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Bernin4U

(812 posts)
159. What's wrong with gun mfrs?
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 03:57 PM
Nov 2015

Not that I know much about it (closest I've come to firing a gun was a getting to try an older brother's bb rifle at age 12). But it seems they're pretty good at what they do.

As far as responsibility, a company is only charged to make something that works as they legally sold it. Period.

You don't get to have something both ways. If you don't like that a product exists, or how it's used, is one thing. Take it up with your congress person.

Or hell, be a rebel and create a plan to steal all the guns and drop them to the bottom of the ocean. It may not be effective, or even smart, but at least it's logical.

But to say that a product that was sold legally, can suddenly become an illegal sale due to the conduct of the end user, follows no logic. That's called grasping at straws.

Fight the good fight, not the bad one.

I flipped as soon as I realized Bernie was in Trajan Nov 2015 #1
I guess I decided to do a writein for Elvis Presley. I saw he was running for a state office. LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #2
Gee, I'm not sure how to break this to you, but Elvis is merrily Nov 2015 #89
DU taught me who NOT to support. nt antigop Nov 2015 #3
Due to the issues being posted? Cassiopeia Nov 2015 #20
At least one person. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #4
Lmao +1 jkbRN Nov 2015 #12
LMFAO L0oniX Nov 2015 #22
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That feels as if you are implying people are being racist. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #29
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So Bernie Sanders supporters are being racist? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #32
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Oh c'mon. Really? panader0 Nov 2015 #37
Long after the Scandinavians, yes. But, they were not brutal to the people they found here. merrily Nov 2015 #101
My comment about Columbus was in reference to an earlier post. panader0 Nov 2015 #112
No I have never been to the AA forum. Please answer the question honestly. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #39
That commenter got a hide and so can't respond in this thread jfern Nov 2015 #61
I wished it had not been hidden. I do think if we make such serious charges... Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #65
It was pretty blatant allegation of racism imo B&C riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #71
Broadbrushing all supporters of Sanders as racists should be hidden. JMO. merrily Nov 2015 #102
Good Capt. Obvious Nov 2015 #85
Not me, I was raised by an opinionated black woman who worked for my moms aunt. LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #93
Is it possible to dislike an AA individual without it being racist? Do you like Ben Carson? Romulox Nov 2015 #47
well randys1 Nov 2015 #48
Sounds like you have a problem with an opinionated Black man. Hmmmmm.... Romulox Nov 2015 #52
well randys1 Nov 2015 #53
You also seem to have bad taste in music. Grand Funk Railroad????? nt Romulox Nov 2015 #58
Hey now, There's nothing wrong with GFR LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #95
She's stalked my real life and brought it to DU riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #49
Sounds like a serious accusation, one you best be prepared to prove randys1 Nov 2015 #51
Gladly. She admits it herself riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #59
LOL! Like you prove your allegations? merrily Nov 2015 #103
If you don't want anyone to know who you are you probably shouldn't post your name and seaglass Nov 2015 #73
What a shitty thing to do after seeing her comments. demmiblue Nov 2015 #74
Accusing someone of stalking when info is readily available is pretty shitty. She can easily seaglass Nov 2015 #75
You are making it easier to encourage more potential psychos to stalk her (on and off DU)... demmiblue Nov 2015 #80
+1 merrily Nov 2015 #105
+1000. nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #111
That story is about my bi-racial heritage riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #77
No if you post your personal info on DU it is not protected no matter what group you are in. You seaglass Nov 2015 #86
No one other than you has linked that old DU post riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #92
Maybe not currently, if being on timeout again means anything... nt edgineered Nov 2015 #28
Performance art. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #46
. Autumn Nov 2015 #55
No. Agschmid Nov 2015 #5
Apparently many Hillary supporters have Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #6
Yeah I'm pretty certain Hillary supporters want responsible government too. redwitch Nov 2015 #7
The facts don't support your belief Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #10
+1.nt Snotcicles Nov 2015 #15
They do not discuss issues AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #18
Jury results pintobean Nov 2015 #17
ALL? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #21
This alert is interesting because Android3.14 Nov 2015 #98
Why don't you explain why you believe what you do... jberryhill Nov 2015 #19
Thank you, finally someone says it with the gusto needed. randys1 Nov 2015 #27
Back at ya berryhill Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #82
No, I will not take a chill jberryhill Nov 2015 #145
Thank you. More sane Bernie supporters need to speak up about this kind of crap. Nt stevenleser Nov 2015 #144
Beautifully stated, as is your follow up. yardwork Nov 2015 #172
You don't get one without the other. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #38
A few have claimed to Prism Nov 2015 #8
WOW ... How piously judgemental of you! ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #97
Oh stop Prism Nov 2015 #118
+1 (Not to mention, being impiously judgmental is a skill very few have mastered.) merrily Nov 2015 #125
What are you talking about? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #128
I guess we are different ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #127
Who said anything about arguments? Prism Nov 2015 #137
This is what I was responding to ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #143
Pious???? Puglover Nov 2015 #173
No. I mean, yes. Um, don't know. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #9
Yes yes yes! luvspeas Nov 2015 #40
I know, right? merrily Nov 2015 #133
I haven't picked a candidate tammywammy Nov 2015 #11
That's about where I am too. procon Nov 2015 #24
No I was undecided until rbrnmw Nov 2015 #13
because of DU? That is the key part of the question. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #31
No because of how she handled herself rbrnmw Nov 2015 #34
Fair enough. Then she won you as a voter. That is awesome. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #43
So you didn't like Bernie's witch trial? Bernin4U Nov 2015 #157
Nope. I am aligned with principles more than party - NRaleighLiberal Nov 2015 #14
No but it's helped me think about my choices to compare Armstead Nov 2015 #16
I could change between Clinton and O'Malley... NCTraveler Nov 2015 #23
I believe that, too artislife Nov 2015 #141
Flipped? No. Affirmed, confirmed and reaffirmed ? Yes. Eom GusBob Nov 2015 #25
Not due to discussion here, no Matariki Nov 2015 #35
I was on Bernie now I'm with Hillary. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #36
Interesting. What made you flip? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #41
Her overwhelming aura of competence... JaneyVee Nov 2015 #54
That sounds fair. Going for an effective politician. One that can win in your view. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #60
But no question on the validity of said endorsements? Bernin4U Nov 2015 #158
LOLOL. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #42
Several of DU's most conservative posters *claim* to have switched from Bernie to Hillary. Romulox Nov 2015 #44
I know right? It's laughable. JimDandy Nov 2015 #62
Still some out there faux-ing support for Bernie. Some on this very thread, in fact. merrily Nov 2015 #84
I've switched to Hillary several times now MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #45
Thank YOU randys1 Nov 2015 #50
You still need a sarcasm emote for a MannyGoldstein post? merrily Nov 2015 #81
Have you no mercy? Have you no pity? merrily Nov 2015 #114
In my defense, Poe's Law is to the Internet as MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #117
Exactly my point: Poe's Law is why deus sine machina made emoticons. merrily Nov 2015 #120
So emoticons are exempt from Poe's Law? MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #121
I suppose even emoticons can be used as tools of various kinds. merrily Nov 2015 #124
That... that was *sarcasm*? MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #131
o.k. nt merrily Nov 2015 #132
P.S. FWIW, I don't think you suck. I suspect no supporter of Sanders does. merrily Nov 2015 #122
Oh? Have we met IRL? MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #126
You claimed we had. merrily Nov 2015 #130
The contrast between Bernie and Hillary is so profound, it wouldn't make sense to switch. Maedhros Nov 2015 #56
That's the bottom line. All that's left for both groups on DU is to JimDandy Nov 2015 #66
I supported Sanders until I discovered his record on Bradey Bill Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #57
I have it on great authority that Bernie totally supports Bradley and likes his mother too. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #90
It is his voting record that matters, not who he likes. nt Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #96
It doesn't appear as if you ever really looked in to the record. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #99
Don't be fool be appearances. nt. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #100
Why don't you post something you found about Bradley? nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #108
Oh, look, it's the Bradley Bunch Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #150
My mistake, the Bradey bill. STill, he voted against it. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #156
It is actually Brady and that is how I know you never actually researched it. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #169
What's wrong with gun mfrs? Bernin4U Nov 2015 #159
Immunizing them from lawsuits is the problem. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #160
Sorry, maybe I missed? Bernin4U Nov 2015 #164
So you agree with Sanders providing a special privaledge of Corporate Welfare to Gun Manufacturers. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #165
Show me a case Bernin4U Nov 2015 #167
I used to support Hillary demwing Nov 2015 #63
I flipped from supporting Sanders to unquestionably supporting Sanders tularetom Nov 2015 #64
I was a default HRC supporter; thought Bernie was a Kucinich; that Manny & Willy were nuts. aikoaiko Nov 2015 #67
Some posts here have raised my opinion of O'Malley, but I haven't flipped. DanTex Nov 2015 #68
Yes the snarky Bernie supporters have turned me off to him doc03 Nov 2015 #69
Me too. I used to care about issues and stuff. Then I read some snark on the internet. Romulox Nov 2015 #70
Well thanks your post is exactly what I was talking about. n/t doc03 Nov 2015 #168
I like Sanders a lot less than I did at the outset--solely because of the behavior MADem Nov 2015 #72
That does it: I'm switching to Hillary MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #113
No, you aren't. It remains unclear to me who you actually support. nt MADem Nov 2015 #139
Presidential? No. merrily Nov 2015 #76
I've supported Bernie ever since he got into the race. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #78
No, but I've got more people on Ignore Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #79
I agree. It really makes my heart sink. pinstikfartherin Nov 2015 #136
I haven't necessarily flipped, but I've gone from leaning toward Sanders lovemydog Nov 2015 #83
So you like Sanders but are willing to switch because of things people who claim to support him say? peacebird Nov 2015 #104
You're saying all that stuff. lovemydog Nov 2015 #106
No because no one has ever been able to retrowire Nov 2015 #87
I support anyone not Republican in the middle or left. joshcryer Nov 2015 #88
I liked Hillary until she voted for that damn Iraq War. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #91
Really? Me, not so much. merrily Nov 2015 #155
No (nt) bigwillq Nov 2015 #94
No Depaysement Nov 2015 #107
Nope n/t JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #109
Not really Dem2 Nov 2015 #110
No, I liked Bernie from the get-go Aerows Nov 2015 #115
No, I haven't flipped. Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #116
No, but I've been stunned watching Team Hillary work here Hydra Nov 2015 #119
Nope - I'll vote for Bernie. 840high Nov 2015 #123
Trashing Bernie because of disliking Bernie supporters is sooooooooo 7th grade. valerief Nov 2015 #129
No, but my support or Clinton in the GE is in jeopardy HassleCat Nov 2015 #134
No, and I think some people need a DU intervention. pinstikfartherin Nov 2015 #135
yes DonCoquixote Nov 2015 #138
Agree. Bernie handled himself correctly. Bernin4U Nov 2015 #162
Nope. Not a bit. The more you attack and ridicule Clinton, the more I think we need her. McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 #140
Of course Flying Squirrel Nov 2015 #142
Yes Hepburn Nov 2015 #146
Got passion? Of course it's going to get "ugly". Bernin4U Nov 2015 #166
Not in this election so far.... BooScout Nov 2015 #147
I don't post to flip anyone UglyGreed Nov 2015 #148
No, but LWolf Nov 2015 #149
Not much in presidential elections, but it has helped in more local races Renew Deal Nov 2015 #151
Nope JackInGreen Nov 2015 #152
I have observed several who have flipped who they are supporting due the "discussion" on DU. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #153
I supported Hillary in 2008, caucused for her. Compared her to Warren, Bernie talked about running Autumn Nov 2015 #154
I'm not going to vote for Bernie now. I've read I'm too simple-minded, Pathwalker Nov 2015 #161
This thread is comedy gold. Puglover Nov 2015 #163
I know, right? merrily Nov 2015 #171
I had leaned O'Malley for a while once it was clear Schweitzer was out, but the O'Malley group Recursion Nov 2015 #170
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