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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:31 PM Original message |
Judge rejects Englands Guilty plea CNN right now |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. Mistrial declaired by judge |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. means her plea was also thrown out. |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
2. Link |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. thanks for the link |
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dolo amber (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. ... |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. You may |
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Don Claybrook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
37. Please be more specific |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. because of the "she was oxygen deprived BS?" |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. her superior (already in jail) said pics had leg. usage was the reason |
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funkybutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. If she really was oxygen deprived, |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. If she was oxygen deprived, then she's retarded? The US Military takes in |
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funkybutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. Maybe you're being sarcastic |
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democracyindanger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. Did she know right from wrong? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:01 PM Response to Reply #42 |
54. Amen! |
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FourStarDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:00 PM Response to Reply #54 |
135. True, but how did masks, hoods, leashes and other torture paraphanalia |
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funkybutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:08 PM Response to Reply #42 |
62. I didn't say that she didn't know right from wrong |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
78. "Killing is wrong." "Go kill." |
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democracyindanger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #78 |
94. Thanks for making it clear |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:35 PM Response to Reply #94 |
113. TahitiNut can definitely speak for himself, but you do YOURSELF no |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 04:05 PM Response to Reply #113 |
123. You speak the truth |
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democracyindanger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 04:29 PM Response to Reply #113 |
127. You know what's really annoying? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 06:55 PM Response to Reply #127 |
134. (Back after power failure.) Eloriel's response is excellent.. |
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democracyindanger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:10 PM Response to Reply #134 |
138. Ya know, |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 10:32 PM Response to Reply #138 |
181. "Mixed messages" is EXACTLY the point. |
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democracyindanger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 11:21 PM Response to Reply #181 |
183. Okay, now we're getting somewhere |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 11:56 PM Response to Reply #183 |
186. I definitely said "at the risk of oversimplifying" for a reason. |
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democracyindanger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:19 AM Response to Reply #186 |
189. I think |
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Carni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:31 PM Response to Reply #127 |
140. JMO But this all just proves that the bush culture rewards stupidity |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:36 PM Response to Reply #113 |
141. Thank you. TN is ANYTHING but a torture apologist. |
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democracyindanger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 10:09 PM Response to Reply #141 |
180. You're right |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 11:17 PM Response to Reply #180 |
182. Blah, blah, blah. You obviously misunderstood TN. |
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democracyindanger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 11:25 PM Response to Reply #182 |
184. And yet, you reply. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:09 AM Response to Reply #184 |
187. Zhade is generously (to me) making the point that ... |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:47 PM Response to Reply #78 |
120. Beautiful post. nt |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:51 PM Response to Reply #42 |
93. We're Not Apologizing.... |
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jayctravis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
98. Right. |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 04:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
122. Yes the US military does take in mentally unstable and impaired people. |
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halobeam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 04:38 PM Response to Reply #21 |
130. BTW... the recruits take in mentally ill and drug abusers now too |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:38 PM Original message |
It is; to accept all these war lies, DeLay, Bush**, the theocracy that is |
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SGBL (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
24. I would suggest you go talk to a medical doctor |
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grytpype (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
35. No, the judge said she might not be guilty. |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
58. Good thing she wasn't in Texas.... |
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Charles19 (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
85. Because the judge knows they were trying to get |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
6. Good |
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funkybutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
7. So they can force her to plead innocent? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. this could and I mean could destroy the myth of a few bad apples |
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Charles19 (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
87. In military court the judge can change the plea if he thinks |
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FourStarDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
137. Maybe the judge senses that she's being coerced. That there's a |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
10. I say good |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:36 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. they're too busy flying jets and fighting bad guys in JAG |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. let you imagination run--give us a few hints. |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
40. no more JAG |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
70. I wish |
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OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
101. Just keep this in mind: |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 04:09 PM Response to Reply #101 |
125. I'm with you! "You can't have a one person conspiracy" |
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LibertyorDeath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 09:45 PM Response to Reply #101 |
179. Can you imagine |
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mac56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
12. But..but..wouldn't this make him an "activist judge"?! |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. I just betcha the brass is shaking right now (unless they quick get it |
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harpo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
17. repukes will label the judge as "liberal" |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. that is an oxymoran-- a liberal military judge. (it was a mil. judge |
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qazplm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
84. what a silly statement |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:11 PM Original message |
Or even worse, a Constitutionalist |
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OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
102. No, the Nazis just exterminated people |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 04:06 PM Response to Reply #102 |
124. and what exactly did the Iraqis do to deserve what happening to them? |
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OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 04:32 PM Response to Reply #124 |
128. THAT, I agree with |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-05 03:25 AM Response to Reply #128 |
232. Somehow it does to me |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
18. Wow, could this mean a trial where evidence of the 'higher-ups' |
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erichzann (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. No. It means that no one will be held responsible. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. i do not agree with you--I think this is an opportunity for it to go |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
47. Her buddy grainer |
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BornaDem (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #47 |
71. "Her buddy Graner" screwed her TWICE... |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 04:25 PM Response to Reply #71 |
126. I agree that Graner was trying to take her down |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #47 |
72. Once In the Military, All Your Constitutional Rights Go Bye-Bye |
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erichzann (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
55. I'm not suprised that you don't agree. |
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ewagner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
68. I'm in agreement |
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burn the bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #30 |
97. I hope so. Let's face it., she should be punished. But she is the least |
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tk2kewl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
19. Veeeery interseting.... |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
22. Darned activist military judges CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! |
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fob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. Aha, mistrial. Now I see why Lynndie's attorney let this guy testify |
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BornaDem (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:29 PM Response to Reply #32 |
80. So do I... |
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OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:15 PM Response to Reply #80 |
103. How are you coming up with this stuff? |
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qazplm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. no its not necessarily |
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OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. I don't disagree with your assessment |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
23. A Pentagon Nightmare: If England Walks, That Means She Can Also Talk! |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. "You can't have a one-person conspiracy," the judge said |
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mohinoaklawnillinois (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:44 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. The key to me is this: |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:47 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. If she had anything damning |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:40 PM Response to Reply #39 |
118. To the contrary- |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 04:03 PM Response to Reply #118 |
226. He's lost alot of credibility |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:08 PM Response to Reply #23 |
63. yabba dabba doooooo lets hope you are RIGHT |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:49 PM Response to Reply #63 |
121. Today was a very bad day for the White House & Pentagon |
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spunky (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
26. Bizarre. Almost as if they are trying to work it out so that Graner |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. they had a falling out from what I have heard--in fact--the artist was |
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spunky (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:50 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. hmm. Didn't know that. I still think she will walk. n/t |
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BornaDem (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
83. If this is true... |
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erichzann (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
29. I don't believe anything good comes from this. |
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Boneman (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
34. What will happen now. Is it likely the Army will drop the case.?If I were |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. I will have to find "don't forget the horn" comment by England re: Graner |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #38 |
50. Go to CNN.com. It's there. n/t |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:00 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. thanks, i will |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. well, everyone was very surprized when the judge stopped the trial-this |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:56 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. It appears as if many of the admin's "slam dunks" are being... |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
44. Well then, she's screwed. |
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spunky (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Don't they have the option not to retry her? This may be very good for |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Cnn was rattling off about 5 possible future actions--but no one knows |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:01 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. Sure they have that option... |
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spunky (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #53 |
64. I might have agreed before today, but look how they are setting it up |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:11 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Watch it happen, then. |
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spunky (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. We'll see. Maybe I'm wrong. I just think something stinks. Why wasn't |
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BornaDem (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:45 PM Response to Reply #66 |
92. I should have guessed - another lawyer? |
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qazplm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
88. no it doesnt |
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BornaDem (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:40 PM Response to Reply #44 |
89. Glad somebody else has figured out what... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
45. Deleted message |
rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 01:56 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. judge says "England may not have known what she was doing was wrong." |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. Here is England's 'don't for the horn's" comment about Graner |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:35 PM Response to Reply #60 |
86. Does that mean she sees him as EVIL or HORNY? |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. Weird... |
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OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:18 PM Response to Reply #59 |
105. I've never had a guilty client |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:36 PM Response to Reply #105 |
114. I've had TONS of guilty clients. |
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OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #114 |
129. You're tougher than I am |
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AliB (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
56. "You can't have a one-person conspiracy" |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. if the media gets on this story we have a chance of it going higher. |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:11 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. Welcome to DU, AliB! And I hope very much that the high-ranking |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
57. The army has ALREADY cleared the higher-ranking officers: |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #57 |
74. For which one's exactly? it looks there has to be thousands of cases |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:27 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. And then there's the routine kidnapping and torture by the CIA: |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:21 PM Response to Reply #57 |
76. but that was an internal investigation--not a trial--they could be tried |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:28 PM Response to Reply #76 |
139. DING DING DING! Rodeodance, you're our grand prize winner! |
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UCLA Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
67. whoa big news. must have been because of that other guy's testimony. |
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Chicago Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
69. Hurrah! Justice for once....No way is she guilty of anything. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. this thread should be nominated |
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democracyindanger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:58 PM Response to Reply #69 |
95. Yay! Invalidate the sentences of the SS camp guards! |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:05 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. The bosses of the SS guards were tried at Nuremberg.... |
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democracyindanger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:09 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Yeah, I know that |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:24 PM Response to Reply #100 |
110. LOL |
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Chicago Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 06:42 PM Response to Reply #99 |
133. Comparison of Abu Garaib to SS Guards at Nazi Death Camps |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
77. It's so obvious this crap came from higher ups |
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JRob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
81. The smoking gun is out there... |
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noonwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
82. I give credit to the judge for not rubber-stamping the plea bargain |
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qazplm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:43 PM Response to Reply #82 |
91. this isnt what everyone is making it... |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
90. You mean the Corny News Network |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
96. Judges don't find waffling on guilt in a plea deal amusing. |
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funkybutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #96 |
119. Are you assuming this was the intention of the Defense? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
104. Deleted message |
Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
107. If she was doing as told by her bosses |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. It's not a crime to refuse an illegal order in the military |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. people get courtmartialed |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
112. Justice must be served |
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Firenze777 (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
115. L. England's Guilty Plea Rejected |
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LuckyTheDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:38 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Let's hope |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 03:38 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. duplicate thread |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 04:42 PM Response to Reply #117 |
131. she is the 'poster child" of this abuse scandel and it will not die-but |
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FourStarDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:02 PM Response to Reply #115 |
136. Love it. Put Gonzalez & Rummy on trial |
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brettdale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
132. Huh??? |
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goodboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
142. Mistrial declared in Lynndie England Case BREAKING |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:58 PM Response to Reply #142 |
143. Dallas news... |
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goodboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:58 PM Response to Reply #142 |
144. "she was unware that she was committing a crime?" Look, I agree |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:58 PM Response to Reply #144 |
145. Have you ever broken a law? If you have, then aren't you also a dumbass? |
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goodboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:58 PM Response to Reply #145 |
147. Yeah, only I knew when I was breaking the law, I was breaking the law |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 06:42 AM Response to Reply #147 |
190. Was your answer "I am a dumbass just like Pvt. England"? n/t |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:58 PM Response to Reply #144 |
146. This is one of two things: |
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mhr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #146 |
148. Let's Hope It Is Number Two |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #148 |
160. #2 |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #146 |
150. Well For Your Information |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #146 |
151. or, he feels sorry for her |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #146 |
152. Option Three |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #152 |
161. #3 better yet... do we have a number 4 |
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Sanity Claws (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #146 |
163. It's number two |
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SlavesandBulldozers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #146 |
166. uh #2's a little reality based. |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #144 |
153. she was stupid but could she not have well thought she was ... |
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goodboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #153 |
156. anything's possible, I guess. Did she say in her testimony whether |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #156 |
159. it's too surreal to contemplate ... |
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goodboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #159 |
164. Not to |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 09:07 PM Response to Reply #164 |
178. I don't know ... |
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FourStarDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #144 |
167. she would be "unaware" if she believed she was following military orders |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #144 |
177. I'm defending England, but I take it |
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Joey Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #142 |
149. Until they prosecute a commissioned officer, its all a sham |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #149 |
154. As a former NCO |
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goodboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #154 |
165. "the bravest of the Abu Ghraib incident..." |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #149 |
162. I'll call this #5 BEST OF BEST so far! |
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SlavesandBulldozers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #149 |
169. excellent point |
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oneighty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #142 |
155. I am sorry for her |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #155 |
170. That's just it - while she may have known the treatment of the |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:16 AM Response to Reply #155 |
188. of course you are |
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oneighty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:37 AM Response to Reply #188 |
191. I spent many years in the service |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #191 |
222. so have i |
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oneighty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 02:57 PM Response to Reply #222 |
223. I know I had military service. |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 03:17 PM Response to Reply #223 |
224. then why did you contradict your self? |
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oneighty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 03:41 PM Response to Reply #224 |
225. Do you have an agenda? |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 05:54 PM Response to Reply #225 |
227. lol - now i have an agenda... |
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oneighty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 06:05 PM Response to Reply #227 |
228. Boy I really do not understand your ramblings. |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 06:21 PM Response to Reply #228 |
229. insulting, cop outs |
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oneighty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 06:23 PM Response to Reply #229 |
230. Peace unto you too |
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sr_pacifica (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #142 |
157. Graner deliberately threw a spanner in the works |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #142 |
158. Who are those stupid lawyers who are hanging around her? |
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SlavesandBulldozers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #158 |
171. i suppose the judge has the highest responsibility |
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Gyre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #142 |
168. You do NOT need to be aware that you are breaking the law |
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SlavesandBulldozers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #168 |
173. isn't there a whole different set of laws for the military though? |
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Sgent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #168 |
174. You do neeed |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #142 |
172. So she didn't know that |
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goodboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #172 |
175. my sentiments exactly. I realize she's a scapegoat, and I would |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #175 |
176. She probably knew that it wasn't really a very good thing to be doing, |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 11:26 PM Response to Reply #172 |
185. The Psycho Freeprs Think She Should Get A MEDAL.... |
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smiley (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
192. Judge Throws Out England's Guilty Plea |
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JohnnyRingo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:57 AM Response to Reply #192 |
193. Indeed....The military judge told her she can't plead not guilty |
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smiley (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:57 AM Response to Reply #193 |
195. And that could be the plan. |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:57 AM Response to Reply #195 |
198. She is not pregnant |
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smiley (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #198 |
202. since when? |
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charlyvi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #202 |
208. She already had the baby. n/t |
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smiley (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #208 |
211. momentary lapse of memory |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:57 AM Response to Reply #192 |
194. Excuse me, no honorable soldier would be pictured |
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smiley (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:57 AM Response to Reply #194 |
196. Retarded? |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:57 AM Response to Reply #196 |
200. On Tube-News Today - Yes... |
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kaflinn (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #200 |
219. Really? Bullshit. |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #196 |
203. Yes, Oxygen-deprived at birth |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #203 |
209. You're a Genius, Erika! |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #209 |
217. True AuntiBush |
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smiley (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #217 |
218. yet has nothing to do w/ the Abu Graib.. |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:57 AM Response to Reply #194 |
197. And to think, this is the type of kids they're giving guns too |
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smiley (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:57 AM Response to Reply #194 |
199. And how do you describe Graner... |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:57 AM Response to Reply #199 |
201. And you are? |
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smiley (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #201 |
204. human |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #199 |
205. It is not important how I describe them |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #205 |
207. Erika is Exactly Right! Facts from Court Reports! |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #207 |
212. Thanks |
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smiley (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #212 |
214. What does that have to do w/ anything. |
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smiley (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #205 |
213. Does that really mean anything in militay court? |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #199 |
206. Here ya go. |
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smiley (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #206 |
210. only retarded people could be so cruel. |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #210 |
215. Her superior officer said she did what she did under orders |
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smiley (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #215 |
216. forgot to mention the sarcasm. |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #194 |
220. She is typical of the "cream" recruited and skimmed by todays military |
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fleabert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:58 AM Response to Reply #192 |
221. big ugly thread last night about her... |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 06:28 PM Response to Reply #221 |
231. all tortures need to be held to account if we hope to STOP this HORROR |
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