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In reply to the discussion: I use to believe/think that men could be feminists [View all]Response to seabeyond (Reply #266)
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exactly BB. it is the last year of listening to men tell me what i am suppose to think, feel and
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#1
Isn't the word "meninist" what men who support feminism call themselves now?
Little Star
Jan 2013
#2
It doesn't sound that way to me. I felt it was preceptive and a clever way to...
Little Star
Jan 2013
#285
I saw that early this morning, cringed, thought about responding, then lost the thread...
hlthe2b
Jan 2013
#38
If a sizeable number of feminists prefer the term male ally, why is that a big deal?
redqueen
Jan 2013
#8
really? i think a lot of women as speaking out on the issues, expressing themselves well. i do not
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#36
"what basis do you have to say anything about it?" a womans movement and we are women, hear us roar?
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#9
you are right, we may not be being fair and you may not have an understanding because
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#22
"that means shuttin the fuck up, listening to what they say, respecting them...
redqueen
Jan 2013
#28
offhand i can't think of a term for a pro-black black or a pro-homosexual homosexual
unblock
Jan 2013
#53
i have already told you why as have others. as i said to another poster, .... i will not roll my
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#58
No they can't because they are not women. They can be supportive though....
Little Star
Jan 2013
#15
and i think another thing a man has to be honest about, and some women also. are they feminists?
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#24
how does terminology help? now you can object to male jerks calling themselves "feminist allies".
unblock
Jan 2013
#29
what is a man being excluded from but the title of woman. he is not excluded from the cause
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#40
you need the title? why? yes, men are excluded from being a woman. that is an issue for you?
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#45
imo, wrong. it is a WOMAN movement. it is not about man/woman. it is ALL about women.
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#59
do you get that all of a sudden the feminist moved from womens rights to ALL peoples rights?
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#60
I'm not. I'm asking why converting feminist to a discriminatory term is necessary to do so. (nt)
jeff47
Jan 2013
#141
No one is excluding you. We welcome you as an ally. Thank you for being an ally!
boston bean
Jan 2013
#44
"I'm not in any position to dictate terminology or anything." correct. you are not in the position
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#48
No, what's bothering me is we're repeating the same problems we caused by having men and women
jeff47
Jan 2013
#52
i do not agree. and i am sorry that this is your perception. what i have found is in order to
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#57
So you would rather make baseless personal claims than engage in a discussion about the topic?
NoOneMan
Jan 2013
#103
no. not only trolls. men. that mean well. that support womens rights, and think
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#224
And they gave themselves different names to indicate they aren't liberals. (nt)
jeff47
Jan 2013
#270
it is the men that i have experience that claim to be feminist. i do not "let" them do shit. and i
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#263
not a tough one. none of us in here really give a shit. MEN keep starting OPs claiming
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#278
oh it's a mix with trolls in there, but sometimes it's hard to tell. mostly it's guys who have a
bettyellen
Jan 2013
#238
the chuckle is, it shows how instilled in patriarchy we are, and exactly what the issue is about
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#249
The longer you are actively involved with feminism, the more glaringly obvious it is.
redqueen
Jan 2013
#255
then divisive we stand. does that mean you will not support womens rights? nt
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#64
no fuckin way. lol. if men are not a part of the womans movement then women are being sexist.
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#63
"even those who are anatomically unsatisfying to you." tell man what he doesnt want to hear, and he
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#68
Listen, it is sexist for a man to believe he knows what is best for the wimmin folk.
boston bean
Jan 2013
#126
the problem is you want this to be about men. it is NOT. it isnt about you. nothing to do with
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#129
Are women who don't want you to tell them what to focus on, protest, talk about, etc.....
Swamp Lover
Jan 2013
#85
that is a very huge issue and topic. and i would imagine that if we women addressed it seriously,
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#86
Ah, thats right. Penis-havers aren't allowed to add their voices to any feminist issue
NoOneMan
Jan 2013
#90
except no one has said that. opposite of what you state. why ignore what is being said to make
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#92
cooking dinner right now and then as a family we will sit together and enjoy each others company.
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#91
Oh, so excluding penis-havers is a very important issue to the feminists movement?
NoOneMan
Jan 2013
#96
How is that a straw man? My biological features, or my chromosonal arrangement exclude me...
NoOneMan
Jan 2013
#100
yes. it excludes you from having an understanding of a womans experience. why is that hard? or
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#104
do you believe and repel the patriarchy, the white male privilege. simple question.
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#118
in other words, he doesn't really see that women alone have issues to fight for.
boston bean
Jan 2013
#164
yes. what i have help shown me that men are not feminist. the movement gets turned to ALL people
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#169
Please don't tell me what I am here to do based on random, self-affirming guessing
NoOneMan
Jan 2013
#109
and that would be the obvious in our face that men pretend is not happening. and we are suppose to
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#119
so, we are not acting nice enough, feminine enough, to gain your agreement with us wimminz.
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#136
i betcha hysterical and emotional also. but, when yo absolutely do not listen to what is being said
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#142
because you cannot have ownership of the womens movement it places you in 2nd class status?
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#123
do you not have wives, daughters, mothers, sisters, nieces and friends? that is not enough skin in
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#209
" not rely on male support" we have said repeatedly we need mens support. so i ask, why pretend
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#266
so, regardless of what the woman says, you will ignore them and interpret it to your advantage,
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#268
who are you jack? which of the 4 or 5 misogynist just kicked off are you? nt
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#275
anyone who says this.... never was "focusing their energies" on feminism, LOL.
bettyellen
Jan 2013
#241
actually you don't. you keep claiming Sea and I both said that we did not, so dishonest of you.
bettyellen
Jan 2013
#286
my GOD don, that is so fuckin' easy. and so right on and true. and the men that pretend this is
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#133
let me be really clear, and even agressive in saying this to the men in this forum. the feminist
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#127
it is because you refuse to see or listen to the womens opinion on a womans movement and ONLY look
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#153
again... women have time and time again, explained in this thread the issue we deal with and
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#160
yes. coddle mens ego. and sometime we can DISCUSS this. and yes, my boys not only understand
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#176
The problem with that statement, is that being the President is a formal title.
Dash87
Jan 2013
#214
why cant women OWN, yes, i mean OWN the womens movement. is it too much to demand. not
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#183
What about men who think that only women should decide women's issues?
liberal N proud
Jan 2013
#185
again, when talking about black or gay issues, do you inject knowing better as a white or hetero?
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#188
Well I will tell you this and I know it may get some upset. I think feminists helped
southernyankeebelle
Jan 2013
#203
Yes your right that there are lots of different ways to see the world. I guess people see it from
southernyankeebelle
Jan 2013
#242
Excuse me but who died and left you queen bee? I was just making a comment. Get over it.
southernyankeebelle
Jan 2013
#243
That is one reason I hate getting on these threads. People get so out of shape if you
southernyankeebelle
Jan 2013
#257
Especially when you make a comment with the intent of getting people out of shape.
JTFrog
Jan 2013
#261
I find the concept of men demanding to be recognized as a feminist by women... interesting.
Dash87
Jan 2013
#204
women have been enduring sexism/misogyny forever. how cavalierly you throw it back at women,
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#215
really? rationalist? like that is not fuckin' in our face obvious? geeez. fail. nt
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#226
good for you. then, being the feminist you will have also understand that there are MANY different
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#282
thanks, and yes, one can't essentialize a large and diverse group of humans. nt
Deep13
Jan 2013
#283