2016 Postmortem

bravenak

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178. I had to do this. Nobody treats me like that. Not without get back. They were so cocky.

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Sorry Clinton - you are no Progressive.... [View all] TheProgressive Oct 2015 OP

Copy cat Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #1

Hillary is the most qualified progressive to run for the Presidency lewebley3 Oct 2015 #168

` L0oniX Oct 2015 #171

Three cheers for HIllary lewebley3 Oct 2015 #191

LOL ...bar room cheers now? L0oniX Oct 2015 #204

And happy birthday Madam Secretary! George II Oct 2015 #236

John Kerry is a woman? BeanMusical Oct 2015 #259

+100 !! (NT) PosterChild Oct 2015 #181

She's not a progressive Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #182

She is very progessive; she is too progessive for many Americans lewebley3 Oct 2015 #183

Yeah... Plucketeer Oct 2015 #184

Sanders supporters are always push this lie lewebley3 Oct 2015 #189

So it's a lie that she's too progressive for TeaBaggers? BeanMusical Oct 2015 #217

She too progressive for many Dem's and to progressive for many Americans lewebley3 Oct 2015 #248

Whatever. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #254

Doesn't fit with your propaganda against her lewebley3 Oct 2015 #255

Lol, yeah I'm the new Leni Riefenstahl. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #256

By who's qualifications do you make your statement? TheProgressive Oct 2015 #192

Why don't you push Sanders quaifications: That right he doesn't have many lewebley3 Oct 2015 #200

Shouldn't you first backup your statement? TheProgressive Oct 2015 #202

Nice statement but can you actually back it up? She wasn't progressive when she bowed to George rhett o rick Oct 2015 #193

Hillary has history with Dem party" the liberal party": Hillary is very progressive lewebley3 Oct 2015 #199

Yes I am merely a Sanders supporter, looking for a change from the status quo rhett o rick Oct 2015 #228

And she wasn't looking out for the 99% when she voted for the bankruptcy bill dflprincess Oct 2015 #206

Certainly she has made some progressive votes, but that doesn't make her a progressive. rhett o rick Oct 2015 #230

The Statment is easy to back up just go to your lib, check out some books on HRC lewebley3 Oct 2015 #249

She lost all chance of being considered a progressive when she turned her back on her Party, the rhett o rick Oct 2015 #253

Hillary is not responsible for Iraq: Bush is he said so! lewebley3 Oct 2015 #263

HRC was not fooled by the likes of George Bush. She knew full well that the AUMF rhett o rick Oct 2015 #264

I'm Bernie Sanders and I don't approve this message... brooklynite Oct 2015 #2

You do not speak for Bernie moabfan Oct 2015 #5

...and neither does the OP brooklynite Oct 2015 #7

Most 'OP's do speak for themselves... TheProgressive Oct 2015 #12

I think it may be news to them. brooklynite Oct 2015 #14

OP speaks for me! sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #145

Me two! Plucketeer Oct 2015 #185

The OP didn't claim to speak for Sanders mindwalker_i Oct 2015 #45

I didn't see him claim to do so. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #78

Well then you didn't hear his speech earlier. HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #8

That's what I heard. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #105

You are not Bernie Sanders. Fearless Oct 2015 #13

You, sir, are no Bernie Sanders. Not even in the same ball park. nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #42

And once again we go for the distraction. Sen Sanders is a progressive. HRC is a conservative. rhett o rick Oct 2015 #196

Saying Clinton is not a progressive does not make it so... betsuni Oct 2015 #3

Check her record... TheProgressive Oct 2015 #4

That Hillary and Bernie voted 93% the same while Senators? betsuni Oct 2015 #30

As I recall, it is the remaining 7% that show the difference. djean111 Oct 2015 #91

The invasion of Iraq happened because the Bush administration lied. betsuni Oct 2015 #93

Clinton didn't just vote for war--she was a public cheerleader for it n/t eridani Oct 2015 #94

Links? betsuni Oct 2015 #98

Here ya go. 99Forever Oct 2015 #117

98? Plucketeer Oct 2015 #187

Google is a corporation. "Corporate" is an insult, right? betsuni Oct 2015 #237

Overly literal to the point of absurdity much? 99Forever Oct 2015 #238

You would know. betsuni Oct 2015 #239

No sir 99Forever Oct 2015 #241

Lieralism is really the only valid form of response to bumper-sticker philosophies... LanternWaste Oct 2015 #251

All that says is Hillary is easily duped while the people knew what was going on. cui bono Oct 2015 #147

For HRH her IWR vote/cheerleading was one of two things hifiguy Oct 2015 #188

+1 BeanMusical Oct 2015 #218

Hillary was the 13th most liberal Senator based on her voting record.. DCBob Oct 2015 #101

Break it down into "economic" vs "social" progressive policies ... kristopher Oct 2015 #140

I dont think the data is available that way. DCBob Oct 2015 #143

You say that as if that means something. cui bono Oct 2015 #148

It does because a Democratic candidate for President normally is a Democrat. DCBob Oct 2015 #151

Yes, but as I mentioned the Dem Party has moved so far rightward that being #13 cui bono Oct 2015 #152

It does matter to most Democrats... DCBob Oct 2015 #156

That doesn't make any sense and if you think you're insulting me with that stupid comment, cui bono Oct 2015 #157

"stupid"?? This kind of comment should not be allowed here. DCBob Oct 2015 #158

Haha.... cui bono Oct 2015 #159

Not funny at all... just pathetic on your part. DCBob Oct 2015 #160

Aw... I'll miss you and your 'socialist' cracks. cui bono Oct 2015 #161

This kind of comment should not be allowed here!1!! BeanMusical Oct 2015 #220

Obama was tied for First place as the Senate's most liberal voter, during his term. Utopian Leftist Oct 2015 #164

And Obama's legacy will be a progressive one arely staircase Oct 2015 #177

He also doubled the Wall Street indexes, Utopian Leftist Oct 2015 #246

Sanders supporter don't want here good things about Hillary lewebley3 Oct 2015 #201

The word is meaningless when she uses it and then turns around and publicly and happily calls Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #87

My point is that saying somthing doesn't make it true. betsuni Oct 2015 #97

football is boring! Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #109

You're comparing an opinion to something that can be backed up by policy positions and associations. cui bono Oct 2015 #149

***> sniff< **** HeartoftheMidwest Oct 2015 #197

( NOT snark, either. ) HeartoftheMidwest Oct 2015 #198

The word is meaningless when used by Skidmore Oct 2015 #103

The ONLY CANDIDATE who mentioned Black Lives Matter. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #6

Did you listen to the Dem debate? TheProgressive Oct 2015 #10

Sure, today. HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #11

And the FIRST candidate to mention Black Lives Matter. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #17

Ah, right. HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #21

So how does she measure up to Bernie and Martin when it comes to the issues?: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #25

... JaneyVee Oct 2015 #27

Nice try, I meant about the issues that matter to Campaign Zero. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #29

Here: JaneyVee Oct 2015 #34

Those are on the chart and she still comes up short. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #35

To true Hillary believers, Hillary never comes up short. MattSh Oct 2015 #76

There's a reason why they ignore that chart. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #77

Hillary's not behind. Everyone else is TOO FAR ahead! Scootaloo Oct 2015 #79

Was that her "all lives matter" moment? SwampG8r Oct 2015 #126

That would be Bernie. Sorry. Fearless Oct 2015 #16

Can you just stop posting meaningless crap to me. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #18

You could start with once. Fearless Oct 2015 #22

You said I was lying about Bernie arresting protesters... JaneyVee Oct 2015 #31

Jesus Christ, you're quoting libertyunionparty.org here? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #36

WSWS? No. Its written by Dave Sirota in IBT from October 13th 2015. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #39

Edited, the source is different but the claim is the same. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #40

Where did I link to wsws? JaneyVee Oct 2015 #47

Edited, you quoted an article from libertyunion.org beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #50

I gave the link: JaneyVee Oct 2015 #52

Sorry, got my links mixed up, that quote is from Vermont reporter Jim Condon. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #56

Can you link to the wsws article? JaneyVee Oct 2015 #54

How the fuck can Bernie arrest protesters? Or "order" them arrested? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #48

Aw, bmus ... senz Oct 2015 #55

That lie has been posted here for months and they still can't prove it. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #62

If it sounds bad for Bernie, they'll use it, true or not. senz Oct 2015 #65

I just respond to the most blatant lies now. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #67

Even if he did- so what? loyalsister Oct 2015 #116

Good point. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #124

In the debate, Bernie & Martin said "Black Live Matter." Hillary didn't. senz Oct 2015 #53

You just don't understand what counts and what doesn't count, delrem Oct 2015 #64

Yeah I always assume they want facts, senz Oct 2015 #69

Bernie also said Sandra Bland's name loyalsister Oct 2015 #119

who mentioned Black Lives Matter. AlbertCat Oct 2015 #58

She also said "All lives matter" at a black church in Ferguson. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #61

What you said, I heard that statement, and slapped my forehead. NT Bohunk68 Oct 2015 #81

Hillary eventually got it right. It took her until 2013 to support marriage equality. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #82

I wonder though, what would happen after an election? Bohunk68 Oct 2015 #85

Good points. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #86

That was what bothered me. Bohunk68 Oct 2015 #89

I don't believe she's changed. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #90

Well, all lives DO matter... AlbertCat Oct 2015 #106

Yes it does. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #107

Bullshit. You know that. cui bono Oct 2015 #153

Well, no THIRD WAY PROGRESSIVE, that's for certain. bravenak Oct 2015 #9

Sorry, I can't let you float a term like "Third Way Progressive" without challenging you. Bonobo Oct 2015 #19

You know I can do whatever I want to Bonobo. bravenak Oct 2015 #23

Yep, of course. Me too. nt Bonobo Oct 2015 #26

So do it then. Phlem Oct 2015 #66

I do what I want. bravenak Oct 2015 #74

Obviously. Phlem Oct 2015 #141

It was given to me this summer. bravenak Oct 2015 #170

Great. Burn it all down then. What are you waiting for? Phlem Oct 2015 #207

I think others burned it after the blm thingy. I am merely the arson investigator. bravenak Oct 2015 #208

OKEEE DOKEEE!? Phlem Oct 2015 #211

I have to take care of my two young black daughters and get my classes done. See ya! bravenak Oct 2015 #212

What the fuck do I care? You could give 2 shit's about me, Phlem Oct 2015 #214

I did not think you cared at all. Thank you for proving it. You told me about yours, I reciprocated. bravenak Oct 2015 #215

yep. OK then Phlem Oct 2015 #216

I don't think so chief. You said Phlem Oct 2015 #219

I've lived with an abusive republican too. My step dad. Committed suicide in front of my mom. bravenak Oct 2015 #221

Sure, cause you never said anything insinuation and insulting Phlem Oct 2015 #224

I am not insulting you. You are insulting me. bravenak Oct 2015 #226

Good job. PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #75

And I support bravenak's right Skidmore Oct 2015 #235

I would just let that stupidity hang in the air. cui bono Oct 2015 #155

Bravenak, you need to read this link: Scootaloo Oct 2015 #80

Is someone trying to create a meme that Clinton is to the left of Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #88

It was me. I like it. It explains so much. The color blindness. Not noticing whether you hire blacks bravenak Oct 2015 #96

This is perfect and beautiful and true. betsuni Oct 2015 #102

And so it enters the American lexicon... bravenak Oct 2015 #104

I'm reading your post but not following how it relates to calling Clinton a progressive. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #108

I never said she was. They are both to my right and barely acceptable. bravenak Oct 2015 #111

Calling him the 'flip side' of her Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #118

The only one people ever mention is Jesse Jackson. The only one. bravenak Oct 2015 #120

One always sounds stilted, and I use the 'you' too often myself. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #125

I know Bernie voted for that policy. bravenak Oct 2015 #127

Well, good luck. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #128

We won't. Nor will we be under his. That is really my main point. bravenak Oct 2015 #137

Not noticing the unwelcoming environment towards blacks. AlbertCat Oct 2015 #110

For african americans. bravenak Oct 2015 #115

from self described Sander's fans. AlbertCat Oct 2015 #130

He should address it with the journalists who asked him to. Send a message of tolerance. bravenak Oct 2015 #135

He should address it with the journalists who asked him to. AlbertCat Oct 2015 #144

Concerns are laughed off by the guilty parties. They pretend they do not remember bravenak Oct 2015 #169

You think I created a meme? bravenak Oct 2015 #92

I think you're trying really hard to make that "THIRD WAY PROGRESSIVE!!!" nonsense into a thing. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #134

It will work Scoot. I have a way with words. bravenak Oct 2015 #136

Well, you do that. I'm going to go re-read Flowers for Algernon. n/t Scootaloo Oct 2015 #176

I had to do this. Nobody treats me like that. Not without get back. They were so cocky. bravenak Oct 2015 #178

Okay. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #179

Results. I only wish I had been juror 1.... tishaLA Oct 2015 #232

Hey tisha.. I was just coming to post the results.. I was Juror #1.. I love # 5! Cha Oct 2015 #233

Thank you!!! bravenak Oct 2015 #234

Bernie called her out or her wretched voting azmom Oct 2015 #15

Clinton is a corporatist 1 percent'r... TheProgressive Oct 2015 #20

When she speaks it seems like she can't even azmom Oct 2015 #24

You know these attempts at defining Hillary are getting nowhere. I know they support upaloopa Oct 2015 #28

Not sure what you are saying... TheProgressive Oct 2015 #32

She is. moobu2 Oct 2015 #33

She has always been a progressive in spite of you saying she isn't. upaloopa Oct 2015 #37

Because the bankruptcy bill and the Iraq war are true progressive causes n/t eridani Oct 2015 #73

I can't wait until Hillary Clinton wins Iowa and New Hampshire. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #38

If that happens Robbins Oct 2015 #41

Are you saying Bernie supporters won't support Hillary Clinton when she's the nominee? BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #43

In event that she wins nomination Robbins Oct 2015 #44

LOL Skittles Oct 2015 #60

So that's a "no". Sanders supporters won't vote for Hillary when she's the nom. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #121

Me too! zappaman Oct 2015 #142

extremely childish Skittles Oct 2015 #59

Do what? Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #133

It's easy to stay out of trouble if you use the trash thread and ignore buttons. liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #46

That's fine. Just as long as DUers don't have to read post after post trashing Hillary Clinton, BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #122

Great. More cheerleading for war and making bankruptcy harder n/t eridani Oct 2015 #95

Would voting for every single war funding bill be considered by you as cheerleading for war? BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #123

Voting for generic appropriations bills always includes DOD funding eridani Oct 2015 #231

Hard to deny that Clinton Thespian2 Oct 2015 #49

The DNC DLC Third Way Establishment Is Apoplectic About A Bernie Presidency cantbeserious Oct 2015 #51

Yes. True. Fun, yet infuriating to see the pernicious subterfuge Populist_Prole Oct 2015 #70

Yet he is running as a Democrat, I thought. treestar Oct 2015 #99

Hillary is as much a economic progressive as I am the King of Kathmandu Bernblu Oct 2015 #57

saying you are a progressive does not make it so... AlbertCat Oct 2015 #63

Hillary Weather Vane Unknown Beatle Oct 2015 #68

K & R AzDar Oct 2015 #71

I bet Clinton will move us further forward than any candidate running. Hoyt Oct 2015 #72

To go forward is simply to travel in the facing direction, no matter what that direction is Scootaloo Oct 2015 #83

She certainly is when compared to most Democrats. DCBob Oct 2015 #84

Aw, come on. Everyone knows facts have a Hillary bias. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #172

Congratulations Scootaloo Oct 2015 #180

Nope. Hillary is not now nor has she ever been a progressive. 99Forever Oct 2015 #100

I can think of one exception: In 1993 as First Lady, she tried to get Universal Health Care for the Cal33 Oct 2015 #112

So did this guy, and I wouldn't call him a progressive: 99Forever Oct 2015 #114

Maybe this shows that Nixon of the 1960s wasn't as bad as the average Neo-con and Cal33 Oct 2015 #258

Or maybe it shows that having been on the correct side of one issue... 99Forever Oct 2015 #260

I think you're correct. Cal33 Oct 2015 #265

Universal, but still included the health insurance corporations. dreamnightwind Oct 2015 #165

Progressives do not support: FRACKING, THE TPP, THE XL PIPELINE, WALL ST. GREEDY THIEVES, in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #113

List the right of center Republicans currently serving in Congress emulatorloo Oct 2015 #129

I completely disagree. in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #138

She was too conservative for me in 08 and continues to be too conservative for me now. emulatorloo Oct 2015 #139

One Election - TBF Oct 2015 #131

BINGO! He'll win number 15 too to become the nominee. Then he'll win number 16 next November, 2016. in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #162

. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #132

One minute a self-described "moderate" and the next a "progressive" 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #146

lol -- where's that weathervane cartoon when we need it? senz Oct 2015 #150

Hillary is a proud Democrat who advocates for Democratic issues, she will continue to work for those Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #154

If nominated she won't say that Babel_17 Oct 2015 #163

I think of her as an app with switchable skins dreamnightwind Oct 2015 #166

Sorry, Hillary is a progressive: and She has been working leading progessives lewebley3 Oct 2015 #167

Far from it. But words like this apparently have no meaning anymore. n/t deutsey Oct 2015 #173

She WAS a self proclaimed Progressive for a week or so before backtracking to her "moderate" label. NorthCarolina Oct 2015 #174

Last night she claimed to be a 'Progressive' TheProgressive Oct 2015 #175

Nope, that she is certainly not! n/t sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #186

You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows... Ford_Prefect Oct 2015 #190

No, she isn't. Warpy Oct 2015 #194

+ 1,000,000,000 - What You Said !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #195

They voted 93% the same way, so if Hillary is no Progressive, neither is Bernie still_one Oct 2015 #203

It is the votes and ideals that differ that make the difference.. TheProgressive Oct 2015 #205

Yup. SoapBox Oct 2015 #210

I can understand the mental convenience of ignoring everything but the seven percent. LanternWaste Oct 2015 #252

I know you think your post is.... TheProgressive Oct 2015 #257

Well, Russ Feingold disagrees with you, and that's good enough for me. brooklynite Oct 2015 #209

What did Senator Feingold say? TheProgressive Oct 2015 #213

This was at a private dinner, so I'll keep his exact words privileged... brooklynite Oct 2015 #222

Oh please.... TheProgressive Oct 2015 #223

You're questioning my veracity? brooklynite Oct 2015 #225

I know nothing about you.... TheProgressive Oct 2015 #227

I'll be accused of "boasting", but since you apparently haven't heard this... brooklynite Oct 2015 #229

This could be true or not true... But if it is... TheProgressive Oct 2015 #240

Well, as to the first point... brooklynite Oct 2015 #242

We are past incremental changes making a difference... TheProgressive Oct 2015 #243

...and there's the cognitive dissonance... brooklynite Oct 2015 #244

Nice try... TheProgressive Oct 2015 #245

And my preference is to take "96%" of what you consider progressive... brooklynite Oct 2015 #247

I pretend to have an absolute knowledge of what a Progressive is and is not LanternWaste Oct 2015 #250

progressives! progressives! wherefore art thou progressives?! elana i am Oct 2015 #261

progress goes in many direrections olddots Oct 2015 #262