2016 Postmortem

uponit7771

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28. But it sounds like there's support for their redemption... just not Hillary's?! Regardless of who's

Reply to dreamnightwind (Reply #24)

Tue Dec 29, 2015, 03:24 AM

Dec 2015

... going to be president they're all human... including Hillary right?

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Do you believe that people can change, grow, learn, be enlightened, transformed, [View all] Uncle Joe Dec 2015 OP

En Masse and in about 30 days? No. Sheepshank Dec 2015 #1

Trump; believes Bernie can and it's being reflected in his actions. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #4

I don't listen to Trumps platform ideas any more Sheepshank Dec 2015 #9

It has everything to do with the corporate media, and the power of their propaganda Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #20

You just completely disgregarded Uncle Joe's point because you have a closed mind. cui bono Dec 2015 #34

And if we can't reach all of them.... daleanime Dec 2015 #7

No, of course you should bother. Sheepshank Dec 2015 #11

It isn't just D.U. it's all across the Internet; the platform of democracy. n/t Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #23

i realize you are in earnest. Sheepshank Dec 2015 #56

I think Bernie is absolutely clueless on this one AllTooEasy Dec 2015 #57

Years of indoctrination... LWolf Dec 2015 #80

Of course this is anecdotal, but I have done it tech3149 Dec 2015 #108

I am a Bernie Supporter. However I don't think we are smart enough Katashi_itto Dec 2015 #2

I don't believe in 2naSalit Dec 2015 #3

Semantics? demwing Dec 2015 #68

They're not under anyone's spell RandySF Dec 2015 #5

Trump is MISDIRECTING and magnifying their righteous anger with a great assist Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #10

Gothca RandySF Dec 2015 #13

I respect your perspective, RandySF but I wouldn't care if Hillary stated Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #19

Exactly. And that's why him speaking at (was it Liberty University?) was so great. cui bono Dec 2015 #36

I'm going to bed, thanks for your input Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #52

Sweet dreams Uncle Joe... cui bono Dec 2015 #58

Thanks for the post! tecelote Dec 2015 #64

Thank you, absolutely correct dreamnightwind Dec 2015 #16

Thank you, dreamnightwind. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #87

Yes, you have to start somewhere if you are going to affect change ... slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #6

I do believe Bernie rocked their world with that speech. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #14

I think he did as well, it is so comfortable to stay in your own world, but if you want change ... slipslidingaway Dec 2015 #42

Uh, no. NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #8

Is it? Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #12

Perfect response! dreamnightwind Dec 2015 #17

Last time I looked ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #22

You don't have to be religious which by the way I'm not, to observe pieces of wisdom from Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #26

Just being honest here. NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #29

Honestly, you're just being petty and semantic. cui bono Dec 2015 #39

It's a phrase that has meaning and inherent wisdom, you brought up an objection to my OP Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #45

My choice for president ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #54

So what cult is it that you believe Uncle Joe to be in? Or is it Sanders that's in the cult? cui bono Dec 2015 #59

Yeah, we wouldn't want Hillary to b connected to secretive, fundamentalist, Christian groups trying bvar22 Dec 2015 #82

+1 cui bono Dec 2015 #83

Are you announcing new policy with your subject line, or just emphasizing? DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2015 #107

Well played! Speaking of cults there's also Hillary's long time association with the Family... beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #65

Very nicely done. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2015 #106

Yes, Hillary has done so plenty of times for many issues and therefore is going to be a great ... uponit7771 Dec 2015 #15

No dreamnightwind Dec 2015 #18

So redemption for everyone else who's been a consistent human supremacist like a MOST of Trumps uponit7771 Dec 2015 #21

I'm not supporting them for president dreamnightwind Dec 2015 #24

But it sounds like there's support for their redemption... just not Hillary's?! Regardless of who's uponit7771 Dec 2015 #28

OK, I will welcome Hillary's vote for Bernie dreamnightwind Dec 2015 #30

If she's redeemed why would she support Sanders? uponit7771 Dec 2015 #33

She can vote for whoever she wants dreamnightwind Dec 2015 #46

No one is asking anyone to vote for Trump or his supporters for President and no one Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #31

If Hillary is redeemable, like Trump supporters are, there's no need for SBS folk to demonize her uponit7771 Dec 2015 #35

Can't people disagree/criticize with her policies? That's what picking a candidate is about. cui bono Dec 2015 #41

Precisely, cui bono. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #47

I support Hillary's redemption PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #38

Then SBS folk should stop demonizing her then, regardless of who people vote for president if uponit7771 Dec 2015 #40

I can not speak for others PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #44

The possibility of redemption is not the guarantee of redemption demwing Dec 2015 #70

Appealing to as wide a segment of potential voters as possible TwilightGardener Dec 2015 #25

Reagan certainly didn't have any problem going after Democrats and although we don't agree with Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #27

Reagan didn't create the Southern strategy, Nixon did. ucrdem Dec 2015 #32

+1, Most of Trump supporters aren't working poor who feel they got a raw deal and just decided to uponit7771 Dec 2015 #37

Seriously. ucrdem Dec 2015 #43

I never said that Reagan created the "Southern Strategy" but most everyone has heard of Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #49

Southern strategy = dog whistling and we don't need any more of it. nt ucrdem Dec 2015 #51

The 99% is Bernie's strategy. n/t Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #53

That's an interesting "strategy." BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #63

Yes, SOME people change and grow. Gradually, incrementally, imperceptibly, over many years. Binkie The Clown Dec 2015 #48

The thing about change is that it can be very incremental with hardly any noticeable movement and Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #50

Supporting Bernie didn't require any change on my part. Binkie The Clown Dec 2015 #60

I did DJ13 Dec 2015 #55

Yes I do, but I thought you were talking about Hillary there for a minute Hekate Dec 2015 #61

Yes... LeftishBrit Dec 2015 #62

No. Not when they are filled with prejudice and fear. Fear is a big motivator. Maybe Bernie can sell livetohike Dec 2015 #66

I think he would be better suited to go after Clinton supporters. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #67

Seeking Trump supporters in order to secure the Democratic nomination ... NurseJackie Dec 2015 #72

Spot on. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #73

Hillary better look at her own limits Armstead Dec 2015 #81

Good, positive argument Dem2 Dec 2015 #69

K&R. Interesting conversation - marking for later. n/t ms liberty Dec 2015 #71

only if the message and thus the debate is put out there in the public Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #74

but "curl into a fetal position and give up" *is* their gameplan MisterP Dec 2015 #75

Oh my. Has Sanders turned into a minister? "to save the prodigal sons and daughters" riversedge Dec 2015 #76

Of course! Look at the Hillarians. earthside Dec 2015 #77

Links please Hekate Dec 2015 #78

Here ya go. earthside Dec 2015 #79

I posted this in another thread but I think it goes well here too. liberal_at_heart Dec 2015 #84

There are many on this board mcar Dec 2015 #85

Hillary can grow, learn, evolve be enlightened, transformed or have epiphanies but Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #86

Are you equating courting Trump supporters to stopping Hitler? postatomic Dec 2015 #88

"Jumbled"? Your post is illogical, taking Trump's supporters away from him by enlightening Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #89

And the Hitler and Religious references? postatomic Dec 2015 #90

Was Hitler not part of history, do religion nor the 1st Amendment exist? Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #96

Genghis Khan was part of history, I can't speak to religion, and the 1st Amendment is still around postatomic Dec 2015 #100

Prime example of why liberals should stay away from religious imagery. wildeyed Dec 2015 #92

Agreed. Not a good mix postatomic Dec 2015 #94

Prime example of why people should study Godwin's Law better, it doesn't mean you lost anything. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #97

I am totally making fun of your post based on its merits. wildeyed Dec 2015 #99

No I'm stating that you haven't presented any logical rebuttal to my OP. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #102

Apparently you think that answering your own wildeyed Dec 2015 #104

You certainly implied it and the only people on this thread having proposed Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #105

Wow, so Bernie Sanders can save your soul! wildeyed Dec 2015 #91

I've been told that Bernie (has the) "uncanny ability to defuse racist hatred" postatomic Dec 2015 #93

Let Bernie Sanders cast out the tiny Hitlers from your soul! wildeyed Dec 2015 #95

Hitler was a corporal and failed artist before he became Hitler the dictator, his early demagoguery Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #98

Well you got me there! wildeyed Dec 2015 #101

What is your logical argument that Bernie shouldn't be trying to weaken Trump? Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #103