2016 Postmortem

R B Garr

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179. Exactly. Trump is being propped up by the tea baggers

Sun Dec 27, 2015, 09:07 PM

Dec 2015

who are tired of political correctness and love how he vulgarizes people at the level of visceral hatred they understand. Wall Street, corpo gibberish is only a vehicle for them to conveniently hide behind so they can act out without repercussions.

I have to laugh at those who are embracing Trump now that some crumbs from his campaign may benefit Bernie. People here got their posts hidden for suggesting Bernie's message was limited and might attract these type of people. What they warned about is now true.

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Sanders says he’s courting Trump supporters [View all] Historic NY Dec 2015 OP

Wow! MohRokTah Dec 2015 #1

I understand. Maddening, isn't it? NurseJackie Dec 2015 #3

Eight years of GWB's polarization should have taught us some things by now. TheBlackAdder Dec 2015 #22

"redirecting their ire" <-- THIS. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #148

Bull. Bernie luvs him the MiC - Lockheed Martin, anyone? Sandia, anyone? BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #183

Clinton Tops List Of Arms Company Campaign Contributions 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #186

From your link, Sanders is in the list of the top 20 Senators who receives donations from Arms BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #189

At least he's not at the fucking top of the list. nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #192

That doesn't change the fact that he IS on it, does it? BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #193

Where is this "list" you say I posted? 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #194

The one you claim in this post. BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #210

Yes. That IS the link I posted. No. That link has NO list or any link TO any list. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #211

Ugh! I can't believe I have to explain this. READ. YOUR. SUBJECT. LINE BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #220

OK, my bad ... i see now where we're taking past one another. 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #222

No harm. No foul. BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #228

THIS uponit7771 Dec 2015 #214

Please see THIS 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #218

99th, YOU started with the "top of the list" meme. Not. Me. It's why I reposted a link BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #219

Thank you for this, BlueCali.. not so perfect. Cha Dec 2015 #229

No, Cha, not so perfect and never was. BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #234

haha. best spin yet. Laughable. riversedge Dec 2015 #202

Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #133

Mexicans are not the reason it's hard to find a good job. TheFarseer Dec 2015 #153

My Plan? ... News flash ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #154

News flash TheFarseer Dec 2015 #171

You didn't waste your time with 1SBM. You, apparently, just learned something new. BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #182

Convincing a racist to vote for a PoC champion candidate is "sinking to new lows"? Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #41

indeed, it boggles the mind, doesn't it? stupidicus Dec 2015 #70

When it is suggested putting the "wedge issues" to the side to get that vote? Damn scary. seabeyond Dec 2015 #86

Hillary was willing to support a ban on late term abortions to get elected in NY. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #93

anyone who can denigrate this effort is a fool. These people need someone besides Trump to show roguevalley Dec 2015 #113

Of course they did. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #117

+1000 Sheepshank Dec 2015 #137

Among some, support for their candidate okasha Dec 2015 #167

Yes... DUbeornot2be Dec 2015 #55

Thank you. You said it much better than I ever could. notadmblnd Dec 2015 #132

Well thanks... DUbeornot2be Dec 2015 #165

He has got to get those numbers up yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #62

actually, on land lines she's winning. No where else. roguevalley Dec 2015 #114

The irony is that he is winning their votes with a progressive message that supports the 99%. rhett o rick Dec 2015 #63

I suppose it's better to appeal to the country club folks.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #98

Wow. BDS to a the max. cali Dec 2015 #100

How is this a reflection on his character? bowens43 Dec 2015 #145

He wants them to vote for a Democrat instead of a Republican? Like Obamacans? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #2

People who support Trump, see Sanders as a chump.... Historic NY Dec 2015 #9

Well I guess I'll have to take your word for it, I don't know how Republicans think. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #10

A big 10-4 to that. If a candidate hired saltpoint Dec 2015 #23

Trump is busy alienating voters while Bernie is trying to unite them. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #27

Your broadside on Trump is entirely saltpoint Dec 2015 #32

Good points. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #36

Always a pleasure to run saltpoint Dec 2015 #38

1964 was the last time a Democratic presidential candidate won Alaska. Blue_In_AK Dec 2015 #119

Blue In Ak, hello right back. saltpoint Dec 2015 #136

Damn, this is a brilliant strategy CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #103

Very well said! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #105

+1000. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #168

Actually there is a clue to how Republican think on this cross over issue Sheepshank Dec 2015 #150

I don't understand how they think but if you do, more power to ya! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #180

I'd hardly call tea partiers disenfranchised redstateblues Dec 2015 #203

Hmmm Andy823 Dec 2015 #4

Not all of them are racist. They're in pain. NYCButterfinger Dec 2015 #7

They are all racist iandhr Dec 2015 #112

I think some of them are merely ignorant or uninformed/disinformed xynthee Dec 2015 #141

They care about economy and it's effect on them. whathehell Dec 2015 #15

So... quickesst Dec 2015 #67

you obviously don't know a broad spectrum of people. Enjoy your day. roguevalley Dec 2015 #116

Thank you,... quickesst Dec 2015 #161

... postatomic Dec 2015 #125

There's more than one alternative. whathehell Dec 2015 #187

Or, these voters do know how the economy works; but, place a higher value their prejudices. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #142

Exactly. Racists blame minorities for their 'misfortune', not policies. Rose Siding Dec 2015 #181

Trump supporters are not the same as Tea Partiers starroute Dec 2015 #108

Exactly. Trump is being propped up by the tea baggers R B Garr Dec 2015 #179

Sanders appeals to a wide spectrum of voters, LWolf Dec 2015 #5

Listening 40yrs of the same speech after speech Historic NY Dec 2015 #16

Sanders has a good record LWolf Dec 2015 #24

Some how his record of getting things done does not show up in getting bills passed Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #40

Just look a little further. LWolf Dec 2015 #45

Please provide a link of his amendments Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #50

a link for you thesquanderer Dec 2015 #84

You mean like the amendment Bernie voted for legitimizing racist Minuteman militias? SunSeeker Dec 2015 #74

Now, that and his support for the Border wall okasha Dec 2015 #169

You keep repeating that mantra like it's going to come true if you say it often enough. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #46

the meaness and anger in the anti posts indicate a visceral understanding that Bernie is winning roguevalley Dec 2015 #120

bow down bernie stuff. Seriously, your support of hillary is acknowledged. You are allowed your roguevalley Dec 2015 #118

Well since Hillary has 60 percent support, she doesn't need to hope the Repugs yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #64

Only 60% of Registered Democrats sonofspy777 Dec 2015 #83

Which puts Bernie at below 15% redstateblues Dec 2015 #97

on landlines, she's ahead. in the real world, not so much. roguevalley Dec 2015 #121

Oblivious, obviously, to the point. nt LWolf Dec 2015 #99

A lot of sane GOPs are voting for HRC Iliyah Dec 2015 #124

Dreamer n/t Old Codger Dec 2015 #163

Often, Republicans CAN vote in Dem primaries thesquanderer Dec 2015 #95

If Sanders can put Texas in play, it is game over for KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #212

I think he put Texas in play LWolf Dec 2015 #227

I don't blame a candidate for trying to expand his/her share of the electorate. randome Dec 2015 #6

Right. They're angry and bitter that the "good ole days" are gone YoungDemCA Dec 2015 #34

Funny you should mention white working class Americans. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #37

Bernie is putting his message out with the hope that Trump supporters will hear it and feel hope. roguevalley Dec 2015 #123

They are angry because the corporate run government has sent all their jobs to China. rhett o rick Dec 2015 #61

I don't claim to speak for Trump saltpoint Dec 2015 #8

He does better than Hillary against Trump Motown_Johnny Dec 2015 #11

There are people who like both Trump and Sanders because they're both anti-Establishment. CJCRANE Dec 2015 #12

Wait. Votes are a *good* thing, right? bvf Dec 2015 #13

Brilliant. Cause as we've pointed out, libdem4life Dec 2015 #14

So True! But don't hold your breath for Hillarians to admit that. n/t 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #149

Deep exhale. Thanks. libdem4life Dec 2015 #172

More votes beats fewer votes. saltpoint Dec 2015 #17

Brilliant move! guillaumeb Dec 2015 #18

( ._.) Marty McGraw Dec 2015 #90

We want a candidate who gets no support Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #19

Ironic hypocrisy Depaysement Dec 2015 #20

Yep! rhett o rick Dec 2015 #56

Economic distress. earthside Dec 2015 #21

Spot on! Marty McGraw Dec 2015 #92

Might sound like "desperation" to you, NorthCarolina Dec 2015 #25

Sanders courting bitter, racist, xenophobic nuts. Imagine that! YoungDemCA Dec 2015 #26

Because Hillary would never do that, right? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #31

2007! Yep she learned from her mistakes. Bernie should know it didn't work for her. yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #69

Except Bernie isn't pandering to bigots like she did, he stuck up for our rights. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #72

We'll see. I thought Bernie would have gotten more support by now. yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #75

you believe the landline polls. The real poll is coming up and since he can gather thousands of roguevalley Dec 2015 #127

I with you look forward to February 1st yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #131

"Convincing people that they're on the wrong side" used to be considered a good thing. arcane1 Dec 2015 #164

Right up until Bernie did it. The daily outrage is nothing if not amusing. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #191

Yes. We will just set aside the wedge issues and discuss the important issues. Nt. seabeyond Dec 2015 #42

He is courting those that like his support of the People over big money. The very reason HRC rhett o rick Dec 2015 #60

Primary '08 Retrospective: Barack Obama "I want some Obama Republicans!" Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #81

And many, many Sanders supporters ripped Obama for saying that…. KittyWampus Dec 2015 #138

First, your assertion is left unproven, second what's that got to do with me and with Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #175

Of course they did... any opportunity to rip into President Obama. Cha Dec 2015 #231

They love frivolous law suits(minus one industry).... NCTraveler Dec 2015 #28

If you say so. :D:D:D roguevalley Dec 2015 #128

Getting some people to turn to the Light Side is a good thing. backscatter712 Dec 2015 #29

He will be their President too Rebkeh Dec 2015 #30

To me it sounds like "win". lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #33

Good luck with that. Trump supporters don't care about economic populism OKNancy Dec 2015 #35

she has and so has obama. look up list. roguevalley Dec 2015 #129

Or going to Liberty U.. President Obama, VP Biden, and SOS Hillary Clinton declined.. Cha Dec 2015 #223

"Clinton Gets Praise From Rick Warren for Showing up to Church" beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #224

It appears that Sanders has read Thomas Franks' book "What's the Matter with Kansas?" Larkspur Dec 2015 #39

I'm surprised he's admitting this, MoonRiver Dec 2015 #43

really? roguevalley Dec 2015 #130

Well to me that indicates he can't get enough Democrats MoonRiver Dec 2015 #173

Good. That's why he has a better chance of winning the General than HRC. rhett o rick Dec 2015 #44

Yes, the Republican Party of the bigoted white male voter. We get that. seabeyond Dec 2015 #47

Hillary pandered to them often enough in 2008, remember? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #49

Her current failure to speak out as a progressive on any issues is pandering to the Republicans. nm rhett o rick Dec 2015 #58

This is true, and she has been saber rattling as well. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #59

Not all Republicans are bigoted white males. I would think you would understand that. rhett o rick Dec 2015 #52

Obama '08: "I want some Obama Republicans!" Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #82

Pure speculation, considering not one vote is cast. Historic NY Dec 2015 #54

Sanders will get more Republicans to switch than HRC. In fact some say that HRC will rhett o rick Dec 2015 #57

Maybe Sanders is working on being Trumps running mate or he is in training to give Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #48

He lit into the Donald again today, do try to keep up. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #51

HRC is in the same wealthy 1% club as Trump. Actually they are close friends outside the campaign rhett o rick Dec 2015 #65

OMFG you are so right! Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #89

That's a repulsive comment. Utterly ridiculous and founded on nothing but cali Dec 2015 #115

Wage stagnation, jobs leaving our country... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #53

Well said and I agree that many people are so discouraged with present conditions appalachiablue Dec 2015 #106

When HRC does this it's because she is running for the general. Same concept. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #66

So you admit then he is trying to poach primary voters. Historic NY Dec 2015 #73

It is already in the bag for him so, why not aim for the general. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #144

Ah, but she tries to win the votes of the 'good Republicans', not the 'bad Republicans'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2015 #196

IKR Hiraeth Dec 2015 #199

the inability of some to understand something hardly serves as an undermining of stupidicus Dec 2015 #68

He's been banging on about getting conservative whites back for years. Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #71

Why not, Hillary has been courting conservatives for decades, except that Hillary is moving right whereisjustice Dec 2015 #76

Sanders is appealing to those that are sick of the corruption while HRC is appealing to those that rhett o rick Dec 2015 #80

So you're mad that he's trying to turn white people's anger LoveIsNow Dec 2015 #77

He is the only candidate that can win republican voters if Trump is nominated. Marrah_G Dec 2015 #78

Wrong. "Desperation" would be if Bernie were trying to sound CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #79

Exactly. The true "desperation" is the OP pretending that what hSanders is doing is a bad thing. arcane1 Dec 2015 #166

"We, as Democrats right now, should tap into the discontent of Republicans. I want Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #85

It seems like you are saying that Helen Borg Dec 2015 #87

Every conservative bigot, that drifts towards enlightened liberalism, will bring a few more along. TheBlackAdder Dec 2015 #88

I don't give a FUCK who votes for Bernie Sanders. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2015 #91

I agree. MoonRiver Dec 2015 #94

A video clip from 2008's 'Republicans For Obama' cohort....for context... Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #96

It's class warfare. As a latina, I welcome them azmom Dec 2015 #101

well, without pandering or altering his positions, the fiend! MisterP Dec 2015 #102

Hey OP, please comment on Obama's 08 statements about seeking Republican voters! Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #104

The nerve of the guy. Next he'll start courting Clinton supporters. Android3.14 Dec 2015 #107

Seems a little detached from reality iandhr Dec 2015 #109

They left our party a long time ago....... Historic NY Dec 2015 #139

So the Sanders campaign is all about anger and fear? postatomic Dec 2015 #110

Is this supposed to be a bad thing? Truly through the Looking Glass, now... AzDar Dec 2015 #111

Wow, just another weekend at Bernie's NEDem Dec 2015 #122

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! postatomic Dec 2015 #126

Great, Sanders is attracting voters to progressive policies. Broward Dec 2015 #134

Bernie could definitely appeal to some of them who support Trump for his opposition to H-1B visas... cascadiance Dec 2015 #135

I'd also contrast it with the opposite tack MisterP Dec 2015 #157

Good for Bernie. You shouldn't give up on people. Vinca Dec 2015 #140

Your average Trump supporter: postatomic Dec 2015 #143

Don't see the issue. joshcryer Dec 2015 #146

There are only two reasons to make this statement. Sheepshank Dec 2015 #147

+1. I feel it is as much #1 and this has always been his intent and goal. seabeyond Dec 2015 #151

Or, you know, he recognizes the overlap. joshcryer Dec 2015 #156

"We, as Democrats right now, should tap into the discontent of Republicans" Obama 08 Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #162

That thread devovlved rather quickly. Although, there are some salient points made further down. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #200

Hllarian Outrage that a 'socialist' dare educate the 'little people' to vote in their own interests 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #152

Trumps base.. MrWendel Dec 2015 #155

Bernie and Common Sense... SoapBox Dec 2015 #158

which is exactly why I stopped insulting Trump supporters several weeks ago grasswire Dec 2015 #159

I see no reason for outrage Nonhlanhla Dec 2015 #160

What I find most interesting about this.. one_voice Dec 2015 #170

Excellent, excellent post Number23 Dec 2015 #174

In 08 both Obama and Clinton attended anti gay churches and spoke to the congregations Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #176

Did you miss this part of my post on purpose? one_voice Dec 2015 #177

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2015 #215

Well said. nt Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #221

"I think it's great if you can bring someone over from the dark side. But where I have an issue is Cha Dec 2015 #232

I think this is a good idea. Chemisse Dec 2015 #178

If I wanted to be the President of the United States Aerows Dec 2015 #184

FINALLY, a brilliant strategy that progressives should have be pursuing all along Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #185

Do you think that everybody mythology Dec 2015 #188

More and more of those types are joining DU ecstatic Dec 2015 #190

It's just you. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2015 #197

If any genuine Jamaal510 Dec 2015 #195

They've been getting those 'personal experiences' recently in a number of states. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2015 #198

Good post, Jamaal.. thank you. ".. Obama=Socialism!" Cha Dec 2015 #233

I can believe it. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #201

Is Bernie changing his message and policy positions regarding women, minorities, and immigrants? Martin Eden Dec 2015 #204

Getting bodies to vote in open primary's appears to be the goal...... Historic NY Dec 2015 #206

An election campaign has several goals Martin Eden Dec 2015 #207

Yes you do or you wouldn't reply... Historic NY Dec 2015 #208

Speculation can lead to misunderstanding Martin Eden Dec 2015 #209

To keep Trumpers attention he'll have to, the vast majority of them aren't the working poor who've uponit7771 Dec 2015 #217

Bernie won't do that. n/t Martin Eden Dec 2015 #226

Why bother? Elmergantry Dec 2015 #205

I don't see anything wrong with trying to court voters from everywhere. lovemydog Dec 2015 #213

Court them, bring them over... but not under the illusion that they're poor and feel that they've... uponit7771 Dec 2015 #216

Exaclty what it is. Cha Dec 2015 #225

He doesn't have to 'go after them' AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #230