE planning to
make you and dear Bernadette as the fall guys.
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:35 PM
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10. If Noe ever makes it to court
a lot of Republicans are going down hard.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:20 AM
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11. Candidate says Taft should resign
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/112453041241860.xml&coll=2

Noe's attorney disputes governor's contention

Saturday, August 20, 2005
T.C. Brown and Sandy Theis
Plain Dealer Bureau

Columbus -- A would-be governor called on Friday for current Gov. Bob Taft to resign.

Democratic gubernatorial candidate and Columbus Mayor Michael Coleman said the preoccupation with the growing state investment scandal and Taft's tangled legal problems will continue to cripple state government, and he must go.

Coleman accepted Taft's apology Thursday for failing to disclose thousands of dollars in free golf games and other gifts. But Coleman changed his mind upon learning that an attorney for Tom Noe disputed Taft's statements that he was unaware until this year that Noe managed the $50 million rare-coin investment for the Ohio Bureau of Workers' Compensation.

"One side is saying one thing and the other side saying another," Coleman said. "That was the tipping point. It's not going to go away."...

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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:22 AM
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12. More calls go out for governor to resign
http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050820/NEWS24/50820003

By JAMES DREW and STEVE EDER
BLADE STAFF WRITERS

COLUMBUS — Calls for Gov. Bob Taft’s resignation intensified yesterday, a day after he was convicted and fined for violating the state’s ethics law.

Mr. Taft is standing firm in his pledge to finish the last 16 months of his second term, despite becoming Ohio’s first governor convicted on criminal charges.

Yesterday, Columbus Mayor Michael Coleman, a Democrat, joined a growing group of lawmakers and interest groups saying he should step down.

On Thursday, a judge found Mr. Taft guilty of four misdemeanors. Governor Taft was ordered to pay a $4,000 fine and apologize to all Ohioans for breaking the state’s ethics laws by failing to report the sources of dozens of golf outings, sports tickets, and meals on his financial disclosure statement.

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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:23 AM
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13. Oh, let him stay until the Coingate indictments start pouring down.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:38 AM
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16. That sounds better to me too.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:35 AM
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14. Taft decision helps both parties,a top Democratic consultant says.
http://www.cleveland.com/newsflash/cleveland/index.ssf?/base/news-19/112448280540840.xml&storylist=cleveland

8/19/2005, 5:24 p.m. ET
By JOHN McCARTHY
The Associated Press

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Gov. Bob Taft's decision to stay in office after his convictions on four misdemeanor ethics charges gives Democrats running statewide next year a chance to tie him to other Republicans, but it's a mistake to make him the focus of campaigns, a top Democratic consultant says.

The tactic could backfire if it becomes too personal, consultant James Ruvolo said Thursday after Taft pleaded no contest and was found guilty of failing to report 52 gifts worth nearly $6,000 that he received over four years.

Franklin County Municipal Judge Mark Froehlich fined Taft $4,000 and ordered him to apologize to Ohioans and, separately, to all state employees.

Taft says he won't resign because of the violations and leaders in the GOP-controlled Legislature say they will not initiate impeachment proceedings based on the ethics convictions...

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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:24 AM
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21. Moral of the story ...
Voters need to make sure that the legislative branch is controlled by the opposing party of the head of state. At least if a Republican is heading their state or country.
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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:07 PM
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29. Actually it is better for us if he stays in office
He has been neutered. Its like having no republican governor at all. The pubbies want him gone. They want to replace him with another of their own that could come in and do damage. I never thought I would say that I wanted Taft for governor, but right now I do.
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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 07:48 AM
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17. and the other candidate disagrees
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050820/NEWS24/50820003

U.S. Rep. Ted Strickland, a Democrat from southeast Ohio who also is seeking the party’s nomination for governor, said he is not calling for Mr. Taft’s resignation. Mr. Taft cannot run for re-election because of term limits.

“I believe if the governor steps aside, it would not solve the problem.
If we convey to the general public that the governor’s stepping aside solves the problem of a corrupt political system, we will have accomplished little,” Mr. Strickland said.


Asked for his reaction to Mr. Coleman’s call for Mr. Taft to resign, Mr. Strickland replied: “That is his opinion and his conclusion. “Based on what has already surfaced, I did not feel it is appropriate for the governor to step down. If additional damaging information were to surface, I would reserve the right to revisit that decision,” Mr. Strickland said.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:34 AM
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18. Taft's offenses reach impeachment level, Redfern believes
http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050819/NEWS24/508190372/-1/ARCHIVES30

Article published Friday, August 19, 2005

BLADE STAFF


Gov. Bob Taft's convictions on ethics charges are a matter for impeachment and could make his hold on power extremely fragile, state Rep. Chris Redfern (D., Catawba Island) said during a taping of The Editors television program yesterday.


"I think it does rise to the level of impeachment because the governor and those in elected office must be beyond reproach," said Mr. Redfern, the House Democratic leader.

The governor's tough stance on ethics violations by his staff in the past, and the fact he knowingly failed to fill out financial disclosure forms correctly, made his situation particularly untenable, even with members of his own party, Mr. Redfern said. "More than a dozen members of the Republican caucus have indicated to me over the last six months their disgust with the one-party rule and culture of corruption that exists in Columbus,'' he said.

Mr. Redfern stopped short of demanding Mr. Taft's resignation, but said, "I believe he has been mortally wounded and that his political leadership is at risk."...

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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:26 AM
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22. Another pussy
"Mr. Redfern stopped short of demanding Mr. Taft's resignation, but said, "I believe he has been mortally wounded and that his political leadership is at risk."..."
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:55 AM
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23. Beware of Redfern though, I read he is related to Brnadette Noe. nt
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 08:39 AM
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19. Firm with links to scandal fires attorney,hires Bush lawyer
http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050820/NEWS24/508200430/-1/ARCHIVES30

Article published Saturday, August 20, 2005

Firm with links to scandal fires attorney

BLADE COLUMBUS BUREAU


COLUMBUS - MDL Capital Management has fired celebrated New York City attorney Barry Slotnick, who was defending the Pittsburgh-based investment adviser in Ohio's lawsuit to recover $215 million lost in a Bermuda hedge fund.


Eric Kuwana, a partner at the Washington firm of Patton Boggs, confirmed that he replaced Mr. Slotnick, who attracted national attention for his defense of subway vigilante Bernie Goetz during the 1980s.

Although Mr. Kuwana lacks his predecessor's celebrity, he is well connected politically, having served as deputy general counsel of the 2001 Presidential Inaugural Committee for President Bush and as a White House attorney during the George H.W. Bush administration.

Mr. Kuwana distanced himself from politics yesterday, emphasizing that MDL was unfairly lumped with the $50 million rare-coin funds managed by Tom Noe, a former friend of recently convicted Gov. Bob Taft, simply because both investments were for the Ohio Bureau of Workers' Compensation...

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 09:02 AM
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20. Spill the beans! Set some precedent! Maybe Abramoff will follow suit!
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 10:48 AM
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25. Holy Crap! This means the White House is terrified!
They want in on the discovery of this deal or they are trying to kill any prosecution of this case.

Wowie, wow, wow!!!!!

This is getting good!
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bnr65432 Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 11:10 AM
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26. the republicans get what they deserve
this scanal just keeps growing
might even reach the federal level
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:14 PM
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27. May I say: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! BWAHAHAHAHAAHA!
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