2016 Postmortem

bvf

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93. Your convictions have *everything* to do with it.

Mon Nov 2, 2015, 11:42 PM

Nov 2015

No one's impressed by your tenure, btw, your expectation to the contrary notwithstanding.

Come on, spare us the coy pretense. Surely you had a poster or two in mind when you made your statement.

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Has anyone noticed this shift in thinking about Clinton from Sanders folks? [View all] brooklynite Nov 2015 OP

I'm a Bernie supporter and I don't say that TexasBushwhacker Nov 2015 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author RoccoR5955 Nov 2015 #58

If she isn't a Democrat, does that make O'Malley the only true Democrat in the race? LonePirate Nov 2015 #2

Very interesting point. Koinos Nov 2015 #55

I agree. Aerows Nov 2015 #60

Hillary ran to the right of Obama. She's a Dem all right, but the Dem party has gone too far Bonobo Nov 2015 #3

That's the opinion I share. FLson Nov 2015 #28

You're not suggesting Trump as president would be a good thing, are you? thucythucy Nov 2015 #46

Trump would be very very very very very very very bad. FLson Nov 2015 #50

Trump would be horrible Aerows Nov 2015 #54

Yes, this! TDale313 Nov 2015 #32

Those aren't tied together. JimDandy Nov 2015 #4

It's bullshit, is what it is. MineralMan Nov 2015 #5

Whoooooosh... Fumesucker Nov 2015 #24

PLENTY of them, MM. I agree. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #81

Hummm, interesting, huh. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #107

Very. Yes, very, Thinkingabout. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #110

Bullshit, astroturfing and pretenders. Autumn Nov 2015 #82

What did Gandhi say? First they laugh at you then they fight you, then you win. They're fighting us stevenleser Nov 2015 #90

*mic drop* eom BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #111

Yes Goldman Sachs and Time Warner are such persecuted radicals Armstead Nov 2015 #150

I've definitely noticed the demonization R B Garr Nov 2015 #6

No. I hadn't noticed. But what I have noticed 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #7

Here's the link to a Bernie supporter saying Hillary is not a Democrat: Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #10

I guess I asked for it, and predicted it, as well 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #15

He is far and away from FDR, FDR lead this nation out of a depression and fought a war. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #109

A post, created today = "Bernie supporters, all month" Scootaloo Nov 2015 #41

It's been WAY longer than a month actually. See post 97. nt MADem Nov 2015 #99

How about right there in the #3 position on GD:P brooklynite Nov 2015 #11

Will this do? OilemFirchen Nov 2015 #12

As I said above, this is how I predicted it: she's "not an FDR Dem" 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #17

That is at the very best an overly charitable reading on your mythology Nov 2015 #33

Here's what I said upstring 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #44

I doubt either FDR or JFK would pass the litmus test of some of these posters here. thucythucy Nov 2015 #53

REALLY! What a honking load of revisionist horseshit some of that nonsense is! MADem Nov 2015 #89

Are you replying to me? thucythucy Nov 2015 #170

Isn't it a pain in the ass that it's hard to tell "tone" sometimes with the written word? MADem Nov 2015 #175

You use FDR Democrats as if you actually know what it is..... Historic NY Nov 2015 #42

Thank you, HNY. eom BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #115

Thanks for your opinion... TheProgressive Nov 2015 #125

What kind of answer it that.... Historic NY Nov 2015 #136

How about proving your... TheProgressive Nov 2015 #171

It is called a state of denial. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #8

I've always held pinebox Nov 2015 #9

I have noticed it mcar Nov 2015 #13

They had to move the goal posts workinclasszero Nov 2015 #14

Well, just like Senator Sanders, Bernie supporters are just pointing out the truth... TheProgressive Nov 2015 #16

that's a lOt of people in the 1 percent JI7 Nov 2015 #20

The author of this thread... TheProgressive Nov 2015 #26

And the 50 plus percent of Democrats supporting Clinton are what? mythology Nov 2015 #34

That's a good question... TheProgressive Nov 2015 #36

Tell me what I am please since I am not a good Democrat. upaloopa Nov 2015 #61

Well, a real Democrat... TheProgressive Nov 2015 #63

Try post #42. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #113

Im so sick of this Bernista lie workinclasszero Nov 2015 #159

Who are you to decide who is a "real" Democrat? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #176

Just pure unadulterated bull shit. upaloopa Nov 2015 #56

To the nth degree. And offensive to Hillary Clinton's Democratic supporters, as well. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #123

Yes,it seems most actual democrats aren't real democrats now,either that sufrommich Nov 2015 #18

Some Sanders folks. Not me. Not others. onenote Nov 2015 #19

Nope jfern Nov 2015 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author 840high Nov 2015 #22

For an explanation DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #23

How many "Bernie isn't a Democrat!!!" posts have we had? nt Bonobo Nov 2015 #25

^This Hydra Nov 2015 #31

And that is another shift worth noting! Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #139

He caucuses with the Democrats but he has expressly avoided mythology Nov 2015 #35

What exactly do you think running for the democratic nomination means? Alittleliberal Nov 2015 #71

That would be because he isn't a Democrat. NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #47

Not enough Renew Deal Nov 2015 #64

But he's NOT a Democrat, and he'll be the first person to tell you so. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #120

I'm not saying anything about Bernie; just about his supporters. brooklynite Nov 2015 #149

Good thing those nasty supporters aren't running for president. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #157

and those are just as fucking stupid joshcryer Nov 2015 #191

They see him losing. bravenak Nov 2015 #27

Preemptive strike. Cha Nov 2015 #143

Bernie says "I am not a Democrat" Sheepshank Nov 2015 #29

He's a Democratic Socialist who has caucused with the Dems for years. TDale313 Nov 2015 #38

But there is not an active Democratic Socialist party primary he is running, he is running in the Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #116

It's a topic of conversation at salons Capt. Obvious Nov 2015 #30

Is it, Brooklynite? Do tell. Scootaloo Nov 2015 #37

Not really a concern to those of us who aren't Democrats. frylock Nov 2015 #39

Since the person Aerows Nov 2015 #51

Seems there is nothing new to say about Sanders. All they can do is post bull shit OP's about upaloopa Nov 2015 #40

What in the hell is a "real Democrat"? One with a (D) tattooed on his forehead? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #43

Yep. Rahm Emanuel, Terry Mcauliffe, Diane Feinstein, Joe Lieberman, Max baucus had 'D' tattoos. GoneFishin Nov 2015 #155

No. n/t That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #45

Yeah, the attacks are become more personal and vituperative. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #48

No. Aerows Nov 2015 #49

I have no objection to any of Bernie's policies... brooklynite Nov 2015 #52

fwiw, i still think she can't win restorefreedom Nov 2015 #57

So when does reality set in? upaloopa Nov 2015 #62

i am well grounded in reality restorefreedom Nov 2015 #67

nothing new noiretextatique Nov 2015 #59

Sanders is trying to be like Democrats, we are what we are, I am not far left. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #117

Yes. lovemydog Nov 2015 #65

I first met her when he was barely a candidate, I've always been fine with her. Until this week. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #66

Yes Renew Deal Nov 2015 #68

I dunno, it's hard to see through all the "Sanders supporters are white supremacist, volvo driving Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #69

Well, it's been kind of hard to miss. NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #70

So why not name a few DU members you have questions about? bvf Nov 2015 #72

It's against the rules. NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #74

No shit. You knew that going in. bvf Nov 2015 #76

But you knew that going into your line of questioning, lovemydog Nov 2015 #78

Do you have a gavel? bvf Nov 2015 #86

A metaphorical one. lovemydog Nov 2015 #88

Then feel free to alert. bvf Nov 2015 #95

LOL, thanks. lovemydog Nov 2015 #105

So that's what certain commenters were doing... senz Nov 2015 #128

Yeppurs, I knew that going in. NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #79

Your convictions have *everything* to do with it. bvf Nov 2015 #93

My tenure? NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #96

Your statement is yours to back up. bvf Nov 2015 #102

Lighten up, Francis. LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #119

You are not Sgt. Hulka. bvf Nov 2015 #122

And there we have it. Agschmid Nov 2015 #121

I was commenting on ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #124

Well, that's chuckle-worthy. bvf Nov 2015 #127

Oh, yes, of course ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #130

I wasn't the one saying, "Huh?" bvf Nov 2015 #132

Why? NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #133

Heh. bvf Nov 2015 #135

She has nothing to apologize for Capt. Obvious Nov 2015 #148

I was thinking folks in glass houses........ Puglover Nov 2015 #161

Your post stood TSIAS Nov 2015 #114

Thanks on both counts. n/t bvf Nov 2015 #126

You're being alert-stalked here. closeupready Nov 2015 #172

Are you talking about this one... TeeYiYi Nov 2015 #178

Bingo. closeupready Nov 2015 #180

Thanks, and thanks to TYY for the details. n/t bvf Nov 2015 #189

Probably those roving bands of renegade alert-stalking Sanders supporters I keep reading about. frylock Nov 2015 #193

Doing so is a ToS violation ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #83

Was that poster banned? bvf Nov 2015 #98

Nope. Still posting ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #145

It's like a kid ringing your doorbell lovemydog Nov 2015 #103

LOL ... No the kid has the SAME costume on ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #147

LOL! lovemydog Nov 2015 #185

I also noticed it with the seven-year bashing lovemydog Nov 2015 #80

Well, it's no coincidence ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #87

Indeed. lovemydog Nov 2015 #91

Yeah, yeah... bvf Nov 2015 #118

Then of course they deny the hell out of it .. for some reason. Guess they think it makes them Cha Nov 2015 #142

Impossible to miss, actually. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #131

I understand what you're saying lovemydog Nov 2015 #138

VanillaRhapsody and DemocratSinceBirth wrote excellent posts on the difference between BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #169

With all due respect, that's inaccurate. lovemydog Nov 2015 #184

With all due respect, I disagree with you, lovemydog. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #187

That's okay, and I do see your points, BlueCaliDem. lovemydog Nov 2015 #188

They're real, and they're spectacular. betsuni Nov 2015 #73

Well this Sanders supporter feels exactly the same way I did a month or so ago. Bernie like Obama sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #75

I have to say, the new "argument" is the definition of irony, given that their candidate refused MADem Nov 2015 #77

There is no new argument AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #85

Are you kidding? This is an old con--and it's being run by the right wing, and many "liberals" MADem Nov 2015 #97

So liberals are tools of the right wing? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #100

If they are passing on links from Breitbart, Daily Caller, Drudge, etc. that were written by MADem Nov 2015 #106

Time stamps are a bitch... LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #137

Well I'm still waiting for my check from them Armstead Nov 2015 #154

Why don't you read the article at the link? You aren't taking the point. MADem Nov 2015 #160

I know what you were referring to Armstead Nov 2015 #162

He wasn't above having Senator Obama campaigning for him. But, he's different. lol Cha Nov 2015 #141

No, but I did notice the single OP you are responding to AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #84

This message was self-deleted by its author cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #92

No. roody Nov 2015 #94

As the saying goes "You fall in love during the primaries and fall in line in the general." Snarkoleptic Nov 2015 #101

Feh kenfrequed Nov 2015 #104

If Hillary embraced the left and advocated for Universal Health Care.... Kalidurga Nov 2015 #108

Now it's, "She loses in a match-up with Republicans, and Bernie wins!" BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #112

I actually have said that. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #129

Ha Ha Ha. Dawson Leery Nov 2015 #134

Yeah, that's a sad whine. Cha Nov 2015 #140

Nope haven't noticed that at all azurnoir Nov 2015 #144

I support Bernie but I have never said either of those things Vattel Nov 2015 #146

Nope. But I have noticed a lot of bullshit "Bernie is not a Democrat" posts from Hillary's djean111 Nov 2015 #151

ehhh EdwardBernays Nov 2015 #152

What I've noticed is that the DOMAcrat wing of the Party is still smug and mean spirited as well Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #153

To a poster Puglover Nov 2015 #163

They are the DOMAcrats and by their actions you shall know them Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #174

Wishing something so doesn't make it so. Skidmore Nov 2015 #156

Curious. I've never heard that one before. Vinca Nov 2015 #158

They're losing, and they know it alcibiades_mystery Nov 2015 #164

And they're only losing because they made it a contest in the first place. randome Nov 2015 #166

Yes, I have noticed this also Gothmog Nov 2015 #165

First, Bernie is not a Democrat. That's important because.... Walk away Nov 2015 #167

No shift. Both messages have been out there for a long time. Thanks for noticing. aikoaiko Nov 2015 #168

What are your personal views on that DOMA revisionism she is serving up? Why is that ok with you? Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #173

That second part has largely always been true though. eom NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #177

anger is a stage of grief taught_me_patience Nov 2015 #179

No, I would let the people vote for you running your victory lap Bernblu Nov 2015 #181

Kick & recommended. William769 Nov 2015 #182

Nope. GeorgeGist Nov 2015 #183

If you say so. Fearless Nov 2015 #186

certain "supporters" have bashed democrats from day one joshcryer Nov 2015 #190

I don't know,why I bother to answer this sadoldgirl Nov 2015 #192