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jeff47

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86. Back doors mean you are not protecting privacy.

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 05:40 PM

Nov 2015

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There is nothing keeping others from using that back door. Just like there's nothing preventing people from using zero-day exploits.

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Hillary joins the authoritarian bandwagon demanding encryption backdoors in our devices. [View all] backscatter712 Nov 2015 OP

Yeah, protecting privacy and security = bad candidate. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #1

Hillary's doing about the exact opposite of protecting privacy and security. n/t backscatter712 Nov 2015 #2

And there it is. Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #5

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #11

Give me a break pinebox Nov 2015 #39

It is impossible to reliably ban encryption; you can however weaken security (a "Bad Thing") JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #42

Exactly. It's the same three-letter-agency creeps trotting out the same authoritarian garbage. backscatter712 Nov 2015 #44

Up is down, red is blue, north is south... Scootaloo Nov 2015 #49

. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #52

Did you notice all the poutrage down thread? leftofcool Nov 2015 #53

What are you whining about this time? sibelian Nov 2015 #73

No. No, you don't know any script kiddies who can break good encryption. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #78

apologist Loudestlib Nov 2015 #62

Are you for real? CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #65

Bollocks. sibelian Nov 2015 #74

Back doors mean you are not protecting privacy. jeff47 Nov 2015 #86

She likes the back door Fairgo Nov 2015 #97

Lol, doing the opposite of protecting privacy is what she's doing. But some people are okay with sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #90

"Protecting Privacy" by spying on us through our phones/tablets etc? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #91

"Protecting Privacy" AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #92

Demanding government have unlimited access to everyone's shit is not "protecting privacy" Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #93

Hillary is notorious for stating anything to sooth the Progressive BASE Rockyj Nov 2015 #110

How is what Hillary wants protecting privacy and security? n/t cui bono Nov 2015 #112

I am glad she is doing this now, before the first primary vote is cast FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #3

The progressive facade is fading TM99 Nov 2015 #12

I've never thought of her as a Progressive or a Liberal. Fuddnik Nov 2015 #29

Except she wears pantsuits. cui bono Nov 2015 #113

I've said all along she is NO progressive! pinebox Nov 2015 #40

Agreed. TM99 Nov 2015 #41

Resorting to "fear terrorists while I protect you" can't happen soon enough. arcane1 Nov 2015 #101

Me too. freedom fighter jh Nov 2015 #82

Clinton supporters on DU will now all be in favor Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #4

Maybe Prosense will make an appearance again. backscatter712 Nov 2015 #6

And some disinformant would splain Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #7

What makes you think she hasn't already posted in this thread? bahrbearian Nov 2015 #9

Very true, she may have had a firmware upgrade. n/t backscatter712 Nov 2015 #10

The fact that I can read. n/t JTFrog Nov 2015 #13

My thoughts exactly Fairgo Nov 2015 #99

Dehumanizing your opponents Dem2 Nov 2015 #23

I don't think prosense will be back until after the primaries SwampG8r Nov 2015 #77

That reads equally well bvf Nov 2015 #8

Wait, weren't you demanding an "intelligence response" to ISIS just last week? ucrdem Nov 2015 #14

Human Intelligence doees not mean hootinholler Nov 2015 #16

Intel pretty much means communication intercepts ucrdem Nov 2015 #21

Human Intel specifically means an agent gathering intel hootinholler Nov 2015 #26

Sure on Masterpiece Theater ucrdem Nov 2015 #34

Apparently you don't know the difference between a detective and a spy hootinholler Nov 2015 #36

Yes I'm behind on my Sunday evening viewing. nt ucrdem Nov 2015 #37

I don't believe you're current on the definition of human intelligence. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #79

Translation: Fuddnik Nov 2015 #43

Would Snowden et al. still be breathing under Bush/Cheney? ucrdem Nov 2015 #67

This is the only way to stop future terrorist attacks from happening. As for privacy concerns, Laser102 Nov 2015 #45

Then we should be supporting those who aren't committed to further undermining privacy. GoneOffShore Nov 2015 #80

As distinguished from a "stupid, knee-jerk response" Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #95

Typical response by her. Wanting to have it both ways, but leaning on the side of intrusion. EndElectoral Nov 2015 #15

She should pass this by the banks whose lifelines depend on secure communication. longship Nov 2015 #17

Insanity: 99Forever Nov 2015 #85

You take what is a balanced call for experts to examine the issue BootinUp Nov 2015 #18

It's a simple question. Should the government have a master key to look in everyone's phone? Cheese Sandwich Nov 2015 #19

A very good question. backscatter712 Nov 2015 #22

The Democratic party has historically protected privacy with judicial restraints BootinUp Nov 2015 #28

After seeing what Snowden revealed about the NSA, that's not good enough. backscatter712 Nov 2015 #60

I just don't see a majority in the US taking your viewpoint BootinUp Nov 2015 #68

And, as Glenn Greenwald said on Democracy Now! a few days ago, Fuddnik Nov 2015 #35

Yes. They should. And they should be able to use that key only under court order. randome Nov 2015 #50

And when others work out that key? jeff47 Nov 2015 #87

So we just ignore child pornographers and organized crime and hope they go away? randome Nov 2015 #105

No, we stop pretending they'd be stupid enough to not use proper encryption. jeff47 Nov 2015 #106

Not everyone uses an iPhone. Apple is the only company offering full-proof encryption, right? randome Nov 2015 #107

No. Android has had it for years. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #108

"Balanced" "Experts" my arse. sibelian Nov 2015 #75

You want an expert, I'll give you an expert. backscatter712 Nov 2015 #84

Hillary- ruffburr Nov 2015 #20

Yep, she thinks she's won it, so she's kissing up to her powerful fuckbuddies now. n/t backscatter712 Nov 2015 #24

I'm still trying to ascertain what she is doing... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #71

Clinton ignores the direst of warnings: Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #25

Do you worry about profits much- ruffburr Nov 2015 #27

There are indeed. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #31

I'll remember this when I hear 'Supreme Court' pengu Nov 2015 #30

Good point. eom Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #32

My God this is such a good point. nt stillwaiting Nov 2015 #48

Ugh...she's the worst. SoapBox Nov 2015 #33

GTFO Hillary! NOW! pinebox Nov 2015 #38

The Supposed Progressive - Flops - Now Supports Electronic Tyranny - This Citizen Is Not Surprised cantbeserious Nov 2015 #46

This is a perfect illustration of what Hillary is mindwalker_i Nov 2015 #47

who honestly didn't think the new iPhone security SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2015 #51

Or by any number of 'run-of-the-mill' criminal enterprises. randome Nov 2015 #56

*fear the authorities* Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #66

Right. Because child pornographers and organized crime don't exist except in our imaginations. randome Nov 2015 #104

Agreed. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #72

the NSA used its post 9-11 surveillance blank check to help the DEA target drug users. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #100

There is nothing in that article that suggests small-town pot users were targeted. randome Nov 2015 #103

Right. The drug war has no excesses, and only big bad drug cartels are targeted. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #109

It is not possible to create a backdoor that only the "good guys" can use. jeff47 Nov 2015 #88

Yes, it's maddening when cops set up a stingray the parking lot of a Phish show to bust pot smokers Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #98

Welp, I am glad her 'slip is hanging' as my Gram used to say...However, I cannot believe AzDar Nov 2015 #54

Was there any question that she would? CharlotteVale Nov 2015 #55

So much better than a Republican because she will Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #57

DEVELOPMENT OF SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY AND RISK OF ABUSE OF ECONOMIC INFORMATION OnyxCollie Nov 2015 #58

Using a crisis to go full authoritarian - She is really bad. fbc Nov 2015 #59

She's had plenty of opportunities to learn (the hard way) as the email snafu has demonstrated... n/t backscatter712 Nov 2015 #61

"Wipe a hard drive? Like with a cloth?" fbc Nov 2015 #63

That was "befuddled grandma" Hillary, "gosh golly i just have an aol.com email address" Hillary Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #96

But she doesn't know what *Wipe* a computer mean??? Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #64

From the link MaggieD Nov 2015 #69

She's not listening to the computer security experts. backscatter712 Nov 2015 #76

It is not possible to create a backdoor that only "the good guys" can use. jeff47 Nov 2015 #89

Any IT person who votes for Hillary is a fool davidn3600 Nov 2015 #70

she'd vote for the Iraq War again too ibegurpard Nov 2015 #81

big surprise that she would be on the wrong side of this issue Vattel Nov 2015 #83

NSA shares surveillance data with DEA, to assist them in investigating and arresting pot smokers. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #94

Yep Parallel Construction. backscatter712 Nov 2015 #102

NSA shares surveillance data with FBI, who shares surveillance data with corrupt US Attorneys, OnyxCollie Nov 2015 #111

Prosecuting, or blackmailing. backscatter712 Nov 2015 #115

The Secret Service codename for Hillary Clinton is . . . Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #114