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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 04:01 PM
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The ACLU on Obama and core liberties
http://politics.salon.com/2011/09/07/liberties_3/singleton/

The ACLU on Obama and core liberties
By Glenn Greenwald, Salon

The ACLU decided to use the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attack to comprehensively survey the severe erosion of civil liberties justified in the name of that event, an erosion that — as it documents — continues unabated, indeed often in accelerated form, under the Obama administration. The group today is issuing a report entitled A Call to Courage: Reclaiming Our Liberties Ten Years After 9/11; that title is intended to underscore the irony that political leaders who prance around as courageous warriors against Terrorism in fact rely on one primary weapon — fear-mongering: the absence of courage — to vest the government with ever-more power and the citizenry with ever-fewer rights. Domestically, the “War on Terror” has been, and continues to be, a war on basic political liberties more than it is anything else. The particulars identified in this new ACLU report will not be even remotely new to any readers here, but given the organization’s status among progressives as the preeminent rights-defending group in the country, and given the bird’s-eye-view the report takes of these issues, it is well worth highlighting some of its key findings.

Let’s begin with the ACLU’s summary assessment of what President Obama has done with regard to these matters:

Last week, the top lawyer and 34-year-veteran of the CIA, John Rizzo, explained to PBS’ Frontline that Obama has “changed virtually nothing” from Bush policies in these areas, and this week, the ACLU explains that “most policies remain core elements of our national security strategy today.“ At some point very soon, this basic truth will be impossible to deny with a straight face even for the most hardened loyalists of both parties, each of whom have been eager, for their own reasons, to deny it (and even the two differences cited there, though positive, are wildly exaggerated by Obama defenders: the torture techniques authorized by Bush were no longer in use and the CIA black sites were empty by the time Obama was inaugurated; by contrast, there is ample evidence that the Obama administration continues to use torture by proxy and rendition/CIA-black-sites by proxy as well).

The ACLU then highlights one of the most perverse though revealing ironies of Democratic Party opinion on civil liberties in the Obama age: the way in which Bush’s attempt merely to imprison a U.S. citizen without due process (or merely to eavesdrop on citizens) prompted such outrage, while Obama’s claimed right to assassinate U.S. citizens without due process provokes virtually no protest:

(more at link, including direct link to ACLU report)
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 04:09 PM
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1. K&R
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 04:25 PM
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 04:27 PM
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 04:34 PM
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4. More on the Obama administration
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 04:46 PM
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5. The ACLU then highlights one of the most perverse though revealing ironies
The ACLU then highlights one of the most perverse though revealing ironies of Democratic Party opinion on civil liberties in the Obama age
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 06:15 PM
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7. Yup.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 04:49 PM
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6. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, woo me with science.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 06:21 PM
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8. Knr for civil liberties
Thanks for the info!
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 06:30 PM
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9. Not the mountain of change we were expecting. A few policy reversals here and there, that's it.
We truly live in mediocre times.
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